Ryan Fitzpatrick Has a New Best Friend

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Jets QB Ryan Fitzpatrick has a new best friend -- a potentially elite defense


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Rich Cimini, ESPN Staff Writer

The Sunday notes -- a look at what's going on around the New York Jets:

1. A big D for Ryan F: Ryan Fitzpatrick has experienced a lot in his 10-year career, but he's never played on a team with a top-1o defense (based on yards allowed). His five previous teams ranked anywhere from 12th (Cincinnati Bengals, 2008) to 26th (Buffalo Bills, 2011). Truth be told, he played with some rotten defenses during his three-year run in Buffalo. That makes a huge difference for a quarterback, knowing you have to score a lot to win because the defense can't be trusted. If you're a Jets fan, trying to rally around Fitzpatrick as the season approaches, this is reason for optimism. Their shaky start notwithstanding, the Jets should have a top-10 defense, easing the pressure on Fitzpatrick. He can appreciate that.

"Sometimes I've fallen into that trap, trying to do too much," Fitzpatrick told me. "As I've grown the last few years, I've become better at that, playing within myself."

Fitzpatrick gave a lot of credit to his previous head coach and offensive coordinator, Bill O'Brien and George Godsey of the Houston Texans. Consider this compliment: "I probably learned more about football last year than I had the rest of my career in a single season in terms of being able to see the game from a different angle." That's high praise, considering Fitzpatrick spent three years in Buffalo with his current coordinator, Chan Gailey, a coach he admires.

The Texans had a solid defense last year (16th in yards, seventh in points allowed), and Fitzpatrick finished with a career-high 95.3 passer rating. Coincidence? If you're a Jets fan, you hope not.


Ryan Fitzpatrick admitted to doing too much in the past when he's played on teams with poor defenses. Al Bello/Getty Images
2. Traveling men: Fitzpatrick and newly-signed quarterback Matt Flynn have spent their careers crisscrossing the NFL. Each quarterback has been employed by six different teams. Fitzpatrick is 32, Flynn 30, so there's still time to touch 'em all. They have something else in common: They're two of only eight active players to throw six touchdown passes in a game.

3. Thinking like a QB: Eric Decker is one of the most cerebral wide receivers you'll find in the NFL. He's so into the X's and O's that he likes to sit in quarterback meetings during lunch or whenever he gets a break at the facility. He did it in Denver, where the big guy in the room was Peyton Manning. Decker told me, "I've always tried to do that, because I think it's the smartest position on the field. If you can see the game through the quarterback's eyes, it gives you an advantage as far as reading defenses."

Decker has been impressed by the manner in which Fitzpatrick conducts himself in the meetings. He said it's not unusual to see Fitzpatrick quiz the other quarterbacks on the specifics of a particular play call -- the protection schemes, the sight adjustments, hot reads, etc. Decker said, "He prepares like every play is game-like." It reminds him of Manning's famously meticulous preparation. That can't be a bad thing.

4. Geno back to work (sort of): Injured quarterback Geno Smith watched Friday night's game from a luxury box at MetLife Stadium. He probably would've preferred to be with the team, but coach Todd Bowles has a rule: No injured players on the sideline. It's a safety reason. Presumably, Smith will be cleared by doctors to return to the facility on a full-time basis, allowing him to attend meetings. He's still at least a week away before he starts light physical activity, per Bowles.

It's interesting: Smith's broken jaw, courtesy of IK Enemkpali, has revived some of the criticisms that dogged him before the 2013 draft, with talent evaluators questioning his leadership. One personnel executive said the Jets are "better off" with Fitzpatrick than Smith. Folks around the league noticed that no one on the team defended Smith in the immediate aftermath of the altercation. Brandon Marshall did, but it took him a week to step up.

5. Tight end in a tight spot: One player on the (moderately) hot seat is Jace Amaro, who has a lot to prove after a so-so rookie season. It raised eyebrows when he was listed as the No. 3 tight end on the first official depth chart. I've heard the organization has "mixed" feelings about Amaro, according to a league source. Remember, this is a new regime; Amaro is a holdover from the previous administration. I'm not saying they're going to unload the guy -- he could miss the preseason with a sprained shoulder -- but it'll be worth watching. The same goes for wide receiver Jeremy Kerley, who has lost playing time to Quincy Enunwa. I know for a fact that teams are paying attention to the Kerley situation.

6. Motley crew: So let's catch up with the 2013 draft. The first pick (Dee Milliner) is injured yet again; the second pick (Sheldon Richardson) is facing a suspension; the third pick (Smith) got punched out by a teammate; the fourth pick (Brian Winters) can't crack the starting lineup; and the fifth pick (Oday Aboushi) is facing a suspension ... if he doesn't get cut first. Rex Ryan's A-plus grade for the draft, which he declared at the end of the '13 season in an obvious suck-up to then-general manager John Idzik, seems laughable now.

7. From heady moment to a headache: Things change quickly in the NFL. On Wednesday, rookie safety Durell Eskridge was talking excitedly about the prospect of seeing his boyhood friend, Devonta Freeman, at Friday night's game. He knew Freeman wouldn't play -- the Atlanta Falcons' running back is recovering from an injury -- but he said it was a lifelong dream for them to be together in an NFL stadium. They share a remarkable story. Eskridge also was eager to face his old Syracuse teammate, Jerome Smith. That meeting didn't go well. Eskridge came up to tackle Smith, showing no fear against the 226-pound running back, and he wound up sustaining a concussion. There's nothing worse for an undrafted free agent than an injury. You can't make the club in the tub, as they say. Eskridge began camp as a long shot; now he could be a longer shot. But, hey, he has overcome greater hardships in life.

8. Miles gets a leg up: The happiest player in the postgame locker room probably was safety Rontez Miles, who scored on a 57-yard fumble recovery. In fact, he saved the ball and had it in his locker. He's come a long way. Late last season, he underwent emergency surgery because he developed compartment syndrome, a dangerous build-up of pressure in his lower right leg. If it hadn't been discovered so quickly, it might have resulted in amputation. Now he has a legitimate chance to make the roster. Speaking of his touchdown, Miles said, "Man, it felt amazing, man. I'm still trying to grasp it."

9. Four! It looks like the Jets will carry four quarterbacks on the 53-man roster -- Fitzpatrick, Flynn, Smith and rookie Bryce Petty, who made nice strides in his second outing. Some teams keep only two quarterbacks. Obviously, it will have a trickle-down effect, leaving them short in a couple of areas. It may limit them to only five wide receivers, which will make for some tough decisions. This will take some creative roster management by general manager Mike Maccagnan.

10. Tick, tick, tick...: It's Aug. 23 and Muhammad Wilkerson still doesn't have a new contract. His self-imposed deadline is Week 1, which means it's 21 days and counting.
 
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I almost hate giving Cimini a compliment, but that was a good read.

Cimini has mellowed a bit since he's been away from the NYDN. Still can be a snarky jerk at times, but the king of jerks clearly goes to Mehta now
 
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I really don't believe Fitz will be able to take advantage of this defense.

First of all, the Jets are really only asking Fitz to play as well as Mark Sanchez in his best season. If he does that, the Jets can go 10-6 this season and secure a wildcard spot.

But Fitz has a much weaker arm than Sanchez and I somehow doubt he could even have as much success as Sanchez did. He's just not a very good QB.
 
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So you just ignore any success that he has had in his career? Maybe if you look at some of the good you could translate how he could do well here. Offenses of today are built for QB's who can stand in the pocket and complete 60% of his passes to the weapons around him, and not turn the ball over or take big sacks. Alex Smith can't get the ball downfield, can't get the his receivers the ball in the end zone, but he completes a high percentage of passes, and takes care of the ball....add in a run game and defense that pressures the a QB and the Chiefs are playoff contenders.
 

OCCH

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I really don't believe Fitz will be able to take advantage of this defense.

First of all, the Jets are really only asking Fitz to play as well as Mark Sanchez in his best season. If he does that, the Jets can go 10-6 this season and secure a wildcard spot.

But Fitz has a much weaker arm than Sanchez and I somehow doubt he could even have as much success as Sanchez did. He's just not a very good QB.

I love how Sanchez went from being the worst QB in NFL history to a player who is better than someone who has lasted 10 years in the league.

If we're counting on Fitz from a physical standpoint, we're gonna be disappointed. We need someone who can make mature decisions from under center, and if he can't do that better than Sanchez (or Geno) then he never would have lasted this long in the first place . . .
 

mykcuz

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I love how Sanchez went from being the worst QB in NFL history to a player who is better than someone who has lasted 10 years in the league.

If we're counting on Fitz from a physical standpoint, we're gonna be disappointed. We need someone who can make mature decisions from under center, and if he can't do that better than Sanchez (or Geno) then he never would have lasted this long in the first place . . .
I agree, Fitz is certainly a serviceable qb that won't embarrass himself. But nothing is guaranteed.

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mykcuz

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I really don't believe Fitz will be able to take advantage of this defense.

First of all, the Jets are really only asking Fitz to play as well as Mark Sanchez in his best season. If he does that, the Jets can go 10-6 this season and secure a wildcard spot.

But Fitz has a much weaker arm than Sanchez and I somehow doubt he could even have as much success as Sanchez did. He's just not a very good QB.
It bothers me that you completely dismiss Fitz based on something as general as"he's just not very good" he had a 95 qbr last year before breaking his leg. It was the first time in his 10 year career he had a defense better than 22nd or any kind of offense to run.

If we get last year's performance minus a10%drop off due to age and injury, he would be the best jet qb in a decade.

He's not our future, but for a team that hasn't had a franchise qb since the 60's, he should be a welcomed upgrade. Everyone knows we need to find a legitimate qb for the future, but there's a reason that only 10 or 12 teams out of 32, think they have that guy. They are the single most difficult thing to find and get right in the nfl.

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Mainejet

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I love how Sanchez went from being the worst QB in NFL history to a player who is better than someone who has lasted 10 years in the league.

If we're counting on Fitz from a physical standpoint, we're gonna be disappointed. We need someone who can make mature decisions from under center, and if he can't do that better than Sanchez (or Geno) then he never would have lasted this long in the first place . . .

Listen, Mark Sanchez has a decent arm, Ryan Fitzpatrick has seriously diminishing arm strength. Not saying either one of them are any good, they both suck. Sanchez was never the worst QB in NFL history, Ryan Leaf was. But Sanchez was terrible, no doubt.

Fitz was probably better at some point in his career, but it certainly doesn't appear to be now. What? Do you think Fitz is so great? That's actually absurd if you do.
 
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It bothers me that you completely dismiss Fitz based on something as general as"he's just not very good" he had a 95 qbr last year before breaking his leg. It was the first time in his 10 year career he had a defense better than 22nd or any kind of offense to run.

If we get last year's performance minus a10%drop off due to age and injury, he would be the best jet qb in a decade.

He's not our future, but for a team that hasn't had a franchise qb since the 60's, he should be a welcomed upgrade. Everyone knows we need to find a legitimate qb for the future, but there's a reason that only 10 or 12 teams out of 32, think they have that guy. They are the single most difficult thing to find and get right in the nfl.

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Listen, I'm happy you have such optimism although I do not share the same sentiments. You're desperately trying to equate Ryan Fitz Patrick into a winning QB. Well, he's NOT, and he's NEVER been.
 

BlindsideD'Brick

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It bothers me that you completely dismiss Fitz based on something as general as"he's just not very good" he had a 95 qbr last year before breaking his leg. It was the first time in his 10 year career he had a defense better than 22nd or any kind of offense to run.

If we get last year's performance minus a10%drop off due to age and injury, he would be the best jet qb in a decade.

He's not our future, but for a team that hasn't had a franchise qb since the 60's, he should be a welcomed upgrade. Everyone knows we need to find a legitimate qb for the future, but there's a reason that only 10 or 12 teams out of 32, think they have that guy. They are the single most difficult thing to find and get right in the nfl.

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mykcuz

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It bothers me that you completely dismiss Fitz based on something as general as"he's just not very good" he had a 95 qbr last year before breaking his leg. It was the first time in his 10 year career he had a defense better than 22nd or any kind of offense to run.

If we get last year's performance minus a10%drop off due to age and injury, he would be the best jet qb in a decade.

He's not our future, but for a team that hasn't had a franchise qb since the 60's, he should be a welcomed upgrade. Everyone knows we need to find a legitimate qb for the future, but there's a reason that only 10 or 12 teams out of 32, think they have that guy. They are the single most difficult thing to find and get right in the nfl.

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Listen, I'm happy you have such optimism although I do not share the same sentiments. You're desperately trying to equate Ryan Fitz Patrick into a winning QB. Well, he's NOT, and he's NEVER been.
I don't know what equating into a winning qb means, but what I'm doing is being rational and putting his career in context.
Again, to be VERY clear. No one here thinks Fitz is our future. But he has the tools and the knowledge to manage our specific offense this year. There's always a chance that any player randomly has a terrible year.

But would you agree that if we take fitzs annual production, and subtract a reasonable amount like 10% to account for aging, that we have some kind of context for who he will be?

Yes, he isn't tom brady, we get that.
But a lot more factors go into an average QBs career than just he's good or bad. We need to put his career in context. He's had bad numbers on terrible teams, which is completely expected. But I have watched a lot of his games throughout the years.
In my view, Fitz has always been on teams with bottom 5 defenses. He's always playing from behind, throwing too much and trying to force the ball because that's your only choice on bad teams.

Last year he joined a competent team with a good defense, and tools on offense, and surprise surprise he was good.

We have to deal with reality. He's our best option, he can be a top 20 qb on our team this year. And that would be completely in line with his career production.

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OCCH

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Listen, Mark Sanchez has a decent arm, Ryan Fitzpatrick has seriously diminishing arm strength. Not saying either one of them are any good, they both suck. Sanchez was never the worst QB in NFL history, Ryan Leaf was. But Sanchez was terrible, no doubt.

Fitz was probably better at some point in his career, but it certainly doesn't appear to be now. What? Do you think Fitz is so great? That's actually absurd if you do.

Are you really saying arm strength trumps decision making? Fitz may lack the first, but certainly beats Sanchez in the second (and that's not a compliment to Fitz as much as a condemnation of Mark).

I never thought Sanchez was "the worst QB in NFL history" either, but there was an actual thread at JI "proving" it was true.

My comment wasn't directly pointed at you as much as a general observation of how quickly perspectives change based on current circumstances . . .
 

Costigan77

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It bothers me that you completely dismiss Fitz based on something as general as"he's just not very good" he had a 95 qbr last year before breaking his leg. It was the first time in his 10 year career he had a defense better than 22nd or any kind of offense to run.

If we get last year's performance minus a10%drop off due to age and injury, he would be the best jet qb in a decade.

He's not our future, but for a team that hasn't had a franchise qb since the 60's, he should be a welcomed upgrade. Everyone knows we need to find a legitimate qb for the future, but there's a reason that only 10 or 12 teams out of 32, think they have that guy. They are the single most difficult thing to find and get right in the nfl.

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Listen, I'm happy you have such optimism although I do not share the same sentiments. You're desperately trying to equate Ryan Fitz Patrick into a winning QB. Well, he's NOT, and he's NEVER been.


No one is. But he is the first competent qb here since Favre/Pennington. He doesn't need to be great. He just can be someone this team has to win with in spite of his problems. The guy protects the ball. I will take 15 play drives dinking and dunking over geno going 60 yards in 5 plays and throwing a pick in the endzone
 
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I don't know what equating into a winning qb means, but what I'm doing is being rational and putting his career in context.
Again, to be VERY clear. No one here thinks Fitz is our future. But he has the tools and the knowledge to manage our specific offense this year. There's always a chance that any player randomly has a terrible year.

But would you agree that if we take fitzs annual production, and subtract a reasonable amount like 10% to account for aging, that we have some kind of context for who he will be?

Yes, he isn't tom brady, we get that.
But a lot more factors go into an average QBs career than just he's good or bad. We need to put his career in context. He's had bad numbers on terrible teams, which is completely expected. But I have watched a lot of his games throughout the years.
In my view, Fitz has always been on teams with bottom 5 defenses. He's always playing from behind, throwing too much and trying to force the ball because that's your only choice on bad teams.

Last year he joined a competent team with a good defense, and tools on offense, and surprise surprise he was good.

We have to deal with reality. He's our best option, he can be a top 20 qb on our team this year. And that would be completely in line with his career production.

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I agree. Fitz will be fine as long as the team is playing well.

He's 32 not 42, he is off one of his better seasons. Like you said he's not the future, but he is an excellent place holder for Petty (hopefully). If not there are several good QB's in next year's draft.

I just hope it's Petty next year. MY biggest major concern is injury. He has several of them over his career.
 

mykcuz

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I agree. Fitz will be fine as long as the team is playing well.

He's 32 not 42, he is off one of his better seasons. Like you said he's not the future, but he is an excellent place holder for Petty (hopefully). If not there are several good QB's in next year's draft.

I just hope it's Petty next year. MY biggest major concern is injury. He has several of them over his career.
Watching the news the last 2 weeks, everyone is worried about injuries. It's been a tough training camp

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So far what's been impressive about Fitzpatrick as our starter this preseason is no turnovers. When was the last time a Jets starting QB has been this efficient? Again he is not a flashy QB but is bringing professionalism back to the position.
 

Jet Fan RI

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I'm still holding out hope that Fitz can be another Jim Plunkett and win us a couple SB's late in his career.
 

Elias

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I'm with you 100%. There's no reason why we can't be optimistic of our season hopes with Fitz at the helm. He is an improvement to whatever QB was out there the last five years.

Rich Gannon was another player that experienced success late in his career
 
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I am also hopeful for Fitzpatrick. He is smart and has had experience in Chan Gailey's offense. This is probably the best defense he has been with. I was impressed with him last night.
 
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