Update: Deebo Samuel has officially ask to be traded

cheaterhater

I've Lost My Fucking Mind
Superior Ass
Jets Global
I'm going on record I'm not on board with this move for a couple reasons. First, I don't want to pay a WR $25M. Second, I want to build through the draft for another year. Finally, there is no reason to give up the #10 pick because Deebo is not playing for SF. They have no leverage.
agree on all counts
 

skop

The Green Knight
Jet Fanatics
Sure he would . Right after they got over supposedly poisoning him . Or maybe he wouldn’t have caught Covid in San Fran.

true, his illnesses kept him from practicing and competing, but that wasn't why he didn't see the field. he didn't see the field, because when he was healthy enough, he had to be the backup to "every starter"... he had to know #10's, #84's, #88's, #8's roles to get on the field; as stated by Saleh.

I wasn't being disrespectful to ML, nor was my post giving undue praise to Mims or other OC's... i am giving him props down the road.

ML had a lot on his plate... he didn't have a smooth running machine... he didn't even have a machine with all of it's parts.
to his credit, he kept things simple as a manager; it gives your the ability to get the most accomplished.

"in time", after his systems are the rule to his players, he will have players from time to time who do not get the totality of their job, but he'll be able to spoon feed them enough to get something out of them until they can be major contributors.

i get you don't agree with me pertaining to this on Mims, but you should digest the italicized thought at the top of this post before throwing it of hand completely.
 

SackExchange

Jet Fanatic
The Mod Squad
Jet Fanatics
Jets Global
So you have a choice between a certain thing that you are going to have to pay, or a maybe who, if he turns out to be as good as the sure thing, you would have to pay.
 

gmf1369

Jack of All Trades
Big Fish
The Mod Squad
Jet Fanatics
Jets Global
So Joe Douglas offered the 35th, 38th & 107th for Deebo Samuel and 9ers said no, they want first round picks plus a player but things could change. With the Lions interested they might cave and give up the 32nd & 34th picks. Right now believe they offered the 32nd, 66 & 97 picks but not the 34th.
 

skop

The Green Knight
Jet Fanatics
I'm going on record I'm not on board with this move for a couple reasons. First, I don't want to pay a WR $25M. Second, I want to build through the draft for another year. Finally, there is no reason to give up the #10 pick because Deebo is not playing for SF. They have no leverage.

dude... the next time you hit a home run of a post, don't bury the lead!!! "finally" should be the main reason JD should be offering a 3rd rounder and box of Twinkies to them.
 

cheaterhater

I've Lost My Fucking Mind
Superior Ass
Jets Global
So you have a choice between a certain thing that you are going to have to pay, or a maybe who, if he turns out to be as good as the sure thing, you would have to pay.
for me, I don't think we are at the point where we should give one guy 25 mil. I'm hoping that in 4 years, guys will want to stay on the Jets or come to the Jets for less and a good shot at a ring

Don't laugh at me
 

skop

The Green Knight
Jet Fanatics
So you have a choice between a certain thing that you are going to have to pay, or a maybe who, if he turns out to be as good as the sure thing, you would have to pay.

or you could end up with another Elijah Moore?
 

SackExchange

Jet Fanatic
The Mod Squad
Jet Fanatics
Jets Global
for me, I don't think we are at the point where we should give one guy 25 mil. I'm hoping that in 4 years, guys will want to stay on the Jets or come to the Jets for less and a good shot at a ring

Don't laugh at me

I can see the argument that the team is not ready for a big investment. But the only way to find out if Zach is the real deal is to give him a good supporting cast, and see whether he sinks or swims.

If you give him nothing in terms of weapons, then you are making the same mistakes the franchise made with Darnold and others before him.
 

TebowCan'tThrow

Supersize!
The Mod Squad
Jet Fanatics
Jets Global
I can see the argument that the team is not ready for a big investment. But the only way to find out if Zach is the real deal is to give him a good supporting cast, and see whether he sinks or swims.

If you give him nothing in terms of weapons, then you are making the same mistakes the franchise made with Darnold and others before him.
We have given him an above average OL, FA wide reciever and drafted one. How much more does the kid need?
 

skop

The Green Knight
Jet Fanatics
for me, I don't think we are at the point where we should give one guy 25 mil. I'm hoping that in 4 years, guys will want to stay on the Jets or come to the Jets for less and a good shot at a ring

Don't laugh at me

too late, brother. players are coming here already because we have a well run org.
players will be coming here next year for rings.
 

SackExchange

Jet Fanatic
The Mod Squad
Jet Fanatics
Jets Global
We have given him an above average OL, FA wide reciever and drafted one. How much more does the kid need?

He has more than Darnold, for sure. But the WR corps could still use a bit of help on the top end of the depth chart. Who is the true #1?
 

TebowCan'tThrow

Supersize!
The Mod Squad
Jet Fanatics
Jets Global
Now if you tell me we offer a pick and get rid of Corey Davis and his contract then I'm on board with the $25M.
 

skop

The Green Knight
Jet Fanatics
I can see the argument that the team is not ready for a big investment. But the only way to find out if Zach is the real deal is to give him a good supporting cast, and see whether he sinks or swims.

If you give him nothing in terms of weapons, then you are making the same mistakes the franchise made with Darnold and others before him.

Zach doesn't have "the greatest show on turf", nor "The Marks Brothers", nor "The Smurfs"... you get the point.
but he doesn't have a big plate of Steaming $h!t in the Lubbock, TX heat either; especially after the TE's we got.

i am willing to forego high priced "weaponry" for the moment to give Zach elite protection and his backs craters to run through.
i bet we get a better feel for his pedestal of "Franchise" or "Place Holder" by finishing the line... IMHO.
 

SackExchange

Jet Fanatic
The Mod Squad
Jet Fanatics
Jets Global
Now if you tell me we offer a pick and get rid of Corey Davis and his contract then I'm on board with the $25M.

Right now, the team is not cap-strapped. When these picks from the past couple years mature, that may change. But Deebo can be afforded right now.
 
Top