Report: Harvin Informs Jets he will not by taking Pay Cut

[Mainejet]

I have to agree with old#15.

The players may have loved Rex, but they never had to fear much in the way of consequences from him. He had their back to a fault. Sure they loved him, because there was little to no accountability.

They never had to fear much in the way of consequences? What about Sherry Rhodes getting benched for deliberately pu$$y footing his play and avoiding contact? What about Rex benching Vlad Ducasse in 2013 when it was clear his play was terrible and he wasn't getting better. What about Rex telling the press that Quinton Coples thought he was above playing with the 2nd and 3rd string in a preseason game? What about benching the Louisville slugger just this last season. Now maybe you question how harsh the punishment was? Just the same, it clearly worked to the betterment of the team.

 

[Kentucky Jet]

so cut him! He ain't worth $10 mil and a fourth round pick in any universe. Cut his ass tomorrow and whomever signs him for that much money is a idiot. I was hoping we could cut him and with no real interest he would resign with the jets for $5-6 mil max but f#$k him! Let the packers and ne or whomever fight over him. Cobb is definitely better, a true wr and worth more money. Let's sign cobb, give him the $10 mil! Well not that much but you get my point.

agreed!

 

[ucrenegade]

They never had to fear much in the way of consequences? What about Sherry Rhodes getting benched for deliberately pu$$y footing his play and avoiding contact? What about Rex benching Vlad Ducasse in 2013 when it was clear his play was terrible and he wasn't getting better. What about Rex telling the press that Quinton Coples thought he was above playing with the 2nd and 3rd string in a preseason game? What about benching the Louisville slugger just this last season. Now maybe you question how harsh the punishment was? Just the same, it clearly worked to the betterment of the team.

rex played favorites you can't deny that.

 

[NickSINYC]

I have to agree with old#15.

The players may have loved Rex, but they never had to fear much in the way of consequences from him. He had their back to a fault. Sure they loved him, because there was little to no accountability.

Could not agree more

 

[jetfandreamer]

I think the whole equation is skewed because of the inadequacy of the QB play..in a perfect world...IE TOM BRADY..maybe he is worth 10 million...but on the Jets he is not at this time unless the QB play improves....plus Idzik made this deal with the assumption he was still going to be here...........I don't know..the Jets have so much cap room..I would actually keep him for this year...and see what Gailey can do with him and GENO/(unnamed QB)....he might not be worth the money..but at this point in time..I think the real question..is can the player they get at the 4th round pick....worth what this kid can give you potentially.....either way you lose a pick..maybe somewhere in the draft process you make a trade either big or small to get another pick in the draft process....its not like they are up against the cap wall....so I say unless he is a real malcontent..keep him...

Give me Decker/Kerley/harvin/Cooper or White Amaro.....with Spiller..Ivory..and an upgrade at OG with even a small development from Geno or whoever..and a revamped CB system through free agency..and I will take my chances

FROM JOE CAPROSO from TURN ON JETS 12 Pack

2. Without over complicating the Percy Harvin situation: The Jets lack talent. Harvin is very talented. The Jets have enough space to pay him on his current contract without it hurting them short or long term. Is Harvin a 10 million dollar receiver? On a league wide comparison, absolutely not. Can the talent starved, excessively cap rich Jets comfortably get away with paying him 10 million next year? Absolutely. They also aren’t going to get a comparable talent in the fourth round and may end up with more overall picks if they trade back at some point anyway.

 

[BlindsideD'Brick]

FROM JOE CAPROSO from TURN ON JETS 12 Pack

2. Without over complicating the Percy Harvin situation: The Jets lack talent. Harvin is very talented. The Jets have enough space to pay him on his current contract without it hurting them short or long term. Is Harvin a 10 million dollar receiver? On a league wide comparison, absolutely not. Can the talent starved, excessively cap rich Jets comfortably get away with paying him 10 million next year? Absolutely. They also aren’t going to get a comparable talent in the fourth round and may end up with more overall picks if they trade back at some point anyway.

The Jets are a better team with Harvin. I don't think anyone's questioning that. But he's also not a #1 WR that the Jets really need, which they'd have with Cooper and probably White in the draft. Is a gadget, slot-type WR worth 10 million? Yes, the cap space is fat this year, and that makes it easier to keep him this season. But that's a lotta cabbage to pay a guy like Harvin, who also has a little bit of diva history.

 

[Pointdexter]

FROM JOE CAPROSO from TURN ON JETS 12 Pack

2. Without over complicating the Percy Harvin situation: The Jets lack talent. Harvin is very talented. The Jets have enough space to pay him on his current contract without it hurting them short or long term. Is Harvin a 10 million dollar receiver? On a league wide comparison, absolutely not. Can the talent starved, excessively cap rich Jets comfortably get away with paying him 10 million next year? Absolutely. They also aren’t going to get a comparable talent in the fourth round and may end up with more overall picks if they trade back at some point anyway.

What Caproso is missing is this: While it is true the Jets can afford to take on another year of Harvin at 10 million, and Harvin is almost assuredly going to be a better player than what we could find in the 4th round of the draft, the real question is what happens AFTER next season???

We won't continue to pay Harvin 10+ million year after year. So essentially we are talking about renting Harvin for one more season, no? What good is that? Are we a super bowl contender next year? And, most importantly, whoever we could select in round 4 would be with the organization for the next 5+ years, not just one. So what is more important? Harvin for one more year of non super bowl contention or the player in the 4th round that could be one of the pieces of the puzzle for many years to come?

And lastly, we haven't even identified the money issue. So we could take the money for Harvin and give it to someone like Orlando Franklin, who again will sign a long term deal with us and commit to being part of our future. In the end, I will take a 10 million dollar valued FA signed long term, and a 4th round pick who will grow with this franchise, over one more year of renting Percy Harvin.

 

[ucrenegade]

like many have said before harvin is only good if we had a QB.

 

[Superman55]

Percy Harvin - WR - Jets
The Jets are hoping to resolve Percy Harvin's contract situation before March 19.
If Harvin is still on the team by March 19, New York would owe Seattle a fourth-round draft pick. If he's gone, the Jets would only be on the hook for a sixth-rounder. New York is hoping to reduce Harvin's salary figure for next season, but both sides see that as an unlikely outcome. Harvin recorded 350 receiving yards in eight games after his midseason trade to New York.

 

[TexasJetPilot]

Just a guess, but maybe the Jets prepared on Harvin leaving by keeping Kerley just in case. He signed a 4 year extension in October if I remember correctly.

 

[Superman55]

Just a guess, but maybe the Jets prepared on Harvin leaving by keeping Kerley just in case. He signed a 4 year extension in October if I remember correctly.

Jets traded for Harvin on 10/18 and signed Kerley to an extension on 10/22 and almost everyone involved in both moves is gone...not sure this regime is even factoring that in, other than harvin is better at kerley's position than he is but kerley is cheaper.

Kerley kind of stunk last year...I hope we dont see a sharp decline.

 

[TexasJetPilot]

Kerley stunk? I'm starting to think I'm in a forum with Jet "fans" who watch every other game and try to act as if they saw the whole season. To say Kerley stunk last year is truely ignorant. I don't understand some Jet fans.

 

[Superman55]

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Kerley stunk? I'm starting to think I'm in a forum with Jet "fans" who watch every other game and try to act as if they saw the whole season. To say Kerley stunk last year is truely ignorant. I don't understand some Jet fans.

I'm starting to think the same thing about 1 fan.

Kerley last year with the same OC and QB had lower receptions, yards, yards per catch, and TDS in 16 games than he had the year before in 12 games....that's a sucky year.

 

[ucrenegade]

kerley was def worse last year than he has been in a long while. I expect a rejuvenation with gailey

 

[TexasJetPilot]

I watch games not stats. You can down Jets players if you want, I don't. He wouldn't have gotten an extension if the organization thought he "stunk" but to each his own. From what I saw he was decent. I shouldn't have to mention Geno's accuracy or eye for open receievers and how that can affect any given receivers stats. The bottom line is that some people obviously have different views on what a bad player is. Not every good receiver has 800-1000 yard seasons. Especially as a slot.

 

[TexasJetPilot]

Ooops I almost forgot..."IMO" hahaha

 

[ucrenegade]

well to be fair our organization haven't been the sharpest tools in the shed so your argument if he wasn't good he wouldn't have gotten a extension is moot but your right he could have been open alot and geno failed to get him the ball with that being said i still think he had a down year.

 

[maxmet]

The only argument for keeping harvin is if we otherwise cant find ways to spend the $$ productively.

I would rather sign 5 guys who have upside at 2 mill each. Harvin's market value is almost surely less than the 10 million. And we need to pay him 10 million plus "spend" the difference between a 4th and a 6th to keep him.

If we cant find one guy worth 10 mill to bring in, get two or three guys with promise at 3 or 4 mill each rather than Harvin.

 

[cysporsche]

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I'm starting to think the same thing about 1 fan.

Kerley last year with the same OC and QB had lower receptions, yards, yards per catch, and TDS in 16 games than he had the year before in 12 games....that's a sucky year.

Jet brothers, name calling is not going to answer your debate, so let me, Kerley most defiantly had a down season last year. I was very concerned why we gave him a 4 year exstention after we just got Harvin in a trade of desperation. Harvin is a slot guy not a true #1 WR. We need White or Cooper regardless what we do with Harvin. But if I'm a betting Man, I'd say that he will not take a pay cut and he's released by the 19th.

Go Jets...Cyborg

 

[TexasJetPilot]

Jet brothers, name calling is not going to answer your debate, so let me, Kerley most defiantly had a down season last year. I was very concerned why we gave him a 4 year exstention after we just got Harvin in a trade of desperation. Harvin is a slot guy not a true #1 WR. We need White or Cooper regardless what we do with Harvin. But if I'm a betting Man, I'd say that he will not take a pay cut and he's released by the 19th.

Go Jets...Cyborg

Fair enough. That's how you debate.