Steelers Might Need Significant Jump to Draft Malik Willis

skop

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great minds think alike... I believe Travon is versatile replica of JFM can lineup at DE or IDL...
I also like Logan Hall as a tie at 2nd best overall with Karlaftis...
KT has questions about his "Fire"?
Hutch & Ojabo are 1 year wonders...

his body type seems to be one that could add 25 lbs w/o taking away bend or speed... i love the twitch + power.
ON EDIT... +1 on the critique of the other guys!
 

Tinstar

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actually Trey McBride if he is still on the board would be an ideal get there...
20 Travon Walker UGA
consideration for Jahan Dotson at 20 being he has been mocked from 23 - 34...
we will see how he is mocked after the Combine & Pro Days...
but those are three I believe are viable...
Couldn’t we use a couple of those 2nd rounders to move up to 32 with the Lions and take McBride if he’s still there or even Winfrey
 

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When you talk about point value, #4 = 1800. That goes out the window when you talk about trading for a QB. The Jets will get much more to include two #1's, two or three #2's, etc when trading back to #20.
 

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Couldn’t we use a couple of those 2nd rounders to move up to 32 with the Lions and take McBride if he’s still there or even Winfrey
we could but maximizing the draft by simple trade downs while still available to take NEEDs over BPA
if we end up picking 20th & 31st no need to come back into the first round as our selections and moves cause a ripple effect that benefits us...

at 32, 33 & 34 even if lets say Trey McBride, Perrion Winfrey & Jahan Dotson came off the board then the Jets get Zion Johnson or Jalen Pitre but the mocks yet to be more realistic until the combine results are in, then updates on any positive or negatives on said prospects...

Problem with tweener prospects teams could take them in the first round and all five those are listed as potential sleeper first round picks...
 

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When you talk about point value, #4 = 1800. That goes out the window when you talk about trading for a QB. The Jets will get much more to include two #1's, two or three #2's, etc when trading back to #20.
you are wrong...
the value for a QB is in the first three picks not the fourth...
this is a response by several people not just me...
 

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from what I understood from the conversation that was had that if the Steelers do make a move, Joe Douglas would accept the terms I stated... BUT if another team comes into the mix additional picks will be needed to sweeten the deal...

last year we moved up originally were offering a 3rd and 4th to move up to Vikings 14th but the Steelers and one other team came into frame and Joe Douglas instead of posturing just offered up both 3rds to seal the deal...
 

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we could but maximizing the draft by simple trade downs while still available to take NEEDs over BPA
if we end up picking 20th & 31st no need to come back into the first round as our selections and moves cause a ripple effect that benefits us...

at 32, 33 & 34 even if lets say Trey McBride, Perrion Winfrey & Jahan Dotson came off the board then the Jets get Zion Johnson or Jalen Pitre but the mocks yet to be more realistic until the combine results are in, then updates on any positive or negatives on said prospects...

Problem with tweener prospects teams could take them in the first round and all five those are listed as potential sleeper first round picks...
I really do like Pitre but I don’t think we have a snow balls chance in hades of getting him with additional 2nd round picks.
 

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I really do like Pitre but I don’t think we have a snow balls chance in hades of getting him with additional 2nd round picks.
I think Pitre could be picked with the 35th selection, just a feeling! I believe the team like Strange more than Zion Johnson... Also believe the Jets like Ruckert, Barry and Ferguson more than McBride but in the end taking the top dog if he is there is an option...
 

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key here is hoping that multiple teams are interested in moving up for a QB (or otherwise) - need two bidders to pump it up

wanna get ahead of WashComms? we are here to talk with you, etc
 

skop

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great minds think alike... I believe Travon is versatile replica of JFM can lineup at DE or IDL...

Daniel Jeremiah has Travon going to the Gmen at #5 in his latest mock... this cat is officially out of the bag.
 

Seaver41

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but is a JFM replica what the Jets need? JFM has produced better inside, wouldn't we want a more pure edge guy?
 

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but is a JFM replica what the Jets need? JFM has produced better inside, wouldn't we want a more pure edge guy?
if JFM moves inside permanently who is the new EDGE? (DE)
if JFM stays on the outside who is the new inside (IDL)?
we don't know
we also don't know what or how Carl Lawson will be after recovery?
so technically right now we have Q. & JFM on a 4 man line...
drafting a similar makeup to JFM who has that explosiveness off the snap and athleticism to track and pursue who has consistently produced over his college career -- wouldn't he fit...
understanding the design and having interchangeable options so you don't miss a beat...
I doubt they re-sign Foley, I am on the shelf on Sheperd so technically it leaves us a hole to fill and to me he fits what we need and what we do...
 

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Would love to stir up some QB drama, some trade scenarios I've been kicking around.

Trading down from 4
Falcons
- trade down with the Falcon to #8 + Ridley

Commanders - Washington for 2022 #11 & 2023 First

Steelers - Steelers would be quite the drop, would need to include a massive haul of picks - most of which I'd love to push off to 2023.

Trading down from 10
Commanders
- Swap picks from 10 to 11 so Commanders don't have someone jump them. Cost a 3rd round pick and we can still make the pick we wanted at 10

Saints - 18 + Thomas + Conditional 2023 pick

Steelers - 20 + 2023 First + Claypool
 
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