What bothered me the most about the Jets draft
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That was funny.:global (45):
That's a very misleading stat. An immobile quarterback like , oh let's say, Tom Brady, would have been sacked way more behind our offensive line (and probably set a record for fumbles too) while Sam did a pretty good job running for his life and avoiding sacks.
just as you say Brady's line is not great because Brady was sacked x number of times but truth is that stat is again misleading because if Brady is sacked 10 times a season, he is probably only pressured 11 times in the season and may not ever even have been touched as he always falls to the ground if a defender gets anywhere near him
Our offensive line is not very good. I think just about everyone can agree on that
I do, however, agree with you about Mac not being at total fault for everything that is wrong in Jet land
The same can be said for Mac's supporters. He can do no wrong.
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And the truth is very much in the middle.
I was bored one day so I went back and rewatched the Texans and Packers games at the end of the season. I thought those were the two best games of Darnold’s young career.
He was running for his life those games and made it work with his feet. The good news is that Darnold is mobile. I just fear he is going to get pooped hard when he’s running out and about and he will get hurt.
Macc needed to address the line and he failed at it. The Oline makes a huge difference.
He was running for his life those games and made it work with his feet. The good news is that Darnold is mobile. I just fear he is going to get pooped hard when he’s running out and about and he will get hurt.
Macc needed to address the line and he failed at it. The Oline makes a huge difference.
It really is amazing Elias
I think it’s pretty straightforward, actually. People are talking about how horrible the line is, and yet they were ranked in the top half of the league in sacks allowed. I’m not saying that’s great or anything, but 19 other o-lines did a worse job keeping their QB’s upright. Do those o-lines all suck, too?
The Jets big problem wasn’t pass protection. It was run blocking, where they ranked near the bottom. I agree that improvements were needed, and acquiring KO should help. But like most fans, I would’ve preferred to have seen maybe one more interior lineman added other than Compton. I don’t know what the plan is, but I know they’re not playing the Bills until Sept 8th, so there’s still time to pick someone up after cut downs.
I don’t know who TCT is referring to. I have never come even close to saying “Macc can do no wrong”. I have criticized him for what I perceive to be misses or mistakes. And I’ve absolved him of misplaced blame when fans scapegoat him.
I’m not the “extreme” one on this issue.
there have been a number of posters who have posted various scouting reports on these guys which make your claims false.
PFF had very high grades on a few of them. they had edoga as the #64 playeer (got him at 92) and cashman at the #59 player (that's a 2nd round grade) and they got him at 157.
https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/draft-2019-nfl-draft-grades-for-all-32-teams
Day 1:
New Jets interior defender Quinnen Williams was a no-brainer pick for New York. PFF’s No. 3 overall player in the class, Williams earned the highest grade we’ve ever given to a college interior defender (96.0) in his lone season as a starter at Alabama.
“He’s freakishly athletic. He knows how to use his hands at an elite, elite level already. I don’t know how he didn’t play at all a year before.” – Pro Football Focus’ Lead Draft Analyst Mike Renner
Day 2:
Florida edge defender Jachai Polite fell in the draft in wake of poor athletic testing and interviews at and after the 2019 NFL Scouting Combine. However, before any of that happened, he was considered a first-round pick by many because of his outstanding play on the field. He earned the fourth-best pass-rush grade (90.9) among qualifying edge defenders in the draft class in 2018.
USC’s Chuma Edoga is slightly built and needs to add more muscle to his frame, but he is already stingy in pass protection. He allowed just four pressures last season, and he entered the draft as PFF’s No. 64 overall player in the class, so scooping him up at No. 92 was a value play for the Jets.
Day 3:
Trevon Wesco, a physical, aggressive run-blocking tight end with great size for the position, is a solid pick for the Jets. But it’s the Blake Cashman pick at No. 157 for the Jets that takes the cake as the team’s best selection on Saturday.
Cashman earned a 90.0-plus overall grade this past season and tested out as one of the most athletic linebackers in the class at the combine en route to the No. 59 overall spot on PFF’s big board.
he effectively drafted 2 o-lineman (osemele was acquired in a draft pick swap and he took edoga in the 3rd) and added perhaps the best blocking TE in the draft.
it remains to be seen how they turn out, and i too am concerned about the center position and the future at the tackle position.
but it is false to say he ignored the o-line when he may have (potentially) added 2 starters and a top blocking TE/FB/H-back
Failed? I think that’s reaching. Kelechi Osemele is a pretty damn good Guard. And he picked up a FA depth player (Compton) and drafted a Tackle in the 3rd round.
I would’ve preferred a player like Paradis or Morse at center, but failed?
We need to give these guys a chance but if something happens I hope they visit the D man in the Hospital
If anybody is getting a visit in the hospital, it’s more likely to be Kyler Murray. They didn’t address the OL until Round 6. And they were ranked 29th in QB sacks allowed last year.
Brick, If we had 3rd graders on the Offensive line you would still say there is no problem with the Oline. We picked up KO from the Raiders. All-Pro this All-Pro that. The Raiders said he gave up on them last year. They couldn't wait to get rid of him. Now we have him and your all are saying "we got an All-Pro". We got nothing! Put up or shut up! That's what I think of KO. I still don't know where you think our Run Blocking was good last year. We weren't that good and won't be this year. I complain about the Offensive Line every year. Why? Because we don't Draft early solid OL. We don't even sign or trade for quality players up front. Its time the Macc fiasco came to an end!
Did you actually read my post?
I said the run blocking was bad. And improvements were needed. KO gave up on the Raiders?? That’s the first I’ve heard of that.
Because I don’t join this blame game of “Macc’s the problem and needs to be shit canned” mentality, I get labeled an extreme apologist for the guy. But when people blame him for everything, that’s rational thought apparently.
We’ll see, hope this post is right and mine is wrong!
I heard during Draft night that KO quit on the Raiders last year. I have an on going fued with you every year at this time. Its all in fun Brick. I know you support the Offensive line. I just think that we drafted Darnold and signed one of the best RB in the league. I figured we would go out and put together a good OL. I remember a few years ago when we drafted Lee. Prior to drafting him, Macc tried his best to trade up with Miami to draft Laremy Tunsil. So Macc has tried. Instead of drafting Hackenberg, he should have packaged our 1st and 2nd to move up. My bad on the run blocking..
All good AFA. I don’t expect everyone to agree with me. This is all friendly debate among fans in my eyes.
hes had five years to improve the line but the jets still field a below average unit. We’ll see.