Wentz, Lynch and Dak and this past draft!

jets82

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I think we all can see here where the Jets went wrong in this years draft. Whether you want to say it for everyone to hear or admit it atleast to yourself or not Jets faithful. The Jets should have drafted one of these QBs. True enough, it would have taken a kings ransom to move up and get Wentz but we all see he's worth it. Lynch was a second rounder (if I'm correct) or late first rounder and we don't know what he's worth right now but he was supposed to be getting ready to play this year. The only reason I'm guessing he's not is because Sieman is tearing it up out there and has no plans of giving up the job. I think everyone thought Sieman would play ok over about 6-7 games and eventually lose the job to Lynch who would be ready to go then but props to Sieman for seeing it otherwise. Now Dak is a whole-nother story that crushes my sole and will do so for years to come no. Being that I'm tired and frustrated with this shit, I will just post the same thing I've posted twice before and just let you guys crush me for not letting this go:

I hope all you guys are watching the Cowboys vs. Bears game right now. Just to see what we could have had, if the Jets were smart. I won't be unrealistic and mention Wentz or even Lynch because they are first and second rounder's. Dak was a forth and was well within our reach of drafting and we didn't. Yes we can go back to the Marino-O'Brien draft or any other draft the Jets didn't draft a QB or some other position that we missed out on a clutch to HOF player. Yes we can do that but let's just stick with the most recent draft, last year and we could have this young and upcoming star playing for us right now. If you want to just say shut up and lets root for the players we do have then that's fine, let's do that. What about Petty, he looked pretty good in pre-season and probably would do no worse then Fitz would do for us, so why not?

FYI: With Dak, Elliot and Dez they will probably win 3-4 more SB in the future. They have the next big three!
 
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Elias

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The Jets went after a qb, twice in Petty and Hackenberg. They are trying, the picks haven't panned out. Do you want them to draft a qb on every pick even if they think the qb they drafted is better?
 

TebowCan'tThrow

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I like Dak, but lets cool our "Jets" until defenses catch up to him which they always do. He might be great and I hate that the Cowboys got him, but no sense in worrying about it now. Only hope is Petty or Hack can be something.
 

gmf1369

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FYI Dak had off the field issues that turned the Jets front office off on him, just prior they were very high on him (has potential)... As for trading up for Wentz there were rumors the Jets tried too but it is not only the player that is excelling it is the coaching staff putting him in the right place... If Wentz or Dak came here they would not be immediate success stories as they are in both Philly & Dallas respectively...

Am I happy they drafted two QBs in the last two drafts yes and see both of them developing in the next couple of years...

Since Pennington, this team hasn't developed a QB the right way so we can say this position is set for years... Now with two potential prospects we have double the chance to hit on one as long as they put in the work...

For everyone pissing on this front office since day one needs to step back and look at the entire body of work compared to the last two regimes which actually were really bad... From being suckered into selecting a player like Vernon Gholston too having 19 picks in two years and only hitting on 3 players shows that so far Macc is not only looking for potential but is looking for full body of work...

Every coach has their style of prospect they are attracted too, people are pissed about Lee being the first round selection but in honesty he is the perfect fit for Bowles defense being a former safety now linebacker he gives this team flexibility on defense... Not to mention we struck gold with the real star from Georgia in outside linebacker Jordan Jenkins... Last year we got another three steals in Mauldin, Petty and Simon... Devin Smith has potential but is a walking injury so far and has limited his effectiveness but all in all Macc and company have done a damn good job in drafting and grabbing sleeper prospects in rookie free agency like this year's sleepers in Robby Anderson and Jalin Marshall...
 

Bigmoe

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Even Dallas didn't " want " Prescott , they wanted Cook.
Had to settle for him and he was still low on thier charts 3rd string until Kellen Moore injury and then Romo.
Has he turned out for them , yes so far but you make it sound like the Jets fucked up by not picking him .
It's not even an argument .
Nobody wanted Kurt Warner either , except Shoprite
Come on give it up.
 
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jets82

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I guess it's just our Jets luck. Or bad luck should I say. I guess I can't blame the Jets to much, I drafted Bortles and Dak on my fantasy team and I have not played Dak yet. I really wanted to this week but thought Bortles would have a break out game against the Ravens and he threw 3 ints and about 8 total points. While Dak is lighting it up and put up about 25-30 points. Guess that shows how much of a GM I am and how much I know about football. Seems I am dumb as shit when it comes to this drafting and playing the right players also, LOL!!! One thing I can say for me is I may not be playing him but atleast I drafted him.
 
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SackExchange

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Good heavens.

I hope the sculptor is already working on Dak's bust for Canton.
 

jets82

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The Jets went after a qb, twice in Petty and Hackenberg. They are trying, the picks haven't panned out. Do you want them to draft a qb on every pick even if they think the qb they drafted is better?

No just draft the right one and actually play him. That's all!
 

butterscotch

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As I have said this Gm will be judged on the qb he brings in first. It takes time but if a good qb comes up in the draft next year lets take him...

I still don't like Fitz or Marshall (the old one) They are losers but they still have a season to turn that around.
 

NYJETSDAN16

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FYI Dak had off the field issues that turned the Jets front office off on him, just prior they were very high on him (has potential)... As for trading up for Wentz there were rumors the Jets tried too but it is not only the player that is excelling it is the coaching staff putting him in the right place... If Wentz or Dak came here they would not be immediate success stories as they are in both Philly & Dallas respectively...

Am I happy they drafted two QBs in the last two drafts yes and see both of them developing in the next couple of years...

Since Pennington, this team hasn't developed a QB the right way so we can say this position is set for years... Now with two potential prospects we have double the chance to hit on one as long as they put in the work...

For everyone pissing on this front office since day one needs to step back and look at the entire body of work compared to the last two regimes which actually were really bad... From being suckered into selecting a player like Vernon Gholston too having 19 picks in two years and only hitting on 3 players shows that so far Macc is not only looking for potential but is looking for full body of work...

Every coach has their style of prospect they are attracted too, people are pissed about Lee being the first round selection but in honesty he is the perfect fit for Bowles defense being a former safety now linebacker he gives this team flexibility on defense... Not to mention we struck gold with the real star from Georgia in outside linebacker Jordan Jenkins... Last year we got another three steals in Mauldin, Petty and Simon... Devin Smith has potential but is a walking injury so far and has limited his effectiveness but all in all Macc and company have done a damn good job in drafting and grabbing sleeper prospects in rookie free agency like this year's sleepers in Robby Anderson and Jalin Marshall...

Phenomenal post brother.

Penny was the only QB that i remember that the organization took the Steve McNair, Aaron Rodgers and Dan Marino route. Benched a couple of years, learn the nuances of the game. Understand the game by watching a vet whose been there done that. Pick his brain and study all of season to place what you learned onto the field. Penny strived.

The Jets kept on taking the "other" approach with Mark and Geno. The defense masked Sanchez's flaws the first two seasons. They never honestly developed him the right way. Year three they want to make him into a gun slinger which that was not who he was (that was the other guy who went forst overall that draft in '09).

We all want immediate gratification. Sure Wentz, Dak, Brissett, Siemian look outstanding. But so did Ryan Leaf the first two games. Pump the brakes a little fellaz. Ia'm sure they will be good in due time, but lets see when they start handling adversity once midnight strikes. Its a long season gentlement.

Plus, we dont know what we have in Bryce Petty. Hell, he was the best QB we had on the team this pre-season. If Fitz continues to play the way he did yesterday, then we will see how well Petty progressed in the class room onto the grid iron.
 

lounap23

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Hindsight is 20/20.... But the reality is we haven't seen enough yet to look back and say coulda shoulda woulda....


90% of all experts had Hack ahead of Prescott.. We are developing both Petty and Hack the right way in my opinion... Let's see where everyone stands come 2018 and then see who looks smart and who looks dumb..

I will say this I think Elway looks smart... No not for drafting Lynch and no not for finding Semian but for absolutely not paying Brock Osweiler 18-19 million......

So far given the situation I think the Jets FO is doing things right. I think they like the development they saw in Petty last year and made a decision to not draft a QB in RD 1 and decided on Hack in Rd 2 because they felt he was a guy that had all the tools and needed development which they would give him.. Why Rd 2? easy reports had 2 Teams (Bears and Steelers) behind the Jets that were looking to take Hack as well as Jerry Jones himself said after the draft if Hack was there in Rd 3 that's who they were taking.. So Prescott going to the BOys in RD 4 was about how the board fell for the Cowboys and a lot of luck... Cause if we take Paxton Lynch in RD 1 like ppl wanted or pass on a QB till later Hack would be a Cowboy and then what? Would he be playing like Prescott and this post would be about how we should have drafted Hack and blah blah blah..

Now I like Prescott... Liked him in college.. I hope Hack develops but the reality is, for me, I think Petty is the better QB than both of them and pissed he hurt his shoulder cause I know he would be the backup and Geno would have been cut if not for that...
 

SackExchange

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No just draft the right one and actually play him. That's all!

Well, they could also take the philosophy that organizations like Green Bay took with Aaron Rodgers, and let him mature and develop before playing him.
 

jets82

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Well, they could also take the philosophy that organizations like Green Bay took with Aaron Rodgers, and let him mature and develop before playing him.

They could but this is just ridiculous, for whatever reason. Like I said before, I guess it's just the Jets bad luck. Drafting Rodgers as Green Bay did worked out for them sitting him three years. Then again, they had no choice because look who he was playing behind. I'm sure if it was someone like Jeff George, Rodgers would have been year one after games 5-6 and I'm guessing he would have done just as well. Hell, he might have beat him out during training camp and pre season. Then you have QBs like Brady or Big Ben and Rivers who waited a few games to a year at most before they got in and it turned out well. Even Pennington waited a year and he would have been great for us if he wouldn't have caught the injury bug.

But look at all the QBs now that come in and are ready from game one. Whether they were drafted in round one or round four. Cam Newton, Russell Wilson, Andrew Luck, Dak Prescott and Carson Wentz. Even the Browns rookie QB that started yesterday looked pretty good for them. Some of these teams may have even lucked up on drafting these guys (Wilson) and some seemed to not even want to draft that QB but they did (Dak). Why can't that shit happen for us? I was slowly thinking we struck gold with Sanchez the way he played his first two years with us but then it quickly hit me year three how wrong I was. It would just be nice if the Jets could find that diamond in the ruff (Dak) or even sell the farm for that sure fire hit like (Wentz).
 
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usapaw

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Silly that most are believing the 3 rookies are all going to be great after a few games. I believe that the old theory of 6 rolls of film in the can shows the flaws and, more than likely, all three will be neutralized. People are generally suckers for whatever the supposed NFL gurus say.
All we know is Fitz is who he is and won't ever yield anything different. We have 3 qb's who we may never know anything about because the current regime is convinced that wining is all that matters so they continue to play Fitz; but he won't really win anything. I believe this will lead to another succession of house cleaning in NY.
 
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