Slam dunks: 10 safest prospects in 2015 NFL Draft By Chase Goodbread

[Superman55]

Any safest list for this draft without Collins RT/OG LSU is missing the safest pick in the draft.

A guy so nasty he single blocked Fowler into the ground vs Florida is a safe bet to compete day 1 for an OT starting spot and can be plugged into any OG spot day 1 and play like Martin for the Cowboys. To me, he's the safest pick in the draft, where ever he goes. the definition of "plug and play."

 

[hobson54]

Just as a point of clarification, I didn't mean that the article itself suggested that. But, by the fact that neither QB appears in the 10-best list, that fact alone is suggestive neither one should be taken in the first 10 picks. And if the first 10 teams have a "best player available" strategy and they agree that the 10 players listed are in fact the best players, then neither QB should be selected in the top 10 selections. Of course I am sure they will in fact be chosen. I'm just hoping not by the Jets.

do you understand that this list is of the 10 "safest" picks, and not anything close to the top 10 players in the draft?

or do you really think laken tomlinson, a guard out of duke, is one of the 10 best players in this draft???

QBs are inherently risky. the top 2 this year have either off-field concerns or concerns about transitioning to a pro style offense. it's probably been since andrew luck that a QB entered the draft that wasn't seen as risky, and before that, probably matt ryan or maybe even peyton manning to get a sure-thing QB. so maybe you want to wait for the next andrew luck (and hope the jets are the worst team the season before he enters the draft) to get the non-risky QB.

now if you want to talk about top 10 player lists, you have these:

kiper - winston #2 and mariota #6
http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/mock/?season=2015&version=17&source=Mel-Kiper-Big-Board

mcshay - winston #1 and mariota #5
http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/mock/?season=2015&version=13&source=Todd-McShay-Top-32

 

[Football51]

Any safest list for this draft without Collins RT/OG LSU is missing the safest pick in the draft.

A guy so nasty he single blocked Fowler into the ground vs Florida is a safe bet to compete day 1 for an OT starting spot and can be plugged into any OG spot day 1 and play like Martin for the Cowboys. To me, he's the safest pick in the draft, where ever he goes. the definition of "plug and play."

I'm a huge fan. I agree with what you said, and Mayock has him as his #1 Tackle. He'd be a prime target for me if we could trade down(like with the Browns).

 

[Green Jets & Ham]

Any safest list for this draft without Collins RT/OG LSU is missing the safest pick in the draft.

A guy so nasty he single blocked Fowler into the ground vs Florida is a safe bet to compete day 1 for an OT starting spot and can be plugged into any OG spot day 1 and play like Martin for the Cowboys. To me, he's the safest pick in the draft, where ever he goes. the definition of "plug and play."

Thats a good one, Supe, I omitted him from my list, but you're probably right and I like the Martin comparison.

 

[Mainejet]

The fact is, this team CANNOT win with turnover machines like Geno Smith and Ryan Fitzpatrick. Fitz has been given numerous chances with a few teams now and every team is unable to transform into the real deal. So don't believe the hype that suddenly the Jets know something no one else did.
My hope is Geno is only here because he's under contract on the cheap and can serve as depth/competition. Fitz as a savvy veteran that can start in a pinch and teach a new young buck that the Jets draft. Hope that young buck starts sooner rather than later, because I want this team to win, not marinate as a terrible due to poor QB's.

 

[Superman55]

I'm a huge fan. I agree with what you said, and Mayock has him as his #1 Tackle. He'd be a prime target for me if we could trade down(like with the Browns).

He's one of my top 10 favorite prospects in this draft. If we trade down, 15 or lower, he'd be a top 3 target of mine...he's the kind of guy you want on your team...just so you dont have to face him. He'd also only get better vs our dline weekly.

 

[Superman55]

The fact is, this team CANNOT win with turnover machines like Geno Smith and Ryan Fitzpatrick. Fitz has been given numerous chances with a few teams now and every team is unable to transform into the real deal. So don't believe the hype that suddenly the Jets know something no one else did.
My hope is Geno is only here because he's under contract on the cheap and can serve as depth/competition. Fitz as a savvy veteran that can start in a pinch and teach a new young buck that the Jets draft. Hope that young buck starts sooner rather than later, because I want this team to win, not marinate as a terrible due to poor QB's.

Despite HYATT's wishful thinking, there really arent any QBs in this draft. So you can keep getting mad that you can't catch a marlin in the fresh water lake just down the street from your house, or you can take what you get out of the lake and move on to a new fishing hole next trip if you hope to catch a marlin, preferably the coast just off the Keys.

 

[sg3]

Despite HYATT's wishful thinking, there really arent any QBs in this draft. So you can keep getting mad that you can't catch a marlin in the fresh water lake just down the street from your house, or you can take what you get out of the lake and move on to a new fishing hole next trip if you hope to catch a marlin, preferably the coast just off the Keys.

You are right. There are only 2 QBS that you would consider at 6 and they will probably go 1 and 2.

There are some quarterbacks with decent development potential that will fall into the second round and later...Hundley, Petty, Grayson, Mannion...one of whom I hope MacBowles drafts.

 

[Superman55]

You are right. There are only 2 QBS that you would consider at 6 and they will probably go 1 and 2.

There are some quarterbacks with decent development potential that will fall into the second round and later...Hundley, Petty, Grayson, Mannion...one of whom I hope MacBowles drafts.

yeah, but do you waste your time drafting a developmental QB when you know we'll likely go into next year's draft eyeing QB again with our #1 pick again? The answer is yes, we'll likely take one some place in the draft...but the answer is also no, not likely for our long term future. More likely as a developmental project while we keep looking for the franchise guy.

There are several traditional pocket passers leading the 2016 race for top QB in the draft: Cook, Hackenberg, and Cardale Jones (if he starts, they're stacked at QB) all are better prospects than we've seen the last 3 years, IMO.

 

[sg3]

yeah, but do you waste your time drafting a developmental QB when you know we'll likely go into next year's draft eyeing QB again with our #1 pick again? The answer is yes, we'll likely take one some place in the draft...but the answer is also no, not likely for our long term future. More likely as a developmental project while we keep looking for the franchise guy.

Except if the development guy turns to gold like Wilson, Montana, Brady, Unitas, Warner and some others have

 

[hobson54]

yeah, but do you waste your time drafting a developmental QB when you know we'll likely go into next year's draft eyeing QB again with our #1 pick again? The answer is yes, we'll likely take one some place in the draft...but the answer is also no, not likely for our long term future. More likely as a developmental project while we keep looking for the franchise guy.

There are several traditional pocket passers leading the 2016 race for top QB in the draft: Cook, Hackenberg, and Cardale Jones (if he starts, they're stacked at QB) all are better prospects than we've seen the last 3 years, IMO.

well if those college QBs are as good as you say they are (and i am sold on hackenburg, think cook is pretty good, but not elite, and not sure on jones as a PRO prosepct), then they will be going in the top 5-10 of the draft. and hopefully the jets aren't planning to be picking in a spot where they can get an elite QB.

so i don't think you put off taking a QB today in hopes of finding a franchise QB next year. there no way of knowing if grayson (for example) turns out to be a better pro prospect than cardale jones (for example).

 

[maxmet]

this lists flags risk v safety

it doesnt address risk v reward

historically edge rushers are risky picks. Are they already OLBs? will they be asked to drop into coverage in ways they have not? does the team play a 4-3 or 3-4. Lots of issues about role and fit and aclimation.

To me that means risk and it means that it is more difficult to project many edge rushers. A RB will be asked to do mostly the same stuff in the NFL - well, he'll be asked to pick up blitz which he may not have done much in college - and he may be asked to catch passes which may have been rare. But his main job will be the same. Likewise a DB or an OL.

None of that means that we should not take an edge rusher

It means that the front office needs to scout and evaluate....the ghost of Gholston hovers

 

[Superman55]

Except if the development guy turns to gold like Wilson, Montana, Brady, Unitas, Warner and some others have

There are a handful of names that fall in that category, you probably just named almost all of them...and thousands of Qbs that didn't. I am guessing this regime will not assume drafting a guy 3rd rd or lower will become one of the first 10 franchise Qbs taken after rd 1 in NFL history that turns into Brady, Montana, Wilson as one of the all time greats...but I could be wrong...

 

[Sarge]

I love both Cooper and White, but by definition, a WR cannot be the safest prospect in the draft - their productivity is so closely tied to the overall effectiveness of the offense. Safest prospects to me are always linemen and maybe Linebackers. Agree that Williams is the safest prospect overall

 

[Savage69]

Is that really a person's name or stage name or corporation? Chase Goodbread? Really?

If you notice, he has not a single pass rushing nor QB prospect. Does he think they're all busts? Whatever.

I bet he has a RYE sense of humor..:hopelessness: