The Main Problem

Namath12

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In my opinion, the main problem is both conceptual and arrogant.:
1. Having a rookie coach AND offensive coordinator.
2. Having several starters playing positions OTHER than what they played in college. Believing that you can take certain height, weight, and speed metrics and turn them into good NFL players at new positions, notably with college DBs now playing linebacker. How could these players POSSIBLY have the necessary instincts? It was one of the concerns that I had about Sam, who played mostly linebacker in college.
3. Rigidly using schemes that may NOT fit our current roster, rather than adapting your schemes to the players that you actually HAVE!
4. To modify a familiar cliche, if you have 4 QB coaches, you have none.
 

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Jamien Sherwood at Auburn was an in the box safety, or like now would be considered linebacker... Now because of his football acumen Saleh believed he would be valuable as the MIKE MLB in his defense... He had some up and downs but played pretty well when he was in, and you can not fault him for getting hurt. 15 tackles, could of been better but he got the defense lined up until his torn achilles...

Hamsah Nasirildeen grew up in Concord, North Carolina and attended Concord High School, where he played safety, linebacker, tight end and wide receiver on the football team. He first played defense as a junior and made 85 tackles, five interceptions, two forced fumbles and broke up seven passes and also caught 35 passes for 634 yards on offense. He was placed on injured reserve on October 5. He was activated on November 4, 2021. He is still getting into game shape, so they are easing him back into rotation. He didn't play verse Buffalo...
 

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You can't fault a coach for trying to put players in certain positions on a very young team. It takes more than a 1/2 year year for these players to feel comfortable and learn more about there positions.
 

skop

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your #2 stands out to me, and i agree.

This team is in complete rebuild right now, so there are many problems that need to be fixed. But the pervasive thing that needs to be addressed will continue into the time period that we are fully rebuilt...and that is discipline.

1.) Saleh and Co. just do not want to admit that men who play a child's game for a living have to be dealt with in a child like way when it comes to learning what is acceptable and what is not; not because they need to be admonished like a child, but because it is a part of the game they play for a living.

2.) This team lacks overall strength. Bart Scott was making fun of them yesterday. He just flat out said they get pushed around, and they can't do a thing about it.
 

skop

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You can't fault a coach for trying to put players in certain positions on a very young team. It takes more than a 1/2 year year for these players to feel comfortable and learn more about there positions.

There might be some truth to that, but let's say we drafted the fastest guys in the 5th and 6th rounds who were actually LB's in college; at least a part of the process is done.
 

Tinstar

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It’s the first year introducing their schemes to a bunch of kids . How did y’all figure it was going to go. The only thing that’s problematic for me is all the injuries. Those injuries are stunting the development of these kids getting the necessary experience in the scheme. The Jets have a ton of speed in the defense but it’s being negated due to inexperienced and injuries. The offense is pretty much the same way due to a lack of consistency along the OL
and poor play at the QB position.
All things considered I happened to think this team is doing a decent job. My biggest complaint is with the front 7 defensively . Especially the DL where I expected better.
 

Namath12

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I stand by my opinions above, but I left out something else that bothers me. There seems to be a rigidity in Salah’s coaching. For example, today Saleh was asked why he didn’t put Hall on Buffalo’s stud receiver after Echols was injured. The answer was, “We don’t do that.” Well why the hell NOT? Or, why not give Guidry some help, rather than leaving him on an island?
Again, a rigidity Of thinking. By way of contrast, Parcells, and now Beliichick often used game/team specific game plans.
 

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You scheme around the strengths of your players and you do your best to hide their weaknesses!!

Blaming players because they can't execute your scheme is the same as admitting you have no idea how to scheme for your players!
 

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first year we knew it was going to be trying...
lets see how things pan out after this season...
what player stay and what players are not re-signed, traded or cut..

during games I don't see anything out of Robert Saleh... Your star players are underperforming and suppose to be the hype man he is not trying to encourage them, fire them up like he said he would do... that is the problem I have with him...
 

Tinstar

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If the defense do anything like it did when it made that goal line stand it would give the coach something to get fired up about. How do you lose your mind trying to fire up a team when you’re supposed to be concentrating on what’s going on because you’re no longer in charge of 1 unit but the total team
 

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I'm worried about coaches losing the team. you have to win games or at least be in them for the players to buy into the system.

that's why it's very hard to have a successful rebuild that takes years
 

TonyFtLaud

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The D is too predictable. No adjustments and teams are exploiting it now. Same plays burning us week in and week out.
 

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the defense at one point was successful because there was speed to roam from sideline to sideline...

we have two nickel corners, one could play safety...
now with Echols out we steal Bills draft pick Wildgoose (awesome name) very raw prospect but is 21 years old...
Quincy Williams needs to be inserted more on defense...
CJ Mosley should be the middle linebacker over Jarrad Davis...
Jarrad Davis should be released he has been nothing but pathetic on defense can not tackle, can not cover his PFF rating since he has been back is 36.8 like how much more do you need to see he is not productive...
 

Tinstar

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The defense has three problems.
The defensive line is made up of all up field rushers who’re not good enough to get to the QB and have no clue how to set the edge .
The linebackers are playing out of position, are too slow to cover the pass and too young and inexperienced.
The secondary is simply too young and inexperienced.
 

gastineau

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Saleh and entire Coaching staff is doing OK considering they are learning news jobs with a Jets Team that's half built at best. Remember the Jets hasn't been built right since GM IDZIK took over and then Mikey came in doing stupid Drafts with both Drafting so fricken terrible to current pile of Jets trash. If Jets GM goes out buying a few key positions and gets enough good picks next year's Draft we could compete next year. I agree with treating Players like men. I always treated my crew with respect, new guys or older as long as I got their best I treated them all as such. BUT also if someone continues to goof up or not work hard making mistakes over and over like it's a new JOB every day ,I come down on them hard! I tell them at a crew meeting a warning and then point out the ones screwing us all over. I tell rest of crew that these lazy bastards are going to ruin it for us all. Then I'm going to treat each person like they are working. Since these persons not working like a man, I will be treating them as a child they are acting like. Pointing out they are making millions and short time to do this and then if they want to ruin their lives getting fat,lazy,drugs,drinking and maybe prison they can. After warning the guys screwing the rest of crew I humiliate them non stop in front of the crew pointing out on film in this case his lack of effort, quitting, and totally stupid moves like a child playing tiny tot football. No way would I allow them Players to screw me and crew with treating them with respect like adult because you have to act like a man working to get treated as such.
 

Seaver41

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no doubt we are seeing the ugly combo of injuries and inexperience....but I would agree a fair amount of arrogance is wafting in. I was troubled by seeing no help covering Diggs. His answer was a blitz - whoopsie, didn't work. Now granted they are getting exploited by better teams likely to be in postseason chase, and yes they look competitive at times, but now they are on tape and opponents are dialing up the weak spots.

The poor depth/size at LB was the worst possible matchup in that Colts game - mainly because their OL could neutralize the Jets DL - leaving undersized LBs getting swept aside.

I do not like the premature shortsighted tone of local writers who want a GM head on a stake. They have no idea what he was tasked with and that it's not an overnight fix. We're seeing the disastrous results of prior regime drafts - there is no base to augment right now. They are paper thin and have bad injuries. We don't have roster depth from past 5-6-7 drafts to fill roles. 2 drafts don't construct a roster.

I fully expect them to more competitive against the weaker part of the schedule and the writers will inevitably not see it properly.

things Jets have to get accomplished before season is over;
1. Zach playing and running the offense correctly
2. Becton on the field to improve OL overall
3. Carter/Moore finish strong to set the tone for 2022

..thing is here the draft is a success if you have the first 4 rounds contributing and pointing northward. Picks after that are depth and lottery tickets in future years. Would like to see more of the 2020 draft class show up.
 
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