Ryan Fitzpatrick Highlights @ Bills
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ryan & chan took rex & rob behind the woodshed last night, plain & simple..
off the top of my head, i can't remember any jet QB getting that many 30+ yards completions in one game.. am i alone with that JFU??
hell, that's even with the marshall drop & fitzpatrick's prettiest/deepest pass of the night to decker that was called back for holding..
Fitz had a great game yesterday. Not sure about the answer to your question but he completed 10 passes for more than 15 yards. Tied for 3rd most of any qb over the last ten years. I didn't expect to hear that about our qb
& we kept hearing from the naysayers: fitzpatrick's barely average.. fitzpatrick's too old.. fitzpatrick's has no ability to make plays downfield.. fitzpatrick's not even worth low tier starters money.. & my personal favorite, start smith because he'll probably put up the same numbers or better with these weapons, at the fraction of the cost..
i've said it here before & i'll say it again.. 33 really isn't that old for a QB & sometimes the light doesn't turn on for some guys until around that age.. has the light "turned on for fitzpatrick??" perhaps.. what i will say is, the point can be made with the last two years & last night, perhaps it has..
when you see the guy move around in the pocket buying time does he look like an old guy.?? when he runs for medium sized chunks for crucial 1st downs does he look 33 or 23??
rhetorical questions, BTW.....
Fitzpatrick NEVER had this type of arsenal...
Yes he had possibly a duo threat at receiver but the emergence of Enunwa and adding Forte to the backfield has given Fitz more to utilize on every down..
Any quarterback with this type of talent surrounding 'em should be able to win, is that knocking Fitz maybe but it is his experience that allows him to be more successful at this point...
Yes he had possibly a duo threat at receiver but the emergence of Enunwa and adding Forte to the backfield has given Fitz more to utilize on every down..
Any quarterback with this type of talent surrounding 'em should be able to win, is that knocking Fitz maybe but it is his experience that allows him to be more successful at this point...
& you say all this to say what exactly??
cause i'm saying year three here as the starter could be a real possibility.....
I'm saying like last year it is all on Fitz not to be Fitz but to play within the system (DO NOT TAKE CHANCES) and we will succeed... But after this year because how the roster is and likely going to be next year he isn't guaranteed a roster spot moving forward...
Let me reiterate, he won't be returning for a whopping $12+ M salary when Bryce Petty or Christian Hackenberg could produce with these weapons at the helm...
well, potential decisions like like those keep folks employed or fired..
i'm optimistic petty can be the guy next season, if need be.. hackenberg being ready in 2017 is a huge reach in my book though..
BTW, if fitzpatrick matches or surpasses last season's numbers, 12+ million would be a "whopping" sum of money to retain him?? again??
60+ TD's over two seasons (while maintaining a 2-1 TD INT ratio) is quite economical for a starting QB.. as a matter of fact, it's a bargain by today's NFL standards.. by my estimation at least.....
the only real way anyone should entertain Fitzpatrick in returning is only one reason:
the Jets get to the Super Bowl, not necessarily win the Super Bowl but just to get there...
another replica season of last year and no playoffs is unacceptable...
regardless of statistics it comes down to production, end of story...
this team is built for immediate success not future competitiveness...
and yes, Petty should take over next season...
To me this is '98 all over again. Vinny was a journey man and he hit his stride with our club as he had a coach who knew how to utilize his talents and the weapons around him.
We have an overall good defense that will only get better. A coaching staff who will game plan to tiredless nights in order to beat elite teams as the ones we will be facing. Special teams, we have lethal athletes who can provide great field position throughout th games.
Ryan is who he is but make no mistake, the guy is a Veteran that this team needs in oder to succeed. If he goes down and 7 comes in, we're doomed. Thankfully our O-Line is playing lights out in protecting him and allowing holes to open up for Forte'.
Fitzy was rust in game one. He shook off the rust in game two and its blatant to see what this offence can be when he is on his game. I expect many more of these performances this season.
We have an overall good defense that will only get better. A coaching staff who will game plan to tiredless nights in order to beat elite teams as the ones we will be facing. Special teams, we have lethal athletes who can provide great field position throughout th games.
Ryan is who he is but make no mistake, the guy is a Veteran that this team needs in oder to succeed. If he goes down and 7 comes in, we're doomed. Thankfully our O-Line is playing lights out in protecting him and allowing holes to open up for Forte'.
Fitzy was rust in game one. He shook off the rust in game two and its blatant to see what this offence can be when he is on his game. I expect many more of these performances this season.
He had a great game Thursday, but I'm skeptical of Fitz until he reaches the playoffs. Starting next year over Petty depends on playoffs for me. If he helps the Jets make the playoffs and its not completely on the defense which Revis and Co. are proving they won't be the reason, then he deserves another one year contract. If no playoffs, then we need to move on. Always make Fitz prove himself and never give him more than one year at a time.
Hate to break it to you, petty starting next year also depends on petty.
And if Fitz has similar production to pay year,he's getting a multi year deal somewhere.
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i hope that's with us if petty can't earn the starting gig next season.....
LOLz first things first though, at KC.....
I agree,some people really assume a lot,over look a lot.
Petty looked like he was progressing nicely against practice squad or unemployed talent. To assume he's just going to automatically be nfl ready week 1 next year is a stretch.
I think most people forget how normal, below average qb play is,in the nfl. Suddenly we have the most productive qb in the last 10 years,and he's a bum and we've already set his departure date for an unproven project kid. The same week he puts up almost 400 yards against a team we lost to in our last 5 meetings.
I mean cmon guys. If Fitz repeats last year's numbers, we're a 10 win team for 2 years straight(better than the giants),after an 8 win and 4 win season. Most years 10 wins gets you in the playoffs.
And Fitz would have 60tds and 30ints, a tie or winning division record, be the best qb in 50 years of team history, and would have been paid 15 million combined, less than Sam Bradford or Brock osweiler make in a single year.
Can we enjoy this special offense,and stop taking for granted that any project qb can just walk into a talented offense and know what to do with it.
And oh yea, we have the hardest schedule in the nfl as of week 1, and we are two chip shots away from starting 2-0. Fitz wasnt the reason we lost to a perennial playoff team whose qb and star wr were playing well, and who might win their division again this year.
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And if he can get a multi year deal that he couldn't come close to this year then good for him.
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at this point, i'm not sure if people even know why they knock fitzpatrick anymore..
is it their lack of faith he can maintain his level of play over the last 2 years & last thursday??
any competent NFL QB could do at least as well as fitzpatrick has with these weapons??
is it simply out of habit??
all of the above??
All I need to see from Fitz is playoffs. I know he can throw for multiple TD's per game and over 300 yards. I also know he can destroy average to bad teams. What I'm not sure of is can he beat good to great defenses/teams consistently?? Or if he can win the games that matter?? Or if he can lead a team to the playoffs??
Other than those things I'm very pleased with Fitz because he does make us competitive weekly and as much as I want the playoffs yearly, I definitely don't want to be a non-competitive team that nobody wants to play for. I just need playoff proof. I also don't want to be 8-8 for multiple years.
if fitzpatrick gets us to the playoffs dealing with this schedule he will have earned his multi year deal..
if that deal isn't with us, maccagnan & bowles better have guessed right.....
Mac got the Fitz deal wrong to begin with. He believed in him enough to trade a pick for him, yet failed to execute the most basic contract extension day 1. He could have extended him for peanuts, instead we're looking at another negotiation this offseason,unless he's betting the number 3qb on our roster will be a starter with zero experience and almost zero reps this season.
Most people and fans agreed before week 1,that if we could just start 2-2 with this schedule, it would be considered a success. Fitz did that except for folk uncharacteristically missing 2 chip shots week 1. Now we have to make up for losing against the Bengals. I've said it before, it's going to be an exciting season as a fan.
I think kc is very winnable, but not easy. If we can limit mental mistakes and sloppy ball handling,we have the talent to be a scary team. I think if we can score 24 against kc, we will win.
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