Should the Jets make a long-term commitment to Fitzpatrick?

[gmf1369]

ESPN -- Based on the premise that "long-term" in the NFL means two years, the answer is, yes, they should. Despite a three-interception performance in the finale, Fitzpatrick, a free agent, deserves a new contract as long as it makes sense for both sides. It should be a deal that pays him like a middle-of-the-pack starter for 2016 and 2017, but provides flexibility for the Jets in the future.

It'll be difficult for Fitzpatrick to duplicate 2015, but his chemistry with Marshall, Eric Decker and offensive coordinator Chan Gailey is too good to break up.

Besides, what's the alternative?

Geno Smith? Please.

Bryce Petty? Needs more seasoning.

The current free-agent market is thin, as usual. As long as he doesn't make outlandish demands -- looking for a contract in the $10 million to $12 million range annually -- Fitzpatrick should be back. Don't look a gift QB in the mouth.

 

[TebowCan'tThrow]

If by long term you mean 2 years then yes. Nothing more.

 

[butterscotch]

We need a QB or a top top OL with Fitz

 

[SackExchange]

Two years, maybe 3, absolutely. He goes into next year the starter, and if Petty is able to outplay him partway through the season, then he will earn his starting spot.

I'd keep the skill guys intact right now. The chemistry between Fitz, Marshall, and Decker is solid, today aside.

 

[gmf1369]

If by long term you mean 2 years then yes. Nothing more.

We need a QB or a top top OL with Fitz

well BSPN thinks Fitz is like these other veteran quarterbacks that are playing into their 50s...

I also don't believe we will offer anything more than 2 years and probably not for the price they say he should get, just b/c he is a liability putting himself in danger with those scrambles... But I could be wrong but usually I nail these things...

As for the OL situation [MENTION=288]butterscotch[/MENTION] I agree and think we will target not one but two linemen in the first three rounds...

Bryce Petty is worth a damn, but until everyone sees him play more will they jump on the bandwagon...

 

[butterscotch]

well BSPN thinks Fitz is like these other veteran quarterbacks that are playing into their 50s...

I also don't believe we will offer anything more than 2 years and probably not for the price they say he should get, just b/c he is a liability putting himself in danger with those scrambles... But I could be wrong but usually I nail these things...

As for the OL situation [MENTION=288]butterscotch[/MENTION] I agree and think we will target not one but two linemen in the first three rounds...

Bryce Petty is worth a damn, but until everyone sees him play more will they jump on the bandwagon...

I agree lets build the OL

 

[jets82]

Hell no! Give him a one or two year deal for like $8m or something to that nature. Jets need young and true franchise QB. Fitz was a nice a great story this year and will be a great back-up the Jets alot more then what Fitz brings to the table.

 

[Green Jets & Ham]

There's no denying Fitz had a terrific season and earned the right to comeback as the starter.

THAT SAID, here's my concern, the knock on Fitz has ALWAYS been that he's a bad bad weather QB, doesn't have enough arm to deal with the elements in the northeast when the weather turns cold, thats what ended his tenure in Buffalo, and you saw some of that today when he barely completed over 40% of his passes.

What concerns me is that he was exceedingly fortunate with weather this year. The northeast broke warm weather records this year in December. In December to was like Spring and Fall, no snow, no winds, heck he never even played in a driving rainstorm this year, all the stars aligned to create the perfect conditions for Fitzpatrick, and UNTIL THIS SUNDAY he didn't play any bad weather games on the road this year either.

Chances are you will never see anything like that again. Next year he'll probably play at least a half-dozen bad weather games home and away, minimum, which is normal at the Meadowlands and in the AFCE. What happened this year was historically abnormal. At least a half dozen games in the types of conditions he encountered in Buffalo is far more likely next year. If you saw what the wind was doing with his passes in Buffalo, that is alarming.

 

[gmf1369]

There's no denying Fitz had a terrific season and earned the right to comeback as the starter.

THAT SAID, here's my concern, the knock on Fitz has ALWAYS been that he's a bad bad weather QB, doesn't have enough arm to deal with the elements in the northeast when the weather turns cold, thats what ended his tenure in Buffalo, and you saw some of that today he he barely completed over 40% of his passes.

What concerns me is that he was exceedingly fortunate with weather this year. As it turned out, the northeast broke warm weather records this year in December. In December to was like Spring and Fall, no snow, no winds, heck he never even played in a driving rainstorm this year, all the stars aligned to create the perfect conditions for Fitzpatrick, and UNTIL THUS SUNDAY he didn't play any bad weather games on the road this year either.

Chances are you will never see anything like that again. Next year he'll probably play at least a half-dozen bad weather games home and away, minimum, which is normal at the Meadowlands and in the AFC East. What happened this year was historically abnormal. At least a half dozen games in the types of conditions he encountered in Buffalo is far more likely next years.

If you saw what the wind was doing with his passes in Buffalo, and you know his history, that was alarming.

but the idea of bringing him back with more improved talent surrounding him, and yes the success they had this year they can build upon that success... rely on more of short to intermediate passing attack, keep things simple and not let him take over games with his bad decision making as he did a few times this season we could be okay...

again it would be a smart decision to bring him back for no more than 2 years with guarantees only in the first year... this is with the premise on how they feel the progression Petty has made thus far...

 

[Green Jets & Ham]

but the idea of bringing him back with more improved talent surrounding him, and yes the success they had this year they can build upon that success... rely on more of short to intermediate passing attack, keep things simple and not let him take over games with his bad decision making as he did a few times this season we could be okay...

again it would be a smart decision to bring him back for no more than 2 years with guarantees only in the first year... this is with the premise on how they feel the progression Petty has made thus far...

I agree, I have to bring him back for 2 Years if the price is reasonable, so long as we don't overpay, so this way if this proves to be a CAREER YEAR and he reverts back to his prior journeyman form, and if the weather wrecks havoc on his passes next year, we can make the move to Petty and it won't be too costly. But yes, Fitz has earned the right to return as the starter next year, and I can live with a reasonable two year deal.

 

[ucrenegade]

2 years............starts next year then in 2017 petty beats him out in TC

 

[usapaw]

No thanks.

 

[soj]

If by long term you mean 2 years then yes. Nothing more.

Agree ... hold the fort till Petty or somone can take the reins.

 

[mykcuz]

You can't overlook good chemistry at qb, bring in the wrong guy, and suddenly it's toxic. Also this is a short term team of Veterans, how long did cam newton take to come into his own? Just throwing petty in could be a2 or 3 year learning curve.

I think you stick with Fitz in the 6-8 mill range for 2 years. Do you let the guy who had the best passing year in team history walk? The only exception I think makes sense, is if drew bees or Philip rivers are actually available.

Otherwise we have 2 story lines going forward, the first being this core of Veterans playing and improving over the next 2 years, while we continue to build on the back end via draft. The Jets team on the field in 2018 will be drastically different from this year's team. There's a lot of turnover coming, and that's a good thing. Remember this is a complete rebuild project while staying competitive.

I think a couple more good moves like mac made this season, and we are deep in the playoffs next year. First, we need a stud#2 clutch receiver in free agency. Next we need to draft a beast starting o line guy. 3rd,we need a Brian Urlacher type linebacker. Those 3 moves, if possible, change everything. All other picks are gravy.

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[Elias]

No thanks.

Who do you think is a better option than Fitz that the Jets can plug in and get the same production for?

 

[Elias]

You can't overlook good chemistry at qb, bring in the wrong guy, and suddenly it's toxic. Also this is a short term team of Veterans, how long did cam newton take to come into his own? Just throwing petty in could be a2 or 3 year learning curve.

I think you stick with Fitz in the 6-8 mill range for 2 years. Do you let the guy who had the best passing year in team history walk? The only exception I think makes sense, is if drew bees or Philip rivers are actually available.

Otherwise we have 2 story lines going forward, the first being this core of Veterans playing and improving over the next 2 years, while we continue to build on the back end via draft. The Jets team on the field in 2018 will be drastically different from this year's team. There's a lot of turnover coming, and that's a good thing. Remember this is a complete rebuild project while staying competitive.

I think a couple more good moves like mac made this season, and we are deep in the playoffs next year. First, we need a stud#2 clutch receiver in free agency. Next we need to draft a beast starting o line guy. 3rd,we need a Brian Urlacher type linebacker. Those 3 moves, if possible, change everything. All other picks are gravy.

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I agree with everything you said. It's sad that we attempted to draft a #2 receiver but whiffed. Hopefully Smith can pan out.

 

[marac]

2-3 year deal with incentives No Brainer, Done Deal... Now what do we do about the Lines??? O & D

 

[LGM]

I may as well repeat what I've been saying since May

1. Resign Fitzpatrick for as many years as he wants with a reasonable signing bonus and year one guaranteed. The total amount and number of years are irrelevant in the NFL where the bonus and the guaranteed years are all that matter

2. Sign a cheapish veteran unsurance QB (Flynn Moore type)

3 Draft a prospect QB early on day 3 unless Mac feels a potentially great one is still on the board at 20 or on day 2

4. Release Geno Smith on the first day it is possible (This morning?) under league rules

5. Announce that Fitzpatrick is the starter (for now and hopefully September) and will get first team reps in OTAs, MC and TC

6. Fair competition between Petty, the FA vet and the draft pick initially for the backup spot unless the Earth and Heavens move and one of them emerges as an obvious starter candidate for 2016

All in all we are 1000 percent better off at the QB situation than last year at this time and certainly as far back as Vinny's 1998 season end

 

[LGM]

Brees or Rivers????

Please god no

Both are over and done and each led their teams to dumpster fire seasons in 2015

 

[Metjetgal]

Yes, to hold you over. He is what he is. He's going to throw back breaking int's, and have plenty of passes batted down at the line. He's better then what's out there, he's above mediocre, and his team really likes him. If Petty isn't the answer, draft someone, and let them sit for a year behind Fitz. He is what he is, better then average, and better then most alternatives.