Sounds like Robby Anderson made a strong first impression

[Green Jets & Ham]

I know its only a rookie orientation, but as first impressions go it sounds like Robby Anderson made a good one. From everything I have been able to read and gather, his 4.3's speed has translated in this rookie camp, the kid is blowing by people and creating the kind of separation downfield that makes you take notice, and he has the size (6' 3"/190/4.34) Chan Gailey prefers from his WR's too, albeit he can add a little more weight. We'll see what it amounts too in mini camp and training camp, when the pads go on, but he seems to have made a strong first impression.

 

[flgreen]

I know its only a rookie orientation, but as first impressions go it sounds like Robby Anderson made a good one. From everything I have been able to read and gather, his 4.3's speed has translated in this rookie camp, the kid is blowing by people and creating the kind of separation downfield that makes you take notice, and he has the size (6' 3"/190/4.34) Chan Gailey prefers from his WR's too, albeit he can add a little more weight. We'll see what it amounts too in mini camp and training camp, when the pads go on, but he seems to have made a strong first impression.

Agree.

Of course I didn't see the practice, but from the tweets it seems like he made some nice catches also. A 6'3", 4.3 guy who can catch?

I'm going to hold my breath and see if he can do it again in OTA's against real DB's. if he and Peake can continue to do it. OH Boy

 

[Mainejet]

I know its only a rookie orientation, but as first impressions go it sounds like Robby Anderson made a good one. From everything I have been able to read and gather, his 4.3's speed has translated in this rookie camp, the kid is blowing by people and creating the kind of separation downfield that makes you take notice, and he has the size (6' 3"/190/4.34) Chan Gailey prefers from his WR's too, albeit he can add a little more weight. We'll see what it amounts too in mini camp and training camp, when the pads go on, but he seems to have made a strong first impression.

That sounds great Ham, but how does that translate to helping us? Maybe down the road it could, but certainly not this season the way I see things. Fitz will most likely be resigned and I agree with resigning him. He's hands down the very best option for the Jets this season at QB.

However, Fitz is not a long ball thrower. As you have said in the past, he's a got a chicken wing for an arm. A healthier version of Chad Pennington IMO. Fitz lacks the physical traits to exploit going over the top of the defense. We saw that all of last season. Devin Smith is another burner and whenever Smith got loose last season either Smith couldn't catch the ball but most of the time Fitz couldn't hit him long. So I suppose having these speedsters around will be a good thing for the future assuming they can catch the ball (Devin Smith dropped a lot of passes last season). But at least for this season, I do not see Smith or Anderson adding any extra dimension to the Jets passing game, that's not the QB's game.

 

[flgreen]

That sounds great Ham, but how does that translate to helping us? Maybe down the road it could, but certainly not this season the way I see things. Fitz will most likely be resigned and I agree with resigning him. He's hands down the very best option for the Jets this season at QB.

However, Fitz is not a long ball thrower. As you have said in the past, he's a got a chicken wing for an arm. A healthier version of Chad Pennington IMO. Fitz lacks the physical traits to exploit going over the top of the defense. We saw that all of last season. Devin Smith is another burner and whenever Smith got loose last season either Smith couldn't catch the ball but most of the time Fitz couldn't hit him long. So I suppose having these speedsters around will be a good thing for the future assuming they can catch the ball (Devin Smith dropped a lot of passes last season). But at least for this season, I do not see Smith or Anderson adding any extra dimension to the Jets passing game, that's not the QB's game.

LOL

C'mon MJ. The Jets just had 2 late round/UDFA WR flash in rookie mini camp. Good vibe.


Not really sure it's the thread to re-hash all the Jets' woes.:global (36):[TWEET][/TWEET]

 

[OCCH]

Not really sure it's the thread to re-hash all the Jets' woes.:global (36):[TWEET][/TWEET]

Maine's never met a thread he couldn't drive straight to SOJF-ville . . .

 

[Mainejet]

Well, isn't it a fair question? That's the way I see It. If you have guys that can take the top off the defense, but no QB to get the guys the ball, then how often are those guys taking the top off the defense???? It's about as useful as someone owning a Ferrari and living in Maine. Or someone owning a Ford Raptor and living in NYC. Or a submarine with screen doors...

 

[Bronx]

Well, isn't it a fair question? That's the way I see It. If you have guys that can take the top off the defense, but no QB to get the guys the ball, then how often are those guys taking the top off the defense???? It's about as useful as someone owning a Ferrari and living in Maine. Or someone owning a Ford Raptor and living in NYC. Or a submarine with screen doors...

Yes, cut them

 

[OCCH]

Well, isn't it a fair question? That's the way I see It. If you have guys that can take the top off the defense, but no QB to get the guys the ball, then how often are those guys taking the top off the defense???? It's about as useful as someone owning a Ferrari and living in Maine. Or someone owning a Ford Raptor and living in NYC. Or a submarine with screen doors...

So you honestly think the defense will let these guys run free down the sideline because they're "pretty sure Fitz can't reach that far"?

Even if they're often used as decoys, the defense still has to account for them, opening up the rest of the field . . .

 

[Old#15]

If nothing else, it will make for some preseason fun having Geno, Petty and Hack airing it out to these guys. Maybe we can stash them on practice squad until one of the young guys with an arm is starting in 2017.

 

[flgreen]

Well, isn't it a fair question? That's the way I see It. If you have guys that can take the top off the defense, but no QB to get the guys the ball, then how often are those guys taking the top off the defense???? It's about as useful as someone owning a Ferrari and living in Maine. Or someone owning a Ford Raptor and living in NYC. Or a submarine with screen doors...

Where as Fitz certainly doesn't have what is considered a "big" NFL arm. the arm weakness is way over exaggerated.




That ball traveled 55 yards in the air. Hit it's target.

Not to mention that Peake and Anderson are 21-22 YO. The Jets have 2 young QB's on the team that can throw a ball through a brick wall. If either of them can play football, this is not a problem

 

[Mainejet]

So you honestly think the defense will let these guys run free down the sideline because they're "pretty sure Fitz can't reach that far"?

Even if they're often used as decoys, the defense still has to account for them, opening up the rest of the field . . .

No, but I don't think it's a stretch to say they won't give it as much attention. Defenses strategize to take away what the QB does best. They always try to force the QB to do something he's not accustomed to doing or something he does not do well. That Defense 101.

So adding players that can take the top off the defense is great when you can utilize it. That will help down the road when/if we get a QB that can hit speedster players in stride. That's NOT this season.

In fact, it bears mentioning....

WHEN did Fitz actually ever hit a WR over the top? I recall ONCE against the Miami Dolphins. He hit Marshall for a 58? yard gainer? The London game I think? But even then Marshall almost slowed to a complete stop in order to catch a ball that Fitz had put everything he had into.

 

[Mainejet]

Where as Fitz certainly doesn't have what is considered a "big" NFL arm. the arm weakness is way over exaggerated.




That ball traveled 55 yards in the air. Hit it's target.

Not to mention that Peake and Anderson are 21-22 YO. The Jets have 2 young QB's on the team that can throw a ball through a brick wall. If either of them can play football, this is not a problem

Well, like I said the youngsters we don't know anything about right now other than they do have much stronger arms than Fitz. So those kids could be weapons for us down the road. With that said, I can't see them helping us at all in 2016. 2017?

 

[Jet Fan RI]

No, but I don't think it's a stretch to say they won't give it as much attention. Defenses strategize to take away what the QB does best. They always try to force the QB to do something he's not accustomed to doing or something he does not do well. That Defense 101.

So adding players that can take the top off the defense is great when you can utilize it. That will help down the road when/if we get a QB that can hit speedster players in stride. That's NOT this season.

In fact, it bears mentioning....

WHEN did Fitz actually ever hit a WR over the top? I recall ONCE against the Miami Dolphins. He hit Marshall for a 58? yard gainer? The London game I think? But even then Marshall almost slowed to a complete stop in order to catch a ball that Fitz had put everything he had into.

Doesn't look that way to me. Fitz pretty much hit Marshall in stride.

 

[hobson54]

wsith devin smith missing most of the year, the jets didn't really have any WRs that could take off the top of the defense. so it's hard to just say fitz couldn't make that throw when they didn't have a great deep threat.

while not a huge sample size, in houston, in 2014, he was 3/5 in passes thrown 31-40 yards and 2/4 in passes thrown 41+ yards. in 2013, he was 3/9 in 31-40 and 1/2 in 41+.

now the long ball will never be his forte. but he can make downfield throws on occasion.

of course, these late round picks and UDFAs are probably long shots to contribute this year anyway. not because of fitz, but just because by definition, they are long shots. however, should they prove to be quality players, our young QBs have the arm strength to hit the deep ball.

 

[DonMaynard]

Speed is speed. A WR doesn't necessarily have to always run fly patterns to get open. An example of that was how well Pennington and Coles used to hook up.

 

[lounap23]

Well, isn't it a fair question? That's the way I see It. If you have guys that can take the top off the defense, but no QB to get the guys the ball, then how often are those guys taking the top off the defense???? It's about as useful as someone owning a Ferrari and living in Maine. Or someone owning a Ford Raptor and living in NYC. Or a submarine with screen doors...

For the record Randy Moss has said numerous times that Chad Pennington is the only QB to never underthrow him.... Don't need a strong arm to be a great deep pass QB... You just have to know how to time your throw perfectly..... And If I remember correctly wasn't Pennington top 5 QB all time in passer ratin for passes over 25 yds

 

[OCCH]

No, but I don't think it's a stretch to say they won't give it as much attention. Defenses strategize to take away what the QB does best. They always try to force the QB to do something he's not accustomed to doing or something he does not do well. That Defense 101.

So adding players that can take the top off the defense is great when you can utilize it. That will help down the road when/if we get a QB that can hit speedster players in stride. That's NOT this season.

In fact, it bears mentioning....

WHEN did Fitz actually ever hit a WR over the top? I recall ONCE against the Miami Dolphins. He hit Marshall for a 58? yard gainer? The London game I think? But even then Marshall almost slowed to a complete stop in order to catch a ball that Fitz had put everything he had into.

No one is arguing that the deep ball is a strength in Fitz's skill set. But the idea that it's "pointless to have fast players because we can't get the ball to them anyway" is foolish at best. I assure you if the defense doesn't bother guarding the deep ball, we will take advantage of it regardless of who we have behind center.

Unless your argument is we should only draft/sign SLOW players? I'd be interested in hearing your logic behind that one . . .

 

[usapaw]

Where as Fitz certainly doesn't have what is considered a "big" NFL arm. the arm weakness is way over exaggerated.




That ball traveled 55 yards in the air. Hit it's target.

Not to mention that Peake and Anderson are 21-22 YO. The Jets have 2 young QB's on the team that can throw a ball through a brick wall. If either of them can play football, this is not a problem

Nice; one time he actually made the throw and skip the 50x he missed. Fitz's deep ball is crap, he throws the ball in the vicinity (with any luck) and hopes somehow Decker or Marshall comes down with it. I like Fitz (for 7 million/1 yr) but he has no one fearing his deep ball.

 

[mykcuz]

Well, isn't it a fair question? That's the way I see It. If you have guys that can take the top off the defense, but no QB to get the guys the ball, then how often are those guys taking the top off the defense???? It's about as useful as someone owning a Ferrari and living in Maine. Or someone owning a Ford Raptor and living in NYC. Or a submarine with screen doors...

You clearly don't know what you're talking about, there's ford raptors all over NYC. And nj.

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[mykcuz]

For the record Randy Moss has said numerous times that Chad Pennington is the only QB to never underthrow him.... Don't need a strong arm to be a great deep pass QB... You just have to know how to time your throw perfectly..... And If I remember correctly wasn't Pennington top 5 QB all time in passer ratin for passes over 25 yds

Chad threw to Randy before destroying his shoulder.

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