What will Cousins fetch on the open market

[NCgreen12]

Coming to terms that the Jets will sign Cousins. Hope I'm wrong and far from my first choice as I prefer to draft someone and would trade up to do so. However the dynamics as I see it are Mac and Bowles want/need to win now and Cousins accomplishes that. With that said I think the Jets then have to leverage their QB friendly 6th pick. I think Zona would be a perfect match to grab possibly their 1st this and next year and a lower pick this year (3rd). I'd go with Price or Jackson at 15 and definitely a running back with our first number two. Love Michel. Again, hope I'm wrong.

 

[TebowCan'tThrow]

I think the Jets throw the most money at Cousins and I don't think he will come to the Jets. The Jags are in a way better position and can offer close to the same money. Better OL, better RB and way better defense. Vikings would be next. Then I believe the Jets are 3rd. If he picks the Jets it will be because they offered the most money and the ability to make the most money with endorsements. There than that the Jets have less talent than any of the teams going after him outside of the Browns and its debatable if the Jets have more than the Browns. I think the Jets draft a QB and then sign a veteran to hold the fort.

 

[McJet]

I think the Jets throw the most money at Cousins and I don't think he will come to the Jets. The Jags are in a way better position and can offer close to the same money. Better OL, better RB and way better defense. Vikings would be next. Then I believe the Jets are 3rd. If he picks the Jets it will be because they offered the most money and the ability to make the most money with endorsements. There than that the Jets have less talent than any of the teams going after him outside of the Browns and its debatable if the Jets have more than the Browns. I think the Jets draft a QB and then sign a veteran to hold the fort.

The Jets are going to have to sell their vision to Cousins to go along with the highest contract.
They can say it starts with him, once he is in the fold, they'll go after the center from Baltimore, try and shore up some more of the oline in the draft. Go after a big name receiver to go along with the WR talent in Enunwa and Anderson that is on the team.PLus a years growth for Hanson and Stewart.
The Jets had a very young and aggressive defense last year but wore down with the offense struggling.
They can go after Trumaine Johnson to lock down one CB spot. Resign Claiborne as a solid #2. See what last years draft class can offer as well as this years. Two stud safeties. Definitely need to upgrade the passrush, maybe through free agency maybe with the #6 overall pick in a Bradley Chubb.
The Jets are not THAT far off, once a capable QB is in the fold. Plus, this is New York, if he wins here as a Jet he will be glorified forever. Just ask Joe Namath.

 

[TonyFtLaud]

I think the Jets throw the most money at Cousins and I don't think he will come to the Jets. The Jags are in a way better position and can offer close to the same money. Better OL, better RB and way better defense. Vikings would be next. Then I believe the Jets are 3rd. If he picks the Jets it will be because they offered the most money and the ability to make the most money with endorsements. There than that the Jets have less talent than any of the teams going after him outside of the Browns and its debatable if the Jets have more than the Browns. I think the Jets draft a QB and then sign a veteran to hold the fort.

The Jags could offer about $15 million max and that would leave them just enough for draft signings with no reserve for injury signings.

The Vikings have the money to sign him , but would they want to. They can resign keenum for much less money and not mess with the chemestry in place They also are looking to extend Diggs , Hunter, Kendricks and Barr.
Cousin's signing would make it very difficult to keep them on the roster past 2018.

 

[TonyFtLaud]

Just a thought.
If Washington we're to actually tag Cousins, they could not complete the Alex Smith trade until Cousins we're traded, and only if he were to agree to the trade. Cousin's could hold off signing the tag, voiding the Smith trade and file his grievance as soon as KC trades Smith elsewhere, leaving Washington without any QB.

 

[TebowCan'tThrow]

Just a thought.
If Washington we're to actually tag Cousins, they could not complete the Alex Smith trade until Cousins we're traded, and only if he were to agree to the trade. Cousin's could hold off signing the tag, voiding the Smith trade and file his grievance as soon as KC trades Smith elsewhere, leaving Washington without any QB.

That would be awesome. It would be even better if it happened to Pats or Cowboys.

 

[NCgreen12]

There is just way too much downside for the Skins to tag Cousins just to get say a 4th rounder. I'd be shocked if they did it. Probably like us it's one of their bonehead media guys looking to show a headline that is just speculation.

 

[AFA2017]

I think the Jets throw the most money at Cousins and I don't think he will come to the Jets. The Jags are in a way better position and can offer close to the same money. Better OL, better RB and way better defense. Vikings would be next. Then I believe the Jets are 3rd. If he picks the Jets it will be because they offered the most money and the ability to make the most money with endorsements. There than that the Jets have less talent than any of the teams going after him outside of the Browns and its debatable if the Jets have more than the Browns. I think the Jets draft a QB and then sign a veteran to hold the fort.

I agree.The more I keep seeing teams like Jax, Minn and Denver on what they already have, why would Cousins want to come to the Jets. Money would be the only reason.

 

[AFA2017]

The Jets are going to have to sell their vision to Cousins to go along with the highest contract.
They can say it starts with him, once he is in the fold, they'll go after the center from Baltimore, try and shore up some more of the oline in the draft. Go after a big name receiver to go along with the WR talent in Enunwa and Anderson that is on the team.PLus a years growth for Hanson and Stewart.
The Jets had a very young and aggressive defense last year but wore down with the offense struggling.
They can go after Trumaine Johnson to lock down one CB spot. Resign Claiborne as a solid #2. See what last years draft class can offer as well as this years. Two stud safeties. Definitely need to upgrade the passrush, maybe through free agency maybe with the #6 overall pick in a Bradley Chubb.
The Jets are not THAT far off, once a capable QB is in the fold. Plus, this is New York, if he wins here as a Jet he will be glorified forever. Just ask Joe Namath.

If the Jets sign Cousins which I doubt, I still believe they will go Defense unless Barkley fell to them at 6. Assuming they take a FA QB.

 

[TonyFtLaud]

I agree.The more I keep seeing teams like Jax, Minn and Denver on what they already have, why would Cousins want to come to the Jets. Money would be the only reason.

You really have to look at the big picture.
Denver is on the Declined, that D is not the same as the one who carried Manning a few years ago, Anderson is being released to free up cap room, both receivers are 30. They are on the verge of a rebuild with one year to try to win . There is little stability, Vance may be fired before mid season.
The Vikings look good , can pay him but would not be able to keep Diggs,Barr , Kendricks and others next season. Keenum makes more sense for them, he played great and has chemistry with the rest of the team.
Jax can't possibly afford to sign him. They are stuck with Bortles $19 million , even if they cut him due to his off season wrist surgery. He would have to agree it a contract with very little money up front, 10mill or so for the first 2 years with no guarantees for years 3-5. Taking less money is one thing, leaving $130 Million on the table is completely different.
The Jets are not a great team by any stretch but the D has good young pices, the Receivers are young with promise, the TEs have potential, and there will be $60-70 Million left to sign FAs and the 6th pick and 2 seconds can retool the roster in year 1. Year two will be similar with plenty of cap space and draft picks. Cousins is high on Bates, if familiar with and wants to play in his system. I think the Jets are in a good position going forward.

 

[AFA2017]

You really have to look at the big picture.
Denver is on the Declined, that D is not the same as the one who carried Manning a few years ago, Anderson is being released to free up cap room, both receivers are 30. They are on the verge of a rebuild with one year to try to win . There is little stability, Vance may be fired before mid season.
The Vikings look good , can pay him but would not be able to keep Diggs,Barr , Kendricks and others next season. Keenum makes more sense for them, he played great and has chemistry with the rest of the team.
Jax can't possibly afford to sign him. They are stuck with Bortles $19 million , even if they cut him due to his off season wrist surgery. He would have to agree it a contract with very little money up front, 10mill or so for the first 2 years with no guarantees for years 3-5. Taking less money is one thing, leaving $130 Million on the table is completely different.
The Jets are not a great team by any stretch but the D has good young pices, the Receivers are young with promise, the TEs have potential, and there will be $60-70 Million left to sign FAs and the 6th pick and 2 seconds can retool the roster in year 1. Year two will be similar with plenty of cap space and draft picks. Cousins is high on Bates, if familiar with and wants to play in his system. I think the Jets are in a good position going forward.

The only source we have that the Jets are interested in Cousins are Cimini and the rumor mill. From what I have seen of Mac, I don't think he wants to spend that kind of money on a FA. Mac got burnt with Revis and am not sure he is willing to go that route again.

 

[TonyFtLaud]

True, but the only source we have that any team is interested in Cousins come from their local media.
We do have the interview with Cousins from the Super Bowl media days also. He did say he would love to play in NY. He has researched teams that may be interested and is very impressed by what he hears about Bates from two coaches whose opinion he respects greatly.
That it's not only about money but winning, not immediately but now and in the future.
For all we know he could end up in Arizona, Buffalo or a number of places.
I just happen to think the Jets have a very good chance to land him, better than Denver, Jax or the Vikings for the reasons I mentioned.
As far as Revis goes , Woody was the driving force and did he really get burnt?
Revis fell off quickly but Mac structured the contract with an out. It didn't work but didn't hurt the team going forward either.

 

[Gramoah]

I am always big about investing heavily in the OL. That said, I think to justify drafting a guard at #6, based on market value, the guy has to be a once-in-a-decade talent at that position. Is Nelson? Tough to say. I think he's very good, and will be worth a first rounder. But at #6? I might instead choose to trade down, if a team wants one of the QBs, and try to land him or another top position player later in the first. Besides, I'm not sure guard is the biggest hole on the line. C, then RT, to me.

I'd probably go MONSTER back, then center, then tackle before thinking about guard, but, that's just me.

 

[TonyFtLaud]

Jax has reached a contract extension agreement with Bortles, they are out, not they were ever in the picture for Cousins.

 

[SackExchange]

Jax has reached a contract extension agreement with Bortles, they are out, not they were ever in the picture for Cousins.

This may have other ramifications, too. The one fit outside of the Giants I saw for Eli was Jax. With them committing to Bortles, Eli probably stays with the Giants. Could they actually bypass on going QB?

 

[TebowCan'tThrow]

$54M for Bortles?? Cousins will get $1B.

 

[TonyFtLaud]

$54M for Bortles?? Cousins will get $1B.

That is for 3 years.
Considering he played with the wrist injury since the end of 16, he should improve significantly now that it's been surgically repaired.
It's a fair deal. He had 19 guaranteed for 2019 , Now $26 guaranteed so not much has changed and I bet it is structured to give a lower cap hit in 2018.

 

[TonyFtLaud]

This may have other ramifications, too. The one fit outside of the Giants I saw for Eli was Jax. With them committing to Bortles, Eli probably stays with the Giants. Could they actually bypass on going QB?

I expected they would before this.
They we're terrible last year but we can't discount the injuries they had. I hate to say Barkley, (2) is still insanely high for a RB, but they have been desperate for a run game for years. With ODB, Sheppard, Lewis add a FA WR, Engram at TE, and Barkley, Eli could realistically thrive for a few more seasons.
They could also trade back, rebuild the O line and take Michel and say Penny.
They are sitting pretty nicely.
Could the Cardinals try and work a trade for Eli.
Small window for both, 2 time SuperBowl MVP for 3 years could make sense. Plus it's Win Win for both sides. Giants get an extra pick, second round maybe, Cards actually go from no QB to Eli.

 

[AFA2017]

Ar e we better off by trading our 2018 1st, 2nd , 4th and 2019 1st to the Browns for there 2018 1st. We will have our choice of the top QB's, but a slower rebuilding process.

 

[Gramoah]

Ar e we better off by trading our 2018 1st, 2nd , 4th and 2019 1st to the Browns for there 2018 1st. We will have our choice of the top QB's, but a slower rebuilding process.

Slowing down the rebuild would not sit well with Jets fans that are already complaining, unfairly, that it is taking too long.