out of curiosity, would you rank pennington's (before the shoulder injuries) arm strength north or south of fitzpatrick's??
fairly close for me but i would vote south..
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fairly close for me but i would vote south..
I honestly don't think I know. It's really hard to judge because of so many factors.
I'd say they are both less than average. But you also see qbs who can they're 50 yards no problem, but then if they do it a couple times, their arms are fatigued.
I would say Fitz can own mid field throws, and take advantage of bad coverage over the top here and there.
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OK. Well, if that's true and all is fine with Fitz. He can in fact bomb the field like the US did Japan in WWII, THEN WHY IS THERE ONLY ONE HIGHLIGHT TO MENTION OF FITZ GOING LONG? Better yet, WHY did Marshall have to come to a near complete stop just to catch the ball????
It's never used because Fitz sucks at it.... That's the truth.......
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100% for show and nothing else. A status symbol for a$$hole democrats....
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Are you actually reading my posts or are you just looking to argue??? I posted it's good for the Jets DOWN THE ROAD....
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Yes. Fitz and the speedy guys could possibly build some chemistry with underneath routes, sure. But their ability to stretch the field will not be utilized so long as Fitz is the QB.
Most yes, but nj is actually still majority forest and farms.
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YOu missed the point.......My comment wasn't about FITZ being able to throw a deep ball. The point is a QB doesn't need to have a cannon of an arm to be good at throwing the deep ball. If he doesn't have a strong arm he needs to make up the difference with timing and precision...... Something Fitz can work on to be better at.....
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I think my problem is that I DO read your posts instead of ignoring them.
You think it's a "waste" to have these guys while Fitz is our QB. I argue that it's NEVER a bad thing to have speed on the field (especially if there's a semblance of talent to go with it).
Can Fitz maximize their potential? Probably not. But that's a FAR cry from "sunblock for Eskimos" or whatever other foolish analogy you try to defend . . .
But he didn't.
Its' called hyperbole
It's called MaineJet . . .
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So how much more work does he need to be better at it? How many years has he been in the league now?
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He had to slow down and allow the corner to catch back up with him and actually bumped Marshall while in the process of catching the ball. Fitz SUCKS at throwing the long ball and meanwhile you're all butt hurt about it? The facts are what they are. I don't make them up, I merely point in out. Then, you in response bold face LIE about it and give off this impression like it's something entirely different.
Rest assured everyone in this thread..... These are the facts:
1) Fitz is NOT a long ball thrower. Never has been, never will be. Can he hit a big pass every once in a blue moon? Well, yes... But that certainly does NOT constitute being a consistent NFL long ball threat. That's the dumbest sh*t I've ever heard.
2) The speed players will be important for the future when/if the Jets find a guy with the arm strength to hit players in stride. As for right now? Their long play ability will never be utilized.
This isn't about how long he has been in the league... This about how much chemistry and timing he build with the WR's. That can take a year or two.... Aaron Rodgers struggled a bit last year with DaVante Adams when healthy and the young WR corp he was playing with..... If you want to pick on Fitz and his week arm.. Fine no argument here. My point is you don't need a strong arm to throw deep in the NFL if you know when to throw the ball to an open WR.... A few people knocked Devin Smith for not fighting for the ball last year on throw where Fitz under threw him but if Fits lets the ball go 2 yds earlier in Smiths route he hits him in stride as he is wide open and mostly likely goes for a long TD..... That timing and that chemistry between QB and WR is what needs to happen... NOT a big arm..... Now if we had a QB with a big arm it makes up for not having to have perfect timing..... Geno has a big arm probably has strong as Hackenbergs... but all of the other qualities are missing... Poket awareness, getting rid of the ball quick, smart decision making..... give me a Chad Pennington, Ryan Fitzpatick over Geno Smith any day... Cause by the end of the year you could see Fitz was hitting guys in stride on the deep passes better than he was in the first part of the year.
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He's never built any chemistry with any team or any WR in regards to a long game. NEVER. That is not his strength. It is very clearly his biggest WEAKNESS. And yes, it is about how many years he's been in the league because if he hasn't created a long game with any WR in his entire 11 season career that kind of lends itself to my point.
And I agree with you that I would much rather have Ryan Fitzpatrick be our QB than Geno. But lets tell the truth here....Even Geno has a better long arm than Fitz will ever have. It's for every other reason in the world that I want Fitz as the starter.
This post is merely acknowledging how limited Ryan Fitzpatrick truly is and I think the sooner everyone else realizes it, the sooner they'll start to have realistic expectations for the team.
I get your point and believe me I am ready for the Bryce Petty Era!!!....Hackenberg needs his year or two on the bench.... I was arguing the weak arm/deep ball angle nothing about Fitz.
I think the one angle everyone is missing here, because they are looking at it from the opposite paradigm, is the Jets FO and CS may feel Petty is at the point to prove his worth. And they are completely ready to move on from Fitz. With Hackenberg being the next guy up if Petty fails... and Geno is that veteran safety net and I use that term super lightly.
You highjacked this entire thread. The thread is about one of those fast guys looking good in a rookie camp. The thread is NOT about a "weak-armed" QB who, I might add, is not even on the frickin roster.
So, no, wondering if it may be foolish to draft fast guys because a Quarterback- who doesn't play for your team- can't throw that far is not a legitimate concern. It is the concern of someone who doesn't think before they speak.
Old cannon arm Montana sure could go deep, and did you see Brady throw that 80 yard bomb last year? 2 goats, 8 super bowls 0 deep balls.
It's about an offense that utilizes it's players well, and those players being smart enough to get open.
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