Ok I have seen enough of Smith he might make good cough drops but not a Jet Qb

[butterscotch]

1) Lets get Cousins get rid of the race car driver keep the blimp as a QB for the future just in-case.

Draft Saquon Barkley plus an OL

Get a pass rusher Draft

Get a CB draft or FA

See that was easy

I see smith as a topless dancer in a coffin.......just a big tease to win a few games but lose when it counts.....In short a loser that is 32.

Cousins gives us five years & the blimp is the one in ten qb for down the road.


Trading up has to much risk plus I don't think we will pick the right one lol

 

[jetgreen13]

i like cousins.. he can play & has put up big numbers with & without talent around him on offense..

he's going to get top dollar from someone.. & with the right regime, i can see him competing for some rings.. i don't believe the jets have the right regime.. certainly not at HC but cousins is young enough to outlast them.. so there's that..

signing smith & potentially drafting his replacement with the 6th pick would be pretty exciting for me too!!

 

[SackExchange]

i like cousins.. he can play & has put up big numbers with & without talent around him on offense..

he's going to get top dollar from someone.. & with the right regime, i can see him competing for some rings.. i don't believe the jets have the right regime.. certainly not at HC but cousins is young enough to outlast them.. so there's that..

signing smith & potentially drafting his replacement with the 6th pick would be pretty exciting for me too!!

And that is understandable. It fits your philosophy, even if it doesn't fit the Jets' philosophy. You want to see a new regime come in and go into win-now mode. Sign a bunch of big contract guys to fill holes, like Cousins or Smith, and look to compete right now.

It's perfectly valid to have that philosophy. It's not the one I hold, but I can understand it. In my view, the best way to get to the absolute top of the mountain is to do a slower, more deliberate build, to keep the youth movement going, and to establish the kind of stability the organization needs. I guess we differ in that I feel the team has followed your philosophy before, and it hasn't gotten us to the promised land yet. I don't think the Jets have truly done what they are doing now. That said, it's completely fair and understandable to be pushing your philosophy, even if I disagree with it.

 

[Bigmoe]

Well we,can see case in point what a team did going after a vet in Drew Brees. Instantly turned that team around and not short term.

I'm all in for Cousins

And it would instantly turn us into a contender with some good picks for a long run .

Donrt see what's wrong with that at all.

 

[jetgreen13]

And that is understandable. It fits your philosophy, even if it doesn't fit the Jets' philosophy. You want to see a new regime come in and go into win-now mode. Sign a bunch of big contract guys to fill holes, like Cousins or Smith, and look to compete right now.

It's perfectly valid to have that philosophy. It's not the one I hold, but I can understand it. In my view, the best way to get to the absolute top of the mountain is to do a slower, more deliberate build, to keep the youth movement going, and to establish the kind of stability the organization needs. I guess we differ in that I feel the team has followed your philosophy before, and it hasn't gotten us to the promised land yet. I don't think the Jets have truly done what they are doing now. That said, it's completely fair and understandable to be pushing your philosophy, even if I disagree with it.

if those guys are south of 28, at positions you need to be?? you bet..

 

[AFA2017]

Cousins I feel will cost us 5 years at $150 mil. I am not in for trading for Smith because of his age. I agree with Sack, lets bring in youth and build our team, even if that means trading up for a QB.

 

[TebowCan'tThrow]

No way would I want Smith. He has never won anything and is getting old. Cousins costs too much. I say just keep the youth movement going. This team isn't a QB away from a SB.

 

[isired]

Well we,can see case in point what a team did going after a vet in Drew Brees. Instantly turned that team around and not short term.

I'm all in for Cousins

And it would instantly turn us into a contender with some good picks for a long run .

Donrt see what's wrong with that at all.

I don't understand the logic here - he was 7-9 in Washington this year. You feel we have so much more talent to surround Cousins with that he goes from 7-9 in WAS to an instant contender here?

 

[SackExchange]

if those guys are south of 28, at positions you need to be?? you bet..

This is where the common ground is. I don't mind being more active in FA, but it has to be for guys who will be a part of the long rebuild, not for short term results.

 

[jetgreen13]

This is where the common ground is. I don't mind being more active in FA, but it has to be for guys who will be a part of the long rebuild, not for short term results.

if mccagnan is given the green light to fill the roster up with older FAs, there is little to no hope for this organization.. at least with the johnson boys in charge..

 

[butterscotch]

And that is understandable. It fits your philosophy, even if it doesn't fit the Jets' philosophy. You want to see a new regime come in and go into win-now mode. Sign a bunch of big contract guys to fill holes, like Cousins or Smith, and look to compete right now.

It's perfectly valid to have that philosophy. It's not the one I hold, but I can understand it. In my view, the best way to get to the absolute top of the mountain is to do a slower, more deliberate build, to keep the youth movement going, and to establish the kind of stability the organization needs. I guess we differ in that I feel the team has followed your philosophy before, and it hasn't gotten us to the promised land yet. I don't think the Jets have truly done what they are doing now. That said, it's completely fair and understandable to be pushing your philosophy, even if I disagree with it.

You see I will be happy with this too.

My feeling here is the man (Cousins) not the position (Teddy bear over troubled waters & Cough drop). Get a stud RB a few drafts for the ol & We could have a great team on top of that the Blimp is in the wings & gets a few years more to see what he has. Put there are many roads to the SB. Now can we do all this now lol maybe not but it is worth the risk. Smith just adds more of the same. Cousins gives us a chance now & for five years +. Bridgewater not sure?

Can big mac draft a top QB ??????? or Cousins........one deal is ???????? But if we need to pay tooooo much $$$$$$$ I say no

 

[AFA2017]

My only concerns with Mac is, he is not that good of judging talent. Sure he hit on his 2 top 6 picks. After that, he added bodies but not any top talent. Anderson was an after the draft pickup who excelled. QB's in the draft are hit and miss. Drafting Hackenberg was idiotic as there was much needed better talent out there. We are all arm chair GM's. I just feel that I could have drafted a better team than most of the GM's in the past 49 years with the Jets.

 

[butterscotch]

My only concerns with Mac is, he is not that good of judging talent. Sure he hit on his 2 top 6 picks. After that, he added bodies but not any top talent. Anderson was an after the draft pickup who excelled. QB's in the draft are hit and miss. Drafting Hackenberg was idiotic as there was much needed better talent out there. We are all arm chair GM's. I just feel that I could have drafted a better team than most of the GM's in the past 49 years with the Jets.

I agree that I am concerned on the jets having the right guy by the time their pick comes up & if so them picking the right one. But we shall see

 

[McJet]

What happens if the Redskins don't franchise Cousins but transition tags him. That would be less the Redskins would have to pay him if no one else signs him. If someone else does sign him to a contract,they'll have to give up a first rounder if Washington does not match. Does anyone here want Cousins at the expense of the #6 overall pick? i know i don't.

 

[NCgreen12]

What happens if the Redskins don't franchise Cousins but transition tags him. That would be less the Redskins would have to pay him if no one else signs him. If someone else does sign him to a contract,they'll have to give up a first rounder if Washington does not match. Does anyone here want Cousins at the expense of the #6 overall pick? i know i don't.

I don't think there is any compensation with the Transition tag. It lowers the cost to the Skins to 28 Million but it allows other teams to package a front loaded deal that might be too rich for the Redskins blood. Either way I don't think they receive anything for designating the transition tag if he signs elsewhere.

As much as I think Cousins is ready to move on I have a feeling the Skins make a good attempt and keep him in Washington.

 

[Bigmoe]

I don't understand the logic here - he was 7-9 in Washington this year. You feel we have so much more talent to surround Cousins with that he goes from 7-9 in WAS to an instant contender here?

Yea
Well let's see
The logic would be adding a top,QB ( some think yes others think no ) I think yes and I'm not going over his stats again.
As I stated use the picks "effectively "
If you belive the youth hype and the rebuild process it get an instant boost
Its a last to first league , it's been shown over the last few years
thats my logic

 

[TebowCan'tThrow]

I don't think the question is whether Cousins can play. The issue is what is he worth?? To me you can't cripple your franchise for a guy that has never won anything. Brady or Rodgers then give them what they want. Cousins is not even close to them. He wants to be top paid QB and I wouldn't pay him that.

 

[TonyFtLaud]

What happens if the Redskins don't franchise Cousins but transition tags him. That would be less the Redskins would have to pay him if no one else signs him. If someone else does sign him to a contract,they'll have to give up a first rounder if Washington does not match. Does anyone here want Cousins at the expense of the #6 overall pick? i know i don't.

The Redskins would be due no compensation if they use the transition tag. If they use the non exclusive tag and don't match, they would be due 2 first round picks, but wouldn't save any money if Cousins stays .
There's alot of misunderstanding regarding the franchise tag.

• An exclusive franchise tag means a team will pay that player no less than the average of the top five salaries at the player's position, or 120 percent of the player's previous salary, whichever is greater. The player is not allowed to negotiate with other teams.
• A nonexclusive franchise tag involves the same salary offer as an exclusive franchise tag, only the player can negotiate with other teams. The player's current team can match any offer sheet. If the old team declines to match the offer, it gets two first-round picks from the other team as compensation. This is the more commonly used franchise tag.
• By applying the transition tag, a team offers the player a salary that is the average of the top 10 salaries at his position. That player can negotiate with other teams. The player's original team has the right of first refusal to match any offer given to a transition-tagged player by another team. If the original team decides to retain the player, it must agree to the contract terms offered by the other team. If the original team decides not to match the offer and the player leaves, it receives nothing in compensation. A team can use the transition tag only if it hasn't used the franchise tag in a given offseason.

The transition tag comes with a 20% raise and would bump Cousins salary to $28.8 million in 2018.
I think Washington will try to get a long term deal done or else they will probably move on.

 

[jetgreen13]

I don't think the question is whether Cousins can play. The issue is what is he worth?? To me you can't cripple your franchise for a guy that has never won anything. Brady or Rodgers then give them what they want. Cousins is not even close to them. He wants to be top paid QB and I wouldn't pay him that.

a lot..

just south of 30.. proven 4,000 yard guy.. high volume TD pass guy who is not an interception machine..

 

[TebowCan'tThrow]

a lot..

just south of 30.. proven 4,000 yard guy.. high volume TD pass guy who is not an interception machine..

My issue is the one stat that matters is wins and his record is 26-30-1 as a starter. Sorry that is not good enough for top dollar. He never seems to win a big game.