Lets hope Hackenberg does not end up like the Hindenburg & both end up burning in NJ.
"oh the humanity Hackenberg"
"oh the humanity Hackenberg"
The Jets select Christian Hackenberg with the 51st pick
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excelling, not game managing in a pro style offense as an 18 year old kid is obviously very impressive.. i believe it's possible hackenberg can be a plug & play rookie.. but the only reason we were in position to draft the kid is because he played in an ass backwards program his last two seasons..i can't see the jets exacerbate the situation even further by playing him before he's ready..
but if hackenberg is ready..... oh baby!!
Exactly right, Brick. I'm glad we have a guy running the show with Mac's scouting bona fides, and I'm glad he shows the courage of his convictions with the moves he makes, like drafting Hack irrespective of the "noise" surrounding him. So who cares what those hacks say, anyway?
It is especially encouraging as far as Hackenberg is concerned, that the really knowledgeable people that spent a lot of time either with CH or at least evaluating and breaking him down, don't just like him, they love him. That "Film Room" piece was awesome, and the smarts CH already has wr to recognizing what defenses are doing is incredible at his age, and imho bodes really well for his chances of developing into a top flight - dare I say franchise? - QB.
Hackenberg is way more ready than Petty was coming out and probably way more ready to play than Petty is now.
Got to give big mac credit he is his own man....I think
I was surprised to see 26 of the predicted 32 starting QBs this upcoming season played at least a portion of their rookie season. (Now that includes Goff/Wentz as well as Sanchez/Smith, but it's still a higher proportion than I expected.)
Makes you wonder if "starting a kid too early ruins him" or if "starting an inadequate kid simply confirms he's inadequate a little quicker" (if that made any sense!)
If Hack needs time to heal old wounds, so be it. But it seems like he not only had to endure a horrid OL, but also instruction that went against his natural instinct (like footwork). We're not asking him to try something new, just to go back to what worked for him to begin with. . . .
Bottom line here is this. I wanted a QB so the competition for the starting spot is high. I am no professional scout but I had this years QBs ranked like this
1. Wentz
2. Hackenberg
3. Goff
4. Cook
5. JOnes
6. Lynch
MAc had his rankings and I have to assume he had Hackenberg higher than Lynch
For weeks you have been saying we need to pick a QB, we did. Maybe not the guy you liked best but again, I'm assuming, you aren't a professional NFL scout. So I think we all have to trust Macc and his scouting staff on Hackenberg.... Remember when people didn't like Russel Wilson and others doubted Blake Bortles... So bottom line is we wanted a QB we got one....
you might be right.. I hope both kids light it up in this upcoming "must watch" preseason..
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freshman year: Hackenberg was the perfect prospect, then
sophomore year: new coach, no talent on the offensive line
junior year: same coach, still no talent on the offensive line
this kid showed us in his first year that he can take snaps under center or in shotgun... he showed ability to scan defenses looking for his open target... he showed off his dime dropping accuracy not only short and intermediate passing routes but deep down the field pin point accuracy... his awareness was also on display showing instinctive ability when to tuck n run when the pressure collapsed the pocket... he also is aware enough to slide instead of taking unnecessary hits... this is the kid Maccagnan drafted with the 51st overall pick...
any prospect that had those two horrid years in an offense with no offensive line talent and coach's game plan that didn't help the lack of talent should pack up and run for the hills but CH didn't do that he got up and lined up his offense and tried to execute again and again, why? the reason why this kid showed his toughness and his willingness to compete, right here is why we should hope he can shed the last two seasons and continue his growth...
yes, I hope Petty also gets out of his own way and shows his true potential then we will have finally one signal caller that can be the face of the franchise while having that trade chip that we never had before...
at the end of the day whomever wants it that bad will take it, until then lets enjoy the ride because it looks to be a bumpy one...
sophomore year: new coach, no talent on the offensive line
junior year: same coach, still no talent on the offensive line
this kid showed us in his first year that he can take snaps under center or in shotgun... he showed ability to scan defenses looking for his open target... he showed off his dime dropping accuracy not only short and intermediate passing routes but deep down the field pin point accuracy... his awareness was also on display showing instinctive ability when to tuck n run when the pressure collapsed the pocket... he also is aware enough to slide instead of taking unnecessary hits... this is the kid Maccagnan drafted with the 51st overall pick...
any prospect that had those two horrid years in an offense with no offensive line talent and coach's game plan that didn't help the lack of talent should pack up and run for the hills but CH didn't do that he got up and lined up his offense and tried to execute again and again, why? the reason why this kid showed his toughness and his willingness to compete, right here is why we should hope he can shed the last two seasons and continue his growth...
yes, I hope Petty also gets out of his own way and shows his true potential then we will have finally one signal caller that can be the face of the franchise while having that trade chip that we never had before...
at the end of the day whomever wants it that bad will take it, until then lets enjoy the ride because it looks to be a bumpy one...
I agree but I did not say just a pick, trade FA or whatever he did. the only problem I have with the pick is the Stevie Wonder problem. I hope he can hit his Rec's & not the fans in the stands
103 Sacks, probably close to 200+ hits, hard hits, and the kid just kept getting back up and competing.
COOL HAND HACK
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You are right & we must trust the Gm & scouts. one of these years.....but it really means we need another young QB next year in the draft
Hackenberg's MO coming out of high school and his freshman year were that he makes strong throws and trusts his receivers to make the catch. He had Allen Robinson his freshman year, basically ran the Pats offense. I would say that most Penn State fans/students/alumni were shocked that a guy who went 1-11 the year before at Vanderbilt was the choice. He has two terrible recruiting years, dumbed down an offense (Hackenberg is an intelligent qb) Hackenberg was the guy I wanted out of this draft. If Fitz signs, he sits the bench, yes. If Fitz doesnt, I would not be suprised this kid starting the opener against the Bengals. People who keep ripping him havent watched his past two years. This kid is big and tough, and kept picking himself up. His ability to throw the ball knowing he is about to get smcked in the mouth is something we haven't had here in 25 years.
I am not as concerned with his accuracy as much as others. I have watched a lot Penn St games and it is a concern just not a major one here is why:
1. His OL was absolutely awful. A lot of throws were to avoid the sack, forced way earlier than the timing of the play.
2. Lots of dropped passes due to the terrible talent around him... Allen robinson was the only Wr this guy ever had.
3. The offensive system at Penn St is really terrible... Even a superior OL and WR group wouldn't helped that much.
My main concern is the Kids confidence..... Penn St destroyed that and will he play scared in the Poker ALA Sam Bradford.
yep this^^
lets hope we won't have games on Halloween...BOO......I saw some passes that were out of this world from him......& that is not a good thing/////LOL But lets pray Radar is allowed at the stadiums over the next few years. they may need to warn people in the first few rows about the danger or put up safety nets.....incoming.......Maybe put a bulls eye on the back of jet rec's. Plus get Tebow in to work on his passing. But the good news is we are not a Shea the planes can safely fly right on by.