Should the Jets make a long-term commitment to Fitzpatrick?

[butterscotch]

The sad part is under the NFL rules in this day & age a very good QB can take an average team to the playoffs.....maybe below average team.......so we Build a very good team around Fitz or get a young (stud) QB & start over. If we go young mangold, Brick, Marshall, decker & Ivory won't be around for his peak years.


As I have said all along....big mac will be judged by the QB he brings the Jets....hook or crook he needs to find one.

 

[hobson54]

yes you bring him back. and the length of the contract is largely irrelevant if you don't give him a big signing bonus or make guarantees in future years. just like the contract with cromartie last off-season, it can be done as a year-to-year deal. although i'd imagine a QB will want a little more guaranteed.

so pay him somewhere around $8-10 million per, give him some modest signing bonus or partial 2017 guarantee. and then draft another QB and keep and continue to groom petty and the draftee.

 

[gmf1369]

so basically the Jets would be smart to have a front loaded contract of no more than 3 years with the majority of guarantees in the first year on a two year deal or the first two years if this is a contract of three years...

 

[usapaw]

Who do you think is a better option than Fitz that the Jets can plug in and get the same production for?

I am all for keeping Fitz for the right price ..as a darn good backup. Meaning 4-5M per year, signing bonus and not guaranteed money for the second year. If someone else comes along and offers him 8M/yr for 4 yrs,15M Guaranteed..no thanks.

Yesterday, and all season shows that Fitz could keep this up for a few years, but this is all he will ever be. He is an average, aging QB. He forces throws into double and triple coverage, he runs and dives headfirst every game (upping the likelihood of a season ending injury), and his deep throws never hit the mark. He is probably one of the best (stable) backups in the league, nothing more. Decker and Marshall go way out of their way to make 50% of receptions that are errant throws.

This team will not give you any more than it did this year because they overachieved with a rag-tag group. You either start Petty or you draft the guy you think will be "the guy". I get why people want Fitz to be the QB for a couple years because we haven't had stability at the position for years but the likelihood that he will bring us to the promise land is about 5%. King of the "bubble screen" (for a 2yd loss).

 

[Bronx]

2 years , trade for another QB. I'd inquire about Glennon

 

[Bronx]

The problem with this fanbase is that they never want to give a chance for players to develop. Look at Cousins, very few of our fans would've gave the guy a chance in his 4th season. They would've been done after one season. Tyrod Taylor sat for 4 years and look at the results. If Petty plays next year and struggles, which will be likely, he will be booed off the field

 

[lounap23]

If by long term you mean 2 years then yes. Nothing more.

Agreed 2 years is what is appropriate

 

[lounap23]

The problem with this fanbase is that they never want to give a chance for players to develop. Look at Cousins, very few of our fans would've gave the guy a chance in his 4th season. They would've been done after one season. Tyrod Taylor sat for 4 years and look at the results. If Petty plays next year and struggles, which will be likely, he will be booed off the field

Petty needs to sit one more year.... I think year 3 he takes over.

 

[gmf1369]

2 years , trade for another QB. I'd inquire about Glennon

I'd rather try to get Ryan Nassib from the Giants if we are looking to trade for one...

 

[butterscotch]

I am all for keeping Fitz for the right price ..as a darn good backup. Meaning 4-5M per year, signing bonus and not guaranteed money for the second year. If someone else comes along and offers him 8M/yr for 4 yrs,15M Guaranteed..no thanks.

Yesterday, and all season shows that Fitz could keep this up for a few years, but this is all he will ever be. He is an average, aging QB. He forces throws into double and triple coverage, he runs and dives headfirst every game (upping the likelihood of a season ending injury), and his deep throws never hit the mark. He is probably one of the best (stable) backups in the league, nothing more. Decker and Marshall go way out of their way to make 50% of receptions that are errant throws.

This team will not give you any more than it did this year because they overachieved with a rag-tag group. You either start Petty or you draft the guy you think will be "the guy". I get why people want Fitz to be the QB for a couple years because we haven't had stability at the position for years but the likelihood that he will bring us to the promise land is about 5%. King of the "bubble screen" (for a 2yd loss).

Great post well said like your points!

Can fitz be better yes...He had no TE, He did not have a third or fourth WR. He did not have special teams to give him a better position to score from. & until powell no third down back....so yes he can be better


But if it were me & we can find a young stud QB or two to pick from...I would start over as of today.


If we can't fitz is it

 

[jets rooter]

the jets must not spend big money on Fitzpatrick.he is 34 years old going on 35 years old. this years draft is loaded with very good quarterbacks. the jets have to look forward to the future. the offensive line is a must in the coming draft.the team at present is old at key positions.this season was a joy to watch.but the handwriting is on the wall.the jets must rebuild.

 

[TebowCan'tThrow]

Fitz cost himself a lot of money in the 4th quarter. If he wants too much money then you let him walk. When it counts, Fitz has shown that he crumbles and he doesn't have the skill set in bad weather. If we played in a dome then he might be worth more. He is a one year stop gap at this point.

 

[gmf1369]

Front Load a contract $9 Million 1st year, $7 Million 2nd year

First year has 75% guaranteed money he earned that...
Second year has partial guarantees on develop of Bryce Petty... Second year also has incentives of playing time to add more $$$s...

I would be happy with this type of offer, just don't know if he would accept it...

 

[WestCoastOffensive]

There's no denying Fitz had a terrific season and earned the right to comeback as the starter.

THAT SAID, here's my concern, the knock on Fitz has ALWAYS been that he's a bad bad weather QB, doesn't have enough arm to deal with the elements in the northeast when the weather turns cold, thats what ended his tenure in Buffalo, and you saw some of that today when he barely completed over 40% of his passes.

What concerns me is that he was exceedingly fortunate with weather this year. The northeast broke warm weather records this year in December. In December to was like Spring and Fall, no snow, no winds, heck he never even played in a driving rainstorm this year, all the stars aligned to create the perfect conditions for Fitzpatrick, and UNTIL THIS SUNDAY he didn't play any bad weather games on the road this year either.

Chances are you will never see anything like that again. Next year he'll probably play at least a half-dozen bad weather games home and away, minimum, which is normal at the Meadowlands and in the AFCE. What happened this year was historically abnormal. At least a half dozen games in the types of conditions he encountered in Buffalo is far more likely next year. If you saw what the wind was doing with his passes in Buffalo, that is alarming.

FitzMagic + el Nino = 10 wins.


I just got sadder.

 

[WestCoastOffensive]

I agree with everything you said. It's sad that we attempted to draft a #2 receiver but whiffed. Hopefully Smith can pan out.

We have Amaro coming back; Smith will be better next year? He has a OSU pedigree.

 

[butterscotch]

fitzmagic + el nino = 10 wins.


I just got sadder.

lol

 

[Atljet60]

Two years and that's it. As for now, it gives us the best chance to win.

 

[mykcuz]

There are 4qbs in the first round and wr pick 20. If we draft aqb, who is our backup? Petty shouldn't see the field next year unless we're winning 40-0 in the 4th. He has great skills but needs grooming. Don't be in a rush to rib his career.

I know we're in the ny market, and we have no patience. But why do so many jets fans have this insatiable desire to throw some young kid on the bench into starting roles, and think in the back of your brain he's the next Joe Montana.

That's not how you develop a qb, only guys with the last name Manning can do that because they were groomed from birth. If the coaches thought petty would light the world on fire he would have played. Give him 2 years of learning, then year 3 see how he conducts the o in pre season and make a judgement call. It's like a filet mignon, you don't want it raw, and once you take it off the grill you can't put it back, it's ruined.

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[usapaw]

Can we drop the nonsense that everyone has adopted; "Petty must sit for three years" because some scout has decided that it must be his path. I just find it amusing that the bandwagon has adopted this theory. Let's face it 99% of us don't know jack about this young man having to sit for three years. Look at Brock Osweiler (no clue on spelling) and how great is was for him to sit...5 turnovers. Today on ESPN they inferred Osweiler was a dope and that he just can't grasp the classroom.
It was great that we didn't have to play Petty this year but we can't afford to sit him for three years and then give him two years to see if he is "the guy". This is NY people: nobody gets 5 years. People are already wanting to draft a qb without ever seeing what Petty has. However; if the coaching staff say he isn't the guy I can live with that.

 

[Elias]

Can we drop the nonsense that everyone has adopted; "Petty must sit for three years" because some scout has decided that it must be his path. I just find it amusing that the bandwagon has adopted this theory. Let's face it 99% of us don't know jack about this young man having to sit for three years. Look at Brock Osweiler (no clue on spelling) and how great is was for him to sit...5 turnovers. Today on ESPN they inferred Osweiler was a dope and that he just can't grasp the classroom.
It was great that we didn't have to play Petty this year but we can't afford to sit him for three years and then give him two years to see if he is "the guy". This is NY people: nobody gets 5 years. People are already wanting to draft a qb without ever seeing what Petty has. However; if the coaching staff say he isn't the guy I can live with that.

Petty should sit. He didn't read a single defense in college. In the pros, they will disguise and throw all these different looks at him. It's best if he sits but three years may be too long. I say we resign Fitz and if he falters next season we let Petty take over and see what he has.