Report: Jets Have “little or no faith” in Geno Smith

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Mainejet

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By Glenn Naughton

As the New York Jets contract saga continues to drag out with quarterback Ryan Fitzpatrick, several reports have surfaced stating Jets GM Mike Maccagnan has begun exploring multiple options to add a veteran signal caller, and if Jason Cole of bleacher report is accurate, we know exactly why, if we hadn’t figured it out already.

According to Cole, there is “little or no faith within the organization” regarding Geno Smith’s future as a starter. For the handful of fans still hoping to see Smith under center, even if one were to question Cole’s information, the statement itself has plenty of merit based on how the Jets handled Smith last season.

The team named Smith their starter when camp opened up, but we’ll never know just how long his leash was going to be under a new regime with no loyalty to the former John Idzik draft choice.

Had Smith faltered in the early going, a week five bye would have given the team the perfect opportunity to turn the offense over to Fitzpatrick who knew Chan Gailey’s play book from their days together in Buffalo. As it turns out, Smith’s well documented locker room run-in with linebacker IK Enemkpali put Fitzpatrick under center before the Jets’ first pre-season game.

In the days following Smith’s altercation, when it was still believed that he would be out for up to 10 weeks, Head Coach Todd Bowles was asked about the likelihood of Smith getting the starting job back upon returning. Honest in his reply, Bowles said Smith would not get the job back if the Jets were rolling along at “4, 5, 6, 7-0”. No surprise there, as no head coach would pull his starting QB after such a torrid start. However, the time for Bowles to make a decision came far sooner than anyone had anticipated, as the Jets, sitting at just 2-0, learned that Smith had been medically cleared to get back under center.

Even having beaten only the lowly Cleveland Browns, and the Indianapolis Colts on short rest, Bowles had seen enough from Fitzpatrick and Smith to keep Geno watching from the sidelines while Fitzpatrick remained his starter. Bowles’ hypothetical scenario only told us what he would do from week 4 and beyond. In reality, we saw that he needed only 2 weeks to be swayed. Not a ringing endorsement of Smith.

Free agent quarterback Ryan FItzpatrick may have backed himself into a contractual corner.
A hand injury that required surgery wasn’t enough to land Ryan Fitzpatrick on the bench.

Even five weeks later, when Fitzpatrick suffered an injury to his thumb on his non-throwing hand that would require surgery, the Jets opted to have Fitzpatrick fit with a custom-made glove that would keep him on the field, rather than allowing for immediate surgery or time to the injury to improve.

The injury took place in a week 8 loss to the Raiders that saw Fitzpatrick, off to a hot start that day, completing four of his first five pass attempts, land awkwardly, injuring his left thumb on an ugly slide following a 12 yard scramble.

Smith would come in for what would be his only action of the season and while his stat line was respectable (27-42 265 yards 2 TD 1 INT), his first touchdown drive didn’t occur until the Jets were already down 28-6, and he repeated many of the same mistakes he was given a pass for by so many fans through his first two seasons, chalking it up to youth and inexperience.

Heading in to the contest, Fitzpatrick had been sacked a league-low 4 times in six games behind a shaky offensive line that his quick release and decision-making had been able to cover up for more often than not.

In his relief appearance, Smith was sacked three times in the second half alone, failing to display poise under pressure and opting to take a sack or run out of bounds rather than throw the ball away when the heat was on. It was a discouraging development even for the most optimistic fan who’d hoped to see Smith display even moderate pocket awareness after spending two seasons as a starter and working with Gailey for months.

With Fitzpatrick injured, and the lowly Jacksonville Jaguars up next on the schedule, Bowles wouldn’t have a better opportunity to get a

peek at Smith on the field after a full week of practice with the starters and one of the league’s worst defenses on tap. Even still, Bowles sent Geno back to the bench and chose to go with the injured Fitzpatrick who was reportedly unable to fully grip the football from under center due to the ligament damage in his thumb.

As if the in-season handing of Smith wasn’t a clear enough signal, immediately following the season, knowing Fitzpatrick was due to hit free agency and with Smith still under contract, Bowles handed the starting job to Fitzpatrick. There would be no competition, no controversy and no questions. The job belonged to Fitzpatrick.

Making matters worse for Smith, Bowles was asked about the progress of rookie QB Bryce Petty, to which he said Petty showed enough as a rookie to be given and opportunity to earn the number two job next season.

For those of you keeping score at home, Bowles stuck with Fitzpatrick after just two weeks when Smith was cleared to return, then stuck with him again after suffering an injury and a defensive doormat on the schedule that would have been an ideal scenario to get a good look at Smith.

Then of course, he handed the starting job to Fitzpatrick, while giving Petty a chance to earn the back-up role. Should that turn out to be the case, it would leave Smith of course as the Jets number 3 quarterback. A dramatic plunge for a player who was named the starter just 8 months earlier.

So with the team leaving the door open for Smith to be demoted all the way to its number three QB, can anyone honestly question the level of commitment or faith the organization has toward Smith at this point? Well, of course you could, but it just wouldn’t make sense.
 
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Mainejet

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I think this report pretty much sets things straight. Geno is a dead man walking. That should've been obvious based on prior events. But for those still questioning? You might as well stop. It's fairly obvious Mac wants to cleanse himself of Geno ASAP.
 

butterscotch

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Adam & Eve & Fitz & the Jets....... there seems no other place for them to go. They should be docking soon enough.
 
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Mainejet

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I was just watching NFLHQ on NFL network. They brought on Evan Roberts from WFAN. He was asked specifically if a deal would be made between the Jets and Fitz anytime soon.

He said he wasn't sure if a deal would be done soon, but he did figure the Jets will eventually sign Fitz because he said "THEY NEED EACH OTHER". This really is what I've been saying and I'm happy to see people acknowledging it.

He was asked if there any hard feelings between the two parties. Roberts mentioned that Fitz is probably bitter about the Jets insulting offer, but did say if/when he gets signed he won't care. He'll just be happy to be playing with guys like Marshall, Decker, Forte, and Powell.

He was then asked about going into the season with Geno Smith as the starter. He laid out what we already knew. He said Jets management should NOT be thinking Geno as the starter. He said the Jets are a WIN NOW team and they are not ready to have a guy like Geno throwing them the ball.

They also asked about Bryce Petty. They asked, "Why isn't anyone hearing more about Petty?". Roberts said it's because the Jets do NOT believe that is ready to contribute in 2016. They do believe in him and he could see his time next year or 2018, but right now they know he needs more grooming.
 

butterscotch

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I think Roberts says what many feel. But again if If If TB wanted Geno I would back him...I did say IF.
 

soj

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Jet Fanatics
I think this report pretty much sets things straight. Geno is a dead man walking. That should've been obvious based on prior events. But for those still questioning? You might as well stop. It's fairly obvious Mac wants to cleanse himself of Geno ASAP.

Agree... and I think some of us have stated that in different posts...anyway it is not a surprise to this writer maybe only to gobots.
 

mydogisajetsfan

Pro Bowl 1st Team
Jet Fanatics
By Glenn Naughton

As the New York Jets contract saga continues to drag out with quarterback Ryan Fitzpatrick, several reports have surfaced stating Jets GM Mike Maccagnan has begun exploring multiple options to add a veteran signal caller, and if Jason Cole of bleacher report is accurate, we know exactly why, if we hadn’t figured it out already.

According to Cole, there is “little or no faith within the organization” regarding Geno Smith’s future as a starter. For the handful of fans still hoping to see Smith under center, even if one were to question Cole’s information, the statement itself has plenty of merit based on how the Jets handled Smith last season.

The team named Smith their starter when camp opened up, but we’ll never know just how long his leash was going to be under a new regime with no loyalty to the former John Idzik draft choice.

Had Smith faltered in the early going, a week five bye would have given the team the perfect opportunity to turn the offense over to Fitzpatrick who knew Chan Gailey’s play book from their days together in Buffalo. As it turns out, Smith’s well documented locker room run-in with linebacker IK Enemkpali put Fitzpatrick under center before the Jets’ first pre-season game.

In the days following Smith’s altercation, when it was still believed that he would be out for up to 10 weeks, Head Coach Todd Bowles was asked about the likelihood of Smith getting the starting job back upon returning. Honest in his reply, Bowles said Smith would not get the job back if the Jets were rolling along at “4, 5, 6, 7-0”. No surprise there, as no head coach would pull his starting QB after such a torrid start. However, the time for Bowles to make a decision came far sooner than anyone had anticipated, as the Jets, sitting at just 2-0, learned that Smith had been medically cleared to get back under center.

Even having beaten only the lowly Cleveland Browns, and the Indianapolis Colts on short rest, Bowles had seen enough from Fitzpatrick and Smith to keep Geno watching from the sidelines while Fitzpatrick remained his starter. Bowles’ hypothetical scenario only told us what he would do from week 4 and beyond. In reality, we saw that he needed only 2 weeks to be swayed. Not a ringing endorsement of Smith.

Free agent quarterback Ryan FItzpatrick may have backed himself into a contractual corner.
A hand injury that required surgery wasn’t enough to land Ryan Fitzpatrick on the bench.

Even five weeks later, when Fitzpatrick suffered an injury to his thumb on his non-throwing hand that would require surgery, the Jets opted to have Fitzpatrick fit with a custom-made glove that would keep him on the field, rather than allowing for immediate surgery or time to the injury to improve.

The injury took place in a week 8 loss to the Raiders that saw Fitzpatrick, off to a hot start that day, completing four of his first five pass attempts, land awkwardly, injuring his left thumb on an ugly slide following a 12 yard scramble.

Smith would come in for what would be his only action of the season and while his stat line was respectable (27-42 265 yards 2 TD 1 INT), his first touchdown drive didn’t occur until the Jets were already down 28-6, and he repeated many of the same mistakes he was given a pass for by so many fans through his first two seasons, chalking it up to youth and inexperience.

Heading in to the contest, Fitzpatrick had been sacked a league-low 4 times in six games behind a shaky offensive line that his quick release and decision-making had been able to cover up for more often than not.

In his relief appearance, Smith was sacked three times in the second half alone, failing to display poise under pressure and opting to take a sack or run out of bounds rather than throw the ball away when the heat was on. It was a discouraging development even for the most optimistic fan who’d hoped to see Smith display even moderate pocket awareness after spending two seasons as a starter and working with Gailey for months.

With Fitzpatrick injured, and the lowly Jacksonville Jaguars up next on the schedule, Bowles wouldn’t have a better opportunity to get a

peek at Smith on the field after a full week of practice with the starters and one of the league’s worst defenses on tap. Even still, Bowles sent Geno back to the bench and chose to go with the injured Fitzpatrick who was reportedly unable to fully grip the football from under center due to the ligament damage in his thumb.

As if the in-season handing of Smith wasn’t a clear enough signal, immediately following the season, knowing Fitzpatrick was due to hit free agency and with Smith still under contract, Bowles handed the starting job to Fitzpatrick. There would be no competition, no controversy and no questions. The job belonged to Fitzpatrick.

Making matters worse for Smith, Bowles was asked about the progress of rookie QB Bryce Petty, to which he said Petty showed enough as a rookie to be given and opportunity to earn the number two job next season.

For those of you keeping score at home, Bowles stuck with Fitzpatrick after just two weeks when Smith was cleared to return, then stuck with him again after suffering an injury and a defensive doormat on the schedule that would have been an ideal scenario to get a good look at Smith.

Then of course, he handed the starting job to Fitzpatrick, while giving Petty a chance to earn the back-up role. Should that turn out to be the case, it would leave Smith of course as the Jets number 3 quarterback. A dramatic plunge for a player who was named the starter just 8 months earlier.

So with the team leaving the door open for Smith to be demoted all the way to its number three QB, can anyone honestly question the level of commitment or faith the organization has toward Smith at this point? Well, of course you could, but it just wouldn’t make sense.

Sounds like a non-story to me. And a long one at that. Is there any new ground broken here? The game-by-game scenario about last year notwithstanding there's nothing new here.

A story about nothing.
 

usapaw

Rookie
Jet Fanatics
Sounds like a non-story to me. And a long one at that. Is there any new ground broken here? The game-by-game scenario about last year notwithstanding there's nothing new here.

A story about nothing.

+1. Nothing new here but old stories. I never saw much in Geno but for the money we would be idiots to cut him loose.
 
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