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I'm hoping the media is manipulating us by making this Marrone thing more then it is. Want this to play out, and make sure they get the right guys. Wish Woody wasn't involved LOL
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I'm hoping the media is manipulating us by making this Marrone thing more then it is. Want this to play out, and make sure they get the right guys. Wish Woody wasn't involved LOL
I like Marrone simply because he has some experience as an NFL head coach. I don't want another rookie head coach. He has had some success, but also needs to improve, so he'll be hungry and has something to prove. This might be his dream job, being from the area and whatnot. But, even if it's not, he knows that if he wins here he'll be lengendary. He would not be settling for this job, he would be here because he wants to be here. If he can put together a good staff, I think he'll have success here.
i would think for most up & coming HC's all 32 spots are pretty much "dream jobs ," no??
the jets job according to rex was his end all be all but chances are that won't stop him from trying to find his new "end all be all" though..
i do believe we are in really good hands with casserly/wolf calling the shots, BTW..
we'll know soon enough won't we..
sounds like sour grapes to me.
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He was disliked by the fans in Buffalo before he quit. particularly after they lost to the Raiders with the season on the line
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Buffalo tension boils over in shouting match for Marrone, Bills officials September 5, 2014 10:01 am ET
Doug Marrone is set to begin his second season as Bills coach after going 6-10 in 2013. (USATSI)
Tension between Bills coach Doug Marrone and the team's front office spilled over recently in a loud verbal altercation on the practice field between the head coach and several team officials, according to numerous sources with knowledge of the situation, punctuating what had been a tumultuous preseason for the franchise as it awaits word on new ownership.
The Bills, currently for sale after the passing of founding owner Ralph Wilson with formal bids due by mid-September, made news in the preseason when Marrone, who can be combustible, erupted publicly after two straight days of explosive training camp fights. Issues between the coach and the media have come to the fore as well, with him now using public relations officials to address injuries during his news conferences. Behind the scenes, things have been festering as well, sources said, with the blow-up between team officials shortly before the end of the preseason and final cuts, within earshot of players, shocking many who witnessed it.
The incident began with Marrone, who sources said has had a strained relationship with director of player personnel Jim Monos from their time together in New Orleans, getting into a loud exchange with Monos in which the men were cursing at each other to the point where others noticed ("they were more or less MFing each other," is how one source put it). General manager Doug Whaley then intervened. The expletives continued and finally team president and acting owner Russ Brandon tried to defuse the situation by getting involved in an attempt to get all parties to "shut up," as one source put it. But that too escalated into more yelling and hollering, with Brandon and Marrone ultimately separated by their peers and Marrone, in earshot of players, making remarks along the lines of "go ahead and fire me," before order was restored and the team took the field for practice.
Arguments are not uncommon within NFL meeting rooms, and disagreements and debate can be healthy, but the nature of this episode -- not quarantined to a back room, and within the vicinity of players at practice -- struck several witnesses as highly unusual, as well as the fact it escalated from one official to the next. Marrone has also clashed with some players this offseason, most frequently linebacker Jerry Hughes, team sources said, and has made comments around the team which have drawn the ire of some players. Sources said Marrone has referred to himself as "Saint Doug" at times, referencing the fact that it takes two miracles to be canonized as a saint, and that he already pulled off one miracle by winning at Syracuse and alluding to the fact it would take another miracle to win in Buffalo.
The front office has also bristled at how certain players are being used, sources said. Team executives believe tackle Cyrus Kouandjio, this year's second-round pick, warranted more of a long look this summer, were unhappy that emerging receiver Robert Woods was benched at times, and they were also at odds over guard Kraig Urbik, who the personnel side believes is a quality guard (he just received a contract extension a few years back) but who Marrone has soured on (the team explored trades for Urbik before roster cuts, league sources said).
There is obvious uncertainty within the ranks as well about the future of the team, and how much change and transition is imminent with the club's sale likely finalized by the October NFL owner's meeting, and a new ownership team coming in (which generally leads to sweeping changes in short enough order). If Terry Pegula, owner of the Buffalo Sabres, has the winning bid -- and numerous league sources believe that's more or less a fait accompli --then it's less likely the franchise is overhauled right away, and could lead to fewer changes overall. Regardless, this is definitely a time when the entire organization is about to be more or less under review, a factor lost on no one there.
Expectations have been ratcheted up that this won't be another 6-10 season following successive bold moves in the first round to select under-fire quarterback EJ Manuel and then to deal next year's first-round pick as part of a package to move up and land receiver Sammy Watkins in May. But Manuel's progress remains very much in doubt, Watkins was banged up in the preseason and the offensive line could be a major cause of concern as well for Marrone, a former offensive coordinator in New Orleans, who will be expected to get things going on that side of the ball.
The Bills open their season Sunday against the Bears, and perhaps the series of events this summer will serve to bond them together. But there are also reasons for concern that some of these interpersonal dynamics will only end up leading to more issues through the season, particularly if the team struggles.
Doug Marrone is set to begin his second season as Bills coach after going 6-10 in 2013. (USATSI)
Tension between Bills coach Doug Marrone and the team's front office spilled over recently in a loud verbal altercation on the practice field between the head coach and several team officials, according to numerous sources with knowledge of the situation, punctuating what had been a tumultuous preseason for the franchise as it awaits word on new ownership.
The Bills, currently for sale after the passing of founding owner Ralph Wilson with formal bids due by mid-September, made news in the preseason when Marrone, who can be combustible, erupted publicly after two straight days of explosive training camp fights. Issues between the coach and the media have come to the fore as well, with him now using public relations officials to address injuries during his news conferences. Behind the scenes, things have been festering as well, sources said, with the blow-up between team officials shortly before the end of the preseason and final cuts, within earshot of players, shocking many who witnessed it.
The incident began with Marrone, who sources said has had a strained relationship with director of player personnel Jim Monos from their time together in New Orleans, getting into a loud exchange with Monos in which the men were cursing at each other to the point where others noticed ("they were more or less MFing each other," is how one source put it). General manager Doug Whaley then intervened. The expletives continued and finally team president and acting owner Russ Brandon tried to defuse the situation by getting involved in an attempt to get all parties to "shut up," as one source put it. But that too escalated into more yelling and hollering, with Brandon and Marrone ultimately separated by their peers and Marrone, in earshot of players, making remarks along the lines of "go ahead and fire me," before order was restored and the team took the field for practice.
Arguments are not uncommon within NFL meeting rooms, and disagreements and debate can be healthy, but the nature of this episode -- not quarantined to a back room, and within the vicinity of players at practice -- struck several witnesses as highly unusual, as well as the fact it escalated from one official to the next. Marrone has also clashed with some players this offseason, most frequently linebacker Jerry Hughes, team sources said, and has made comments around the team which have drawn the ire of some players. Sources said Marrone has referred to himself as "Saint Doug" at times, referencing the fact that it takes two miracles to be canonized as a saint, and that he already pulled off one miracle by winning at Syracuse and alluding to the fact it would take another miracle to win in Buffalo.
The front office has also bristled at how certain players are being used, sources said. Team executives believe tackle Cyrus Kouandjio, this year's second-round pick, warranted more of a long look this summer, were unhappy that emerging receiver Robert Woods was benched at times, and they were also at odds over guard Kraig Urbik, who the personnel side believes is a quality guard (he just received a contract extension a few years back) but who Marrone has soured on (the team explored trades for Urbik before roster cuts, league sources said).
There is obvious uncertainty within the ranks as well about the future of the team, and how much change and transition is imminent with the club's sale likely finalized by the October NFL owner's meeting, and a new ownership team coming in (which generally leads to sweeping changes in short enough order). If Terry Pegula, owner of the Buffalo Sabres, has the winning bid -- and numerous league sources believe that's more or less a fait accompli --then it's less likely the franchise is overhauled right away, and could lead to fewer changes overall. Regardless, this is definitely a time when the entire organization is about to be more or less under review, a factor lost on no one there.
Expectations have been ratcheted up that this won't be another 6-10 season following successive bold moves in the first round to select under-fire quarterback EJ Manuel and then to deal next year's first-round pick as part of a package to move up and land receiver Sammy Watkins in May. But Manuel's progress remains very much in doubt, Watkins was banged up in the preseason and the offensive line could be a major cause of concern as well for Marrone, a former offensive coordinator in New Orleans, who will be expected to get things going on that side of the ball.
The Bills open their season Sunday against the Bears, and perhaps the series of events this summer will serve to bond them together. But there are also reasons for concern that some of these interpersonal dynamics will only end up leading to more issues through the season, particularly if the team struggles.
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The Case Against Doug Marrone
By Scott Salmon @ScottSalmon48 on Jan 1 2015, 2:10p 161
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Last night, I was at a New Year's Eve party with a bunch of my old college buddies when news started trickling in that Doug Marrone had opted out of his contract. It was then followed up with multiple reports that the New York Jets were highly interested in Marrone. Assuming for a moment that the reports are accurate, and not something drummed up by a media pool that largely went to the journalism school at Syracuse University, I was very disturbed by this turn of events. Unfortunately, it marred an otherwise enjoyable evening. If the reports are true and the team does in fact hire Marrone, it will mar what is a unique opportunity for this franchise to finally turn things around.
Marrone is the guy you go to when you want to build your program into mediocrity. As the head coach of Syracuse, Marrone turned the program around into a 25-25 record... precisely .500. For the Buffalo Bills, Marrone has had a 15-17 record in two years. Three of those wins were against the catastrophic Jets, and one of which came in the last week when the New England Patriots benched their starters. Sure, he deserves credit for helping the bottom-dwelling Bills into not an embarrassment, which I suppose is an accomplishment, but it's not like he's also had any real success there either.
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I'm flummoxed as to how the national media is framing this story like the Bills just let Vince Lombardi get away.
10:56 PM - 31 Dec 2014
He is, additionally, famously thin-skinned when it comes to the media. Most teams have 3-4 beat reporters. The Jets have approximately twelve, and their fans notably flew banners and put up billboards when they were dissatisfied with the job their general manager was doing. Marrone has called out individual reports whose articles he didn't like:
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So, um, this could kind of be an issue if he joins the #Jets
(via @viccarucci) #marrone #gottahaveathickskin
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But as I noted last night, I believe it 100%. For all the tough guy act he put on, Marrone was incredibly thin-skinned to criticism.
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Finally, as John B. pointed out, Marrone is an offensive coach whose offenses aren't very good. He runs a particularly conservative offense, and despite having two good wide receivers in Sammy Watkins and Robert Woods, along with C.J. Spiller and Fred Jackson, often struggled. His hand-picked quarterback was benched barely into his second season for good. He was propped up by arguably the best defense in the league, and still missed out on the playoffs. What has Marrone ever done that we should be hopeful about? Why can we now expect him to turn things around on a team with both a worse offense and defense?
The Jets have Marrone's interview scheduled for after they get back from Seattle. Hopefully they'll find their head coach there and not choose Marrone. Now is the time when we can find someone that will transform the organization into the twenty-first century. Marrone would not be a step back; he'd be standing in place.
By Scott Salmon @ScottSalmon48 on Jan 1 2015, 2:10p 161
Kirby Lee-USA TODAY Sports
Last night, I was at a New Year's Eve party with a bunch of my old college buddies when news started trickling in that Doug Marrone had opted out of his contract. It was then followed up with multiple reports that the New York Jets were highly interested in Marrone. Assuming for a moment that the reports are accurate, and not something drummed up by a media pool that largely went to the journalism school at Syracuse University, I was very disturbed by this turn of events. Unfortunately, it marred an otherwise enjoyable evening. If the reports are true and the team does in fact hire Marrone, it will mar what is a unique opportunity for this franchise to finally turn things around.
Marrone is the guy you go to when you want to build your program into mediocrity. As the head coach of Syracuse, Marrone turned the program around into a 25-25 record... precisely .500. For the Buffalo Bills, Marrone has had a 15-17 record in two years. Three of those wins were against the catastrophic Jets, and one of which came in the last week when the New England Patriots benched their starters. Sure, he deserves credit for helping the bottom-dwelling Bills into not an embarrassment, which I suppose is an accomplishment, but it's not like he's also had any real success there either.
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I'm flummoxed as to how the national media is framing this story like the Bills just let Vince Lombardi get away.
10:56 PM - 31 Dec 2014
He is, additionally, famously thin-skinned when it comes to the media. Most teams have 3-4 beat reporters. The Jets have approximately twelve, and their fans notably flew banners and put up billboards when they were dissatisfied with the job their general manager was doing. Marrone has called out individual reports whose articles he didn't like:
Kimberley A. Martin ✔ @KMart_LI
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So, um, this could kind of be an issue if he joins the #Jets
(via @viccarucci) #marrone #gottahaveathickskin 10:47 PM - 31 Dec 2014
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But as I noted last night, I believe it 100%. For all the tough guy act he put on, Marrone was incredibly thin-skinned to criticism.
9:26 AM - 1 Jan 2015
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Finally, as John B. pointed out, Marrone is an offensive coach whose offenses aren't very good. He runs a particularly conservative offense, and despite having two good wide receivers in Sammy Watkins and Robert Woods, along with C.J. Spiller and Fred Jackson, often struggled. His hand-picked quarterback was benched barely into his second season for good. He was propped up by arguably the best defense in the league, and still missed out on the playoffs. What has Marrone ever done that we should be hopeful about? Why can we now expect him to turn things around on a team with both a worse offense and defense?
The Jets have Marrone's interview scheduled for after they get back from Seattle. Hopefully they'll find their head coach there and not choose Marrone. Now is the time when we can find someone that will transform the organization into the twenty-first century. Marrone would not be a step back; he'd be standing in place.
I love it.
I don't want some shrinking violet as head coach. Go get this guy.
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Doug Marrone Is The Greatest Human Being In The History Of Earth
By Sean Keeley @SeanKeeleyIsMe on Jan 15 2010, 10:48a
We like to keed with Bud Poliquin around these parts but to be fair, Bud just did the one thing no one else has been able to do in the last month. Find Syracuse football coach Doug Marrone. Holed up in a secret bunker miles below the Rocky Mountains (assumed), Marrone has been fine-tuning his off-season plan to prepare for next season. With the recent rash of rumors that he might be a candidate for the Tennessee job, Syracuse fans scoffed at the possibility while letting the notion creep into the back of their minds that maybe, just maybe, Doug isn't going to come through on what he's been saying.
Well Doug emerged from his hideaway for the briefest of moments to assure you, Syracuse fan, that anyone who thinks he might jump ship can go straight to hell. In as many words.
"I don’t respond to the question. I hear it and I say, ‘Wait a minute. Haven’t you been listening to me since I got here? Come on. Do you realize what we’re trying to accomplish here?’ With everything I’ve said and with everybody knowing how I feel about this place, I don’t think I have to release any kind of statement."
"I won’t allow somebody to get that quote," said Doug, who served as the Vols’ tight ends/tackles coach in 2001. "I have a lot of friends and family in the state of Tennessee. That’s where my wife is from. So for me to come out and comment in any way on their program or their situation or my status . . . I’m just not going to do it. I’m not going to put a negative spin out there. That’s why I haven’t commented and that’s why I won’t comment."
Who's got two thumbs and is the greatest guy ever? THIS GUY!!!
Marrone also made up for his lack of information-giving over the last four months by dropping several nugget bombs:
• The goal in 2010? Bowl game.
• He continues to look for someone else to be offensive coordinator but considers the possibility that he might take that role as "an option."
• Marrone is aware of Casullo's dalliances with Cornell but hopes to have him back on staff.
• He expects Delone Carter back in an orange uniform in 2010.
• The West Coast offense, whatever that means these days, will be back. Kinda. Depending. Whatever.
Of course, it wouldn't be a Bud article if there wasn't at least one strange or creepy notion...
"...a dozen or so recruits will be on campus this weekend and they’ll need to be romanced."
Yes, that's exactly how they do it....IN PRISON.
By Sean Keeley @SeanKeeleyIsMe on Jan 15 2010, 10:48a
We like to keed with Bud Poliquin around these parts but to be fair, Bud just did the one thing no one else has been able to do in the last month. Find Syracuse football coach Doug Marrone. Holed up in a secret bunker miles below the Rocky Mountains (assumed), Marrone has been fine-tuning his off-season plan to prepare for next season. With the recent rash of rumors that he might be a candidate for the Tennessee job, Syracuse fans scoffed at the possibility while letting the notion creep into the back of their minds that maybe, just maybe, Doug isn't going to come through on what he's been saying.
Well Doug emerged from his hideaway for the briefest of moments to assure you, Syracuse fan, that anyone who thinks he might jump ship can go straight to hell. In as many words.
"I don’t respond to the question. I hear it and I say, ‘Wait a minute. Haven’t you been listening to me since I got here? Come on. Do you realize what we’re trying to accomplish here?’ With everything I’ve said and with everybody knowing how I feel about this place, I don’t think I have to release any kind of statement."
"I won’t allow somebody to get that quote," said Doug, who served as the Vols’ tight ends/tackles coach in 2001. "I have a lot of friends and family in the state of Tennessee. That’s where my wife is from. So for me to come out and comment in any way on their program or their situation or my status . . . I’m just not going to do it. I’m not going to put a negative spin out there. That’s why I haven’t commented and that’s why I won’t comment."
Who's got two thumbs and is the greatest guy ever? THIS GUY!!!
Marrone also made up for his lack of information-giving over the last four months by dropping several nugget bombs:
• The goal in 2010? Bowl game.
• He continues to look for someone else to be offensive coordinator but considers the possibility that he might take that role as "an option."
• Marrone is aware of Casullo's dalliances with Cornell but hopes to have him back on staff.
• He expects Delone Carter back in an orange uniform in 2010.
• The West Coast offense, whatever that means these days, will be back. Kinda. Depending. Whatever.
Of course, it wouldn't be a Bud article if there wasn't at least one strange or creepy notion...
"...a dozen or so recruits will be on campus this weekend and they’ll need to be romanced."
Yes, that's exactly how they do it....IN PRISON.