the elephant in the room..

mykcuz

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It is STUPIDITY if he slept on a VERY important decision......
Sorry Maine,I just think stupid is not the right word. Stupid would be him sitting there and intentional making an ill advised decision. To me, he was caught up in something and it was to late to realize his coaches didn't go for 2. A lot of these things are discussed all week in game planning, and honestly should be talking in the headsets during the drive. "Ok guys if we score on this drive with more than a minute left,we go for 2,etc. "

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Rex Ryan in 7 seasons as a head coach has two winning seasons.
Bowles in just one season is already halfway there.
 
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Well Bowles also took Rex's 4 win Jets to a10 win record(80% chance of making playoffs) with Fitz as his qb and no te. Rex got every playmaker he wanted in Buffalo and went from Doug marones 10 wins down to 8, and is now 0-2 with Arizona and the Patriots coming up, and the owners firing his coaches...

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And Rex took Eric Mangini's 9-7 Jets to two consecutive AFC championship games. Come see when Todd Bowles comes even close to such a feat..............You see how easy that is? We can go round and round forever. Your belief that Bowles is a better HC than Rex is just that, your BELIEF and nothing more. Objectively speaking, Todd Bowles is all but a rookie HC that has made some pretty dumb in game decisions. He did go 10-6 in his rookie season after his GM spent approximately 50 million dollars on expensive top notch free agents. This was a benefit that Rex never got.........
 

mykcuz

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Rex Ryan in 7 seasons as a head coach has two winning seasons.
Bowles in just one season is already halfway there.
Devils advocate,rex won in his first year too, in fact every jet coach back to parcels,won in their first year.

It's hard to compare. The knock on rex is exactly what the nfl,and Bowles do. They leave offensive play calling to the coordinator and spend a lot of time with the defense. Bowles does it too, Gailey is running the plays from the booth and had almost full autonomy. The problem with rex,was hiring bad coordinators. But who's available is also a factor.

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And Rex took Eric Mangini's 9-7 Jets to two consecutive AFC championship games. Come see when Todd Bowles comes even close to such a feat..............You see how easy that is? We can go round and round forever. Your belief that Bowles is a better HC than Rex is just that, your BELIEF and nothing more. Objectively speaking, Todd Bowles is all but a rookie HC that has made some pretty dumb in game decisions. He did go 10-6 in his rookie season after his GM spent approximately 50 million dollars on expensive top notch free agents. This was a benefit that Rex never got.........
It was a benefit he got in Buffalo wroth the best line in the nfl and went downhill from Doug Marrone.

You make a lot of assumptions and make it impossible to have an intelligent conversation.

I started by saying,"devils advocate" and never stated who I think is better. So you come off"stupid" to use your language.

I liked rex a lot and it's hard to compare the 2 when Bowles has 18 games under his belt. There's pros and cons for both and honestly I think we would have made the playoffs last year with rex coaching his 7th year if he had Gailey and Mac daddy do exactly what they did. They fired him then gave Bowles exactly what they withheld from rex.

Who is truly better will only tell in time. Bill belichick has people saying he's the same bad coach from Cleveland, I think he's proven himself.

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And that makes Todd Bowles a better HC than Rex because Todd Bowles is 1-2 against Rex and because Bowles won the most recent match, it makes Bowles a better HC? That's the dumbest sh*t I've ever heard. Come see when Bowles last 6 seasons in NY and even after he finally is fired there is still huge debate as to whose fault the lack of player talent was. Until then, this is pure dingbat drivel. Rex has 7 seasons of bring a HC under his belt, Todd Bowles has ONE.

Dumb shit, dingbat drivel.

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Well Bowles also took Rex's 4 win Jets to a10 win record(80% chance of making playoffs) with Fitz as his qb and no te. Rex got every playmaker he wanted in Buffalo and went from Doug marones 10 wins down to 8, and is now 0-2 with Arizona and the Patriots coming up, and the owners firing his coaches...

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Wins don't matter.

This was a conversation that was beaten like a dead horse some time ago. Evidently, record means nothing, and only head-to-head matters. So when the Bills won both games last year and went 8-8, while the Jets went 10-6, record meant nothing. Only head to head.

But this last head-to-head doesn't matter. This one doesn't count. Only the ones Rex won.
 

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And Rex took Eric Mangini's 9-7 Jets to two consecutive AFC championship games. Come see when Todd Bowles comes even close to such a feat..............You see how easy that is? We can go round and round forever. Your belief that Bowles is a better HC than Rex is just that, your BELIEF and nothing more. Objectively speaking, Todd Bowles is all but a rookie HC that has made some pretty dumb in game decisions. He did go 10-6 in his rookie season after his GM spent approximately 50 million dollars on expensive top notch free agents. This was a benefit that Rex never got.........

Well, he went 9-7 his first year, so that was the same record.
 

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If you want to be a Rex guy, fine. I have no problem with that.

If you want to be a Rex guy who bashes Bowles' gameday decisions, though, you may want to rethink that. Rex is AWFUL about using his challenges. We saw evidence of that in the Jets game where he used a challenge that would have gotten him only a moderately small gain in a not-huge spot. It reminded me of him foolishly wasting a similar challenge last year in one of his first games with Buffalo, against the Pats, where he squandered a challenge for no good reason.

If you want to bash Bowles for gametime decisions, look in your own house, as well.
 

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Rex's flaws have been exposed. His best quality was he had players play their heart for him but that isn't the case anymore so as a coach, he's useless imo
 
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If you want to be a Rex guy, fine. I have no problem with that.

If you want to be a Rex guy who bashes Bowles' gameday decisions, though, you may want to rethink that. Rex is AWFUL about using his challenges. We saw evidence of that in the Jets game where he used a challenge that would have gotten him only a moderately small gain in a not-huge spot. It reminded me of him foolishly wasting a similar challenge last year in one of his first games with Buffalo, against the Pats, where he squandered a challenge for no good reason.

If you want to bash Bowles for gametime decisions, look in your own house, as well.

So who is the Rex guy that bashes Bowles?? I responded to someone else's post by saying Bowles sleeping on going for 2 was stupidity and I stand by that. The extremity of the word? I am not concerned about.

I never mentioned Rex once in my original post? So where you are coming up with card stacking comparison in reference to what I posted?

However, if you want to go there, I am game....... Rex went to two straight AFC Championships in his 1st two seasons in town. That is something that Todd Bowles will NEVER achieve. Therefore, unless he wins a SB with the Jets (fat chance), he has already lost any card stacking comparison you may want to make.

BTW, instead of constantly getting teary eyed over what mean old Mainejet posts, perhaps you should reread Ham's post. He refers to Bowles mistake as BIG. So I called it stupidity, Ham calls it a "BIG mistake". Once again I'll leave it up to you to complain about my using stupidity in reference to Bowles, but I am not concerned about it..........
 

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If you want to be a Rex guy, fine. I have no problem with that.

If you want to be a Rex guy who bashes Bowles' gameday decisions, though, you may want to rethink that. Rex is AWFUL about using his challenges. We saw evidence of that in the Jets game where he used a challenge that would have gotten him only a moderately small gain in a not-huge spot. It reminded me of him foolishly wasting a similar challenge last year in one of his first games with Buffalo, against the Pats, where he squandered a challenge for no good reason.

If you want to bash Bowles for gametime decisions, look in your own house, as well.
I think rex had the reputation of the worst in game manager when he was here.

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So who is the Rex guy that bashes Bowles?? I responded to someone else's post by saying Bowles sleeping on going for 2 was stupidity and I stand by that. The extremity of the word? I am not concerned about.

I never mentioned Rex once in my original post? So where you are coming up with card stacking comparison in reference to what I posted?

However, if you want to go there, I am game....... Rex went to two straight AFC Championships in his 1st two seasons in town. That is something that Todd Bowles will NEVER achieve. Therefore, unless he wins a SB with the Jets (fat chance), he has already lost any card stacking comparison you may want to make.

BTW, instead of constantly getting teary eyed over what mean old Mainejet posts, perhaps you should reread Ham's post. He refers to Bowles mistake as BIG. So I called it stupidity, Ham calls it a "BIG mistake". Once again I'll leave it up to you to complain about my using stupidity in reference to Bowles, but I am not concerned about it..........

I don't even care. You've shown where you stand, no matter what happens.

I called out Bowles for his poor decision. My point was that Rex is also a horrible game manager, so bashing Bowles and praising Rex is hypocritical.
 
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