Should the Jets make a long-term commitment to Fitzpatrick?

RMJK

5th Year Team Option
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Fitz wasn't the problem; had Dexter run the route a little underneath the Defender on a timing route we are in. The Defense let the QB get away. The Defense couldn't stop Buffalo on 3rd down. Fitz wasn't the problem. The bounce of the ball, a play here or there, whatever, it wasn't out year. Give Fitz a good contract and let Petty come in when necessary. I'd trade Geno for a 5th. Heart breaking year but a good start from last year.
 
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Mainejet

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YES, the Jets should make every effort to resign him to a cap friendly, mostly incentive based contract. Here's why:

1) He played much better than anyone would have thought.

2) THINK of the alternative?! Going with Geno Smith would surely ruin this entire offense and team.

3) He could be used as a very positive and knowledgeable resource for Bryce Petty and any other they draft in 2016.

Fitz was robbed in the Buffalo game as the WR's, especially Quincy Enunwa, dropped multiple passes. Fitz needs another WR with really good hands. I would say that option is Jeremy Kerley, but the Jets never use him.

With that said, beware of just how much they are willing to pay. The real Ryan Fitzpatrick showed up in Buffalo just in time to ruin our playoff hopes. He was inaccurate, he lacked the intelligence that he had shown at the LOS in past games, and when we really needed him to show up late in the game he went way too far throwing interception after interception.

But all told, I don't believe the Jets can do better in the interim. I also wonder just how good Fitz could be if he's given all of the weapons that a real offense has. A TE and FB? A top notch blocker working his way up the depth chart. WR depth that actually catches the ball.
 

Europe_for_JETS

Repeat Offender Pro Bowler
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I may as well repeat what I've been saying since May

1. Resign Fitzpatrick for as many years as he wants with a reasonable signing bonus and year one guaranteed. The total amount and number of years are irrelevant in the NFL where the bonus and the guaranteed years are all that matter

2. Sign a cheapish veteran unsurance QB (Flynn Moore type)

3 Draft a prospect QB early on day 3 unless Mac feels a potentially great one is still on the board at 20 or on day 2

4. Release Geno Smith on the first day it is possible (This morning?) under league rules

5. Announce that Fitzpatrick is the starter (for now and hopefully September) and will get first team reps in OTAs, MC and TC

6. Fair competition between Petty, the FA vet and the draft pick initially for the backup spot unless the Earth and Heavens move and one of them emerges as an obvious starter candidate for 2016

All in all we are 1000 percent better off at the QB situation than last year at this time and certainly as far back as Vinny's 1998 season end

This!
 

jetgreen13

founding JFU member..
Jet Fanatics
well BSPN thinks Fitz is like these other veteran quarterbacks that are playing into their 50s...

I also don't believe we will offer anything more than 2 years and probably not for the price they say he should get, just b/c he is a liability putting himself in danger with those scrambles... But I could be wrong but usually I nail these things...

As for the OL situation [MENTION=288]butterscotch[/MENTION] I agree and think we will target not one but two linemen in the first three rounds...

Bryce Petty is worth a damn, but until everyone sees him play more will they jump on the bandwagon...
LOLz "BSPN!!"

i'm quite sure bowlse gets his wish & fitzpatrick gets a new contract with the jets..

it makes to much sense for absolutely everyone involved not to happen..

the contract will be front loaded so it's length won't mean a damn thing.. IMO..

can't wait!!
 

soj

retired Veteran
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BTW ...latest tidbit form NJ JETS is Geno wants to start again... sigh
 

TebowCan'tThrow

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If Fitz doesn't have Marshall playing at a high level then his numbers are drastically different. This team is old in key spots and needs to get younger, faster and have an edge to them. It was a fun year and we tried to catch lightning in a bottle. We failed to make the playoffs and we have giant holes throughout the roster. Sign Fitz to a one year guaranteed contract and probably start him unless Petty or another rookie is ready.
 

jetgreen13

founding JFU member..
Jet Fanatics
If Fitz doesn't have Marshall playing at a high level then his numbers are drastically different. This team is old in key spots and needs to get younger, faster and have an edge to them. It was a fun year and we tried to catch lightning in a bottle. We failed to make the playoffs and we have giant holes throughout the roster. Sign Fitz to a one year guaranteed contract and probably start him unless Petty or another rookie is ready.
i'm a fan of coach bowles & what he brings to the table..

but a team with "edge" doesn't lose, again to ryan's bills last sunday..

i would be insincere if i didn't admit i'm concerned with that perceived void in bowles toolbox..
 

butterscotch

Jets/Cards
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If Fitz doesn't have Marshall playing at a high level then his numbers are drastically different. This team is old in key spots and needs to get younger, faster and have an edge to them. It was a fun year and we tried to catch lightning in a bottle. We failed to make the playoffs and we have giant holes throughout the roster. Sign Fitz to a one year guaranteed contract and probably start him unless Petty or another rookie is ready.


I agree! Nice post
 

lounap23

Legend
Jet Fanatics
I may as well repeat what I've been saying since May

1. Resign Fitzpatrick for as many years as he wants with a reasonable signing bonus and year one guaranteed. The total amount and number of years are irrelevant in the NFL where the bonus and the guaranteed years are all that matter

2. Sign a cheapish veteran unsurance QB (Flynn Moore type)

3 Draft a prospect QB early on day 3 unless Mac feels a potentially great one is still on the board at 20 or on day 2

4. Release Geno Smith on the first day it is possible (This morning?) under league rules

5. Announce that Fitzpatrick is the starter (for now and hopefully September) and will get first team reps in OTAs, MC and TC

6. Fair competition between Petty, the FA vet and the draft pick initially for the backup spot unless the Earth and Heavens move and one of them emerges as an obvious starter candidate for 2016

All in all we are 1000 percent better off at the QB situation than last year at this time and certainly as far back as Vinny's 1998 season end


I agree with all of this except sign a veteran.... Fitz is the starter no doubt.... Cut Geno Yes.... Have Petty taking all the #2 reps thru OTA's and mini camp..... if the progress is there let him be the backup and definitely draft a guy on Day 2 or 3... Unless like you said someone like Connor Cook is there at 20 but even with that said maybe a trade down is the best option.
 

usapaw

Rookie
Jet Fanatics
Why trade Geno or cut him when we own him on the cheap? He has NFL experience and there is no better deal out there for the jets.
If the JETS think that Petty is the future and want to re-sign Fitz for the present then we are set at QB. Cutting Geno would be stupid? Pick up that #3 next year.
This year is RB, OL, OL, LB, LB, BAP, BAP
 

mykcuz

Franchise Tagged
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Can we drop the nonsense that everyone has adopted; "Petty must sit for three years" because some scout has decided that it must be his path. I just find it amusing that the bandwagon has adopted this theory. Let's face it 99% of us don't know jack about this young man having to sit for three years. Look at Brock Osweiler (no clue on spelling) and how great is was for him to sit...5 turnovers. Today on ESPN they inferred Osweiler was a dope and that he just can't grasp the classroom.
It was great that we didn't have to play Petty this year but we can't afford to sit him for three years and then give him two years to see if he is "the guy". This is NY people: nobody gets 5 years. People are already wanting to draft a qb without ever seeing what Petty has. However; if the coaching staff say he isn't the guy I can live with that.
The notion that he should sit is fluid. It's also the theory of many in the nfl, hall of famers and front office.

It comes from the point of view that college offenses are becoming overly simple to compensate for the lack of elite quarter backs in the system. If everyone taught a complex system but only 3 schools had qbs that could handle it, everyone else would suffer. So end result, majority of college qbs play 3 years in a system designed to make you think as little as possible.

Then you enter the nfl. Under the new cba,there is no time to practice and learn a system. Combined with the reality of today's musical chair free agency, it's hard to get all of your starters on the same page, much less your 3rd string qb who just got his play book.

So in reality riding the bench for a year in the 80s or 90s is equivalent to 2 years today. Except, while our system is evolving t to require more study time on the calendar, we are going in the opposite direction with how we treat draft picks. We don't want to from them into men, we want them to plug and play. Fail and you're a loser. That's why the average nfl players tenure is 3 years or less.

Of course petty's 3 years is based on insider quotes, but from what I've seen, I trust or new front office to handle petty the way he needs to be handled.

I haven't studied film with him so I'm not the expert.

But, if the book on him is that he has the physical gifts to do it all, but can't read a defense well, then he's in a great position under Fitz. Fitz has the mental capacity, the charisma, and the will to teach up teammates. If Fitz is anything it's book smart by nfl standards.

If Fitzs brains, and leadership ways rub off on petty to combine with his physical talent, watch out man. Frankenstein.

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mykcuz

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Jet Fanatics
YES, the Jets should make every effort to resign him to a cap friendly, mostly incentive based contract. Here's why:

1) He played much better than anyone would have thought.

2) THINK of the alternative?! Going with Geno Smith would surely ruin this entire offense and team.

3) He could be used as a very positive and knowledgeable resource for Bryce Petty and any other they draft in 2016.

Fitz was robbed in the Buffalo game as the WR's, especially Quincy Enunwa, dropped multiple passes. Fitz needs another WR with really good hands. I would say that option is Jeremy Kerley, but the Jets never use him.

With that said, beware of just how much they are willing to pay. The real Ryan Fitzpatrick showed up in Buffalo just in time to ruin our playoff hopes. He was inaccurate, he lacked the intelligence that he had shown at the LOS in past games, and when we really needed him to show up late in the game he went way too far throwing interception after interception.

But all told, I don't believe the Jets can do better in the interim. I also wonder just how good Fitz could be if he's given all of the weapons that a real offense has. A TE and FB? A top notch blocker working his way up the depth chart. WR depth that actually catches the ball.
You over simplify what happened. Rex is 8-1 against Fitz, he knows how to expose him. He played man press coverage taking away short throws, while rushing him with tremendous pressure, causing the need for short throws. The bitter cold and wind took away the deep ball. That leaves the perfect hole for ivory to pound the rock. Ivory got 6 touches. We need one more passing threat, with Amaro and Devin coming back next year, who knows if we have that guy already. And we need a running back we can trust in December to take advantage when the defense sells out to defend the pass.

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mykcuz

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Jet Fanatics
If Fitz doesn't have Marshall playing at a high level then his numbers are drastically different. This team is old in key spots and needs to get younger, faster and have an edge to them. It was a fun year and we tried to catch lightning in a bottle. We failed to make the playoffs and we have giant holes throughout the roster. Sign Fitz to a one year guaranteed contract and probably start him unless Petty or another rookie is ready.
Agreed, it was a nice start after a4 win season. But the truth is this roster had big holes, and this was the first year some key guys had in a new system. They didn't figure out what they had until almost week 6. Every team has holes, let's see if we can plug in some good pieces.

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LGM

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Why trade Geno or cut him when we own him on the cheap? He has NFL experience and there is no better deal out there for the jets.
If the JETS think that Petty is the future and want to re-sign Fitz for the present then we are set at QB. Cutting Geno would be stupid? Pick up that #3 next year.
This year is RB, OL, OL, LB, LB, BAP, BAP
I think because just about everyone recognizes that HE STINKS
 

usapaw

Rookie
Jet Fanatics
semantics..

mac robs someone for a conditional 7th, or cuts bait..

the end & thankfully so..

Please, MAC had a decent year but Fitz was hardly a steal; He was available to anyone that wanted him. BM was a steal. Devin Smith...not so much.
Is Geno a bum...probably but you have to pay him over 500K if you cut him. Another 500K and you have a 4th year vet who has real games under his belt. I'm not crazy about Geno either but this is a business decision. I say wait and see if Fitz walks, because you sure as heck don't franchise Fitz.
 
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