Woody to hire Casserly as consultant

Elias

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Thanks TJ. I like this idea. Casserly comes off as vet knowledgeable on TV and I like this idea. This could only mean that we are firing Idzik which is welcoming.
 

ChiJet

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Is anyone familiar with Casserly's general philosophy when it comes to free agency and the draft?

Also does anyone know how he feels about Mariota and Winston?
 
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flgreen

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Now that every one agrees that Casserly is a good move, here's an interview he did in October on the Jets.

If this is any indication on what he is going to advise Woody to do, Rex is back, Idzik gone. Interesting read


Charley Casserly: ‘Not Enough Talent For Jets To Compete’
October 16, 2014 11:36 AM

The New York Jets have lost five straight games, and the bleeding doesn’t figure to stop this week – or any time soon.

The Jets play bitter AFC East rival New England in Foxboro on Thursday. The Patriots have scored 80 points in their last two games, both wins, while the Jets are averaging just 13.3 points per game over the last month.

With Rex Ryan’s playoff drought approaching four years, many believe his coaching days – at least in East Rutherford – are numbered. But given how little talent the Jets possess, is it really Ryan’s fault that the team has struggled? Or does general manager John Idzik deserve the lion’s share of the blame?

“I would say having been in an organization, it’s hard to know from the outside-in who’s making the final decision on things,” former Washington general manager and current NFL Network analyst Charley Casserly said on The Morning Show. “For example, they took two corners in the first round. One is hurt (Dee Milliner), and the other one, (Kyle) Wilson, hasn’t panned out. So how much of that was the coaching staff? How much of that was the scouting staff? Who made the final decision? Those are the things you’re going to have to figure out – and that’s the owner’s job to figure that out.”

The Jets used their first-round pick this year on safety Calvin Pryor (18th overall) and took tight end Jace Amaro in the second round. They did take corners Dexter McDougle in the third round and Brandon Dixon in the sixth, but most of their picks – from wide receivers to offensive linemen to linebackers – simply haven’t made an impact.

“This year, they did not take a corner (in the first round) – and they were in desperate need of a corner,” Casserly said. “Cincinnati took Darqueze Dennard from Michigan State (24th overall), who was rated about in the middle of the first round. Now, he’s not playing for them because they have a lot of other corners, but they do like him there.

Not addressing the cornerback position was huge because (of) two things: One, any time you talk to Rex Ryan, he says, ‘Give me corners. That’s what I need, is corners.’ When you watch their defense, they’ve never had a legitimate outside pass rusher you have to game-plan against. But by having good corners, Rex is as good as anybody in the league at designing blitzes to get people free.

“So that’s an example of the front office not getting what the coach needs,” Casserly continued. “From the outside-in, that’s the obvious one we look at there
. It’s a legitimate question because clearly there’s not enough talent around that football team to compete. I thought Rex should have been the coach of the year at 8-8 last year.”


Moving to the college ranks, Casserly isn’t convinced that Jameis Winston is going to drop in the draft as much as people think.

“First of all, he only needs one team to make it happen,” Casserly said. “On the field, he has to perform at a high level, which he has shown he can do. I think (he has to have) no more issues. I think he’s going to have to do a great job of explaining the issues to everybody about what happened – and the big thing there is, (you can’t) catch him in a lie.”

Finally, on a personal note, Tiki Barber, who grew up a Washington fan, wanted to know why Casserly didn’t draft him in 1997. Washington took defensive end Kenard Lang with the 17th pick, while Barber slipped to the second round.

“At the time we had some good backs,” Casserly said, chuckling. “So that was no reflection on you.”
 
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ucrenegade

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doesn't mean rex will be back but it does sound like his number one thing is to give the coaches what they need not necessarily what they want.
 
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flgreen

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doesn't mean rex will be back but it does sound like his number one thing is to give the coaches what they need not necessarily what they want.

Casserly loves Rex. Talks him up every chance he gets. Don't think it's an accident Woody chose him as a consultant. Depending on what actual role he plays here, it doesn't guarantee Rex's return, by sure extends the odds
 

Bronx

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Sounds like he does like Rex. Doubt that mean anything. I'm scared we wind up with another Herm, Mangini or worse Kotite
 

jetgreen13

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Charley Casserly: ‘Not Enough Talent For Jets To Compete’
October 16, 2014 11:36 AM

Not addressing the cornerback position was huge because (of) two things: One, any time you talk to Rex Ryan, he says, ‘Give me corners. That’s what I need, is corners.’ When you watch their defense, they’ve never had a legitimate outside pass rusher you have to game-plan against. But by having good corners, Rex is as good as anybody in the league at designing blitzes to get people free.

“So that’s an example of the front office not getting what the coach needs,” Casserly continued. “From the outside-in, that’s the obvious one we look at there
. It’s a legitimate question because clearly there’s not enough talent around that football team to compete. i thought Rex should have been the coach of the year at 8-8 last year.”
holy bleep ole rex just might keep his job after all.. did woody hire casserly because he knows he likes rex?? I said it would be a hard sell to keep rex but he hires someone who just might advocate it?? has woody found his "sell??"

idzik?? not lookin 'nearly as good for him..

flgreen, I thought you were half kidding suggesting casserly might hire himself as GM.. LOLz maybe he will!! at 66 he should have enough gas in the tank for one last go at it..
 

Xmarco

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He should clean the whole organization top to bottom...this article seems like Monday won't be bloody enough for me
 
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flgreen

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holy bleep ole rex just might keep his job after all.. did woody hire casserly because he knows he likes rex?? I said it would be a hard sell to keep rex but he hires someone who just might advocate it?? has woody found his "sell??"

idzik?? not lookin 'nearly as good for him..

flgreen, I thought you were half kidding suggesting casserly might hire himself as GM.. LOLz maybe he will!! at 66 he should have enough gas in the tank for one last go at it..

In answer to your first question, Yes I think one of the reasons Woody brought Casserly in is because he likes Rex. It would give him credibility in retaining Rex. Casserly is very highly regarded in NFL circles. He was who I wanted when they hired Idzik.

IMO this is all very bad news for Idzik. Why would you bring in an ex-GM, who is only 66, to find your next HC when you have a sitting GM.

Again IMO Casserly may have already been offered the GM position. He may have declined it (likes his TV job, no stress) Or is thinking it over, with the agreement he will help find the next GM. Or they are just waiting for the season to end to announce it.

What ever, it is good news for the Jets. I hope they hire Casserly. He has had success elsewhere, and he's not to old that the game has passed him by.
 

Bronx

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I think the fan revolt and hit in the wallet makes it impossible to keep Rex, no matter how much Woody likes him. I just hope he learned a lesson from this season. We should never enter another season with such glaring holes
 

EBoozer32

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Coach and GM Candidates

Coach and GM Candidates

Listen, despite all of Rex's blunders on the field and off, I like the guy. That being said... he is not Head Coach material. He is a Defensive Coordinator. We need a Head Coach who players fearfully respect. This team needs discipline and work ethic. Talent( which we have very little of) can only take you so far. We need hard workers who know their role and those around them.

I'm sorry, but we need a John Harbaugh type coach. Expects the best from his players and they trust him to make the right decisions in crunch time... something Rex is poor at. Someone who makes half-time adjustments, who schemes around the opponents weakness.

Get me a tough as nails coach who doesn't say a lot, whips guys into shape and has the players RESPECT (not love). Then get a GM who can evaluate talent and knows some scouts who can evaluate talent! Bradway..GONE!
Get me a football guy in the front office. IDZIK...GONE

I'd take Sean Payton if he's gone, Pep Hamilton, Gase or Bevell.

Here's a good article on potential GM Candidates!!

Last season's NFL champion was coached by a man who once was fired by the Jets and later was canned by the Patriots. In the Super Bowl, he beat a coach who was fired by the Panthers. And that coach, to get to the big game, beat another coach who long ago was whacked by the Browns.

The point here? Forever, NFL wisdom has held that coaches can benefit long-term from getting the ax.

So why doesn't that go for general managers, as well?

We briefly addressed the question in this notebook a few weeks back. And in the time since, feedback from league folks has rolled in, flowing right into the time of year when my annual "Future General Managers" list runs.

The fact remains, Washington Redskins GM Bruce Allen is the only man in that position that has held the same title somewhere else, which is striking when you count up the nine NFL head coaches who are in second-chance situations, and even more amazing when you look at retread success stories like Ron Wolf, Ernie Accorsi, Bobby Beathard and Bill Polian.

"All these second-chance head coaches, you always hear, 'Well, they learned so much from the experience,' " one current general manager said. "It's like any other job. The second-chance head coaches -- (John) Fox, (Andy) Reid, (Bill) Belichick -- they are better for the experience. It's like Jay Gruden said, he didn't realize the enormity of the job when he took it. For a GM, you have to manage departments, assess value. It's bizarre to me that you wouldn't want someone with experience."

One NFC executive laid out three reasons for this to us:

1) In the past, there has been less turnover in GM jobs than with coaches.
2) There are fewer young GMs than young head coaches, so fewer go back into the cycle.
3) There's less of a natural progression back after being fired, where coaches can immediately rebuild their reputation as coordinators. (Ken Whisenhunt's arc from 2012 to '14 is a good example.)

The executive then speculated that things could change this year, because two of the above conditions have shifted. The cycle has accelerated -- so fewer GMs are getting second shots at hiring coaches or drafting quarterbacks -- and there are more front-office folks in their late 30s and early 40s. That means the market for a new GM -- and there could be a half-dozen or so teams seeking one in a few weeks -- is more complex than it's been.

So with that in mind, we're presenting our candidates for 2015 in two groups: the second-chancers and the first-timers:

SECOND-CHANCERS

Mark Dominik, ESPN analyst: Was a Buccaneers lifer before being shown the door at the end of last season, so Dominik was part of a championship group early on and built a team that still has young talent. His downfall as GM in Tampa Bay was striking out on his first draft pick -- quarterback Josh Freeman -- which seriously set the franchise back.

Tom Heckert, director of pro personnel, Denver Broncos: Something of a victim of circumstance in Cleveland, Heckert built the foundation for a contending Browns team -- and he sparkled as an evaluator prior to that in Philly. In Denver, the team's success in free agency says plenty about Heckert. He did have a DUI arrest in 2013.



Jeff Ireland, consultant: Last year, CBS Dallas did a study, based on games played and starts, that ranked Miami as the NFL's top drafting team from 2009 to '13. And Ireland drafted Ryan Tannehill between Robert Griffin III and Brandon Weeden during that run. He wasn't perfect, but he was better than you think.

Scot McCloughan, consultant: McCloughan left Trent Baalke and, later, Jim Harbaugh with an incredibly talented team that made three straight NFC title games in San Francisco and was the righthand man to Seahawks GM John Schneider as Seattle became a champion. The Raiders could be a fit here.

Scott Pioli, assistant GM, Atlanta Falcons: Pioli's time in Kansas City carried off-field drama, but the on-field cupboard he left Andy Reid was fairly full. He drafted or re-signed nine Pro Bowl players in K.C. and left the new regime with $20 million in cap space. It wouldn't be shocking if the Jets inquired here.

Mike Tannenbaum, coaching agent: A hard run at a title after consecutive AFC title game appearances left the Jets in a tough spot after his ouster, but he got the team there in the first place and fostered an inclusive environment that people in that building have learned to appreciate in the two years since.

Brian Xanders, senior personnel executive, Detroit Lions: As Broncos GM, Xanders built the roster that lured Peyton Manning, with Demaryius Thomas among the franchise-level talents acquired. And in Detroit, he's spearheaded an effort to modernize the scouting operation and was part of a coaching search.

FIRST-TIMERS

Chris Ballard, director of player personnel, Kansas City Chiefs: Pulled his name out of the Tampa search last year, and he will probably be the first guy on a few lists. Has extensive experience in both college and pro scouting.

Nick Caserio, director of player personnel, New England Patriots: Many took his Dolphins interview in January as a signal that he's ready to seriously consider leaving Foxborough. Instrumental in Belichick's recent Patriot makeover.



Harrison: Power Rankings, Week 15

In the latest edition of his weekly NFL pecking order, Elliot Harrison welcomes a familiar team back into the top five. READ


Eric DeCosta, assistant GM, Baltimore Ravens: Not a whole lot needs to be said about DeCosta, who has Ozzie Newsome's job waiting for him. It'd take a gold-standard gig (see: Giants) to pry him from that.

Brian Gaine, director of pro personnel, Houston Texans: Was a candidate for recent openings with the Rams, Jets and Dolphins, and is a trusted voice in the building of the new Bill O'Brien regime.

Tom Gamble, vice president of player personnel, Philadelphia Eagles: Carries a big stick as an evaluator for Chip Kelly and played a major role in the Niners' recent revival. The Jets interviewed him in 2013 and could circle back.

Will McClay, assistant director of player personnel, Dallas Cowboys: McClay has ascended to the top of the personnel department in Dallas. And with the Cowboys' resurgence, he should become a hot name.

Terry McDonough, vice president of player personnel, Arizona Cardinals: Worked for Belichick in Cleveland and Newsome in Baltimore, and the Cardinals' success has restored his rep after some tough years in Jacksonville.

Rick Mueller, director of pro personnel, Philadelphia Eagles: Mueller's work has flown under the radar, but he's a valued voice in Philly. And he played a big role in putting Sean Payton's Saints in position to routinely contend.

Ryan Pace, director of player personnel, New Orleans Saints: You never hear much about Pace -- and that's by design. But he leads the personnel side under GM Mickey Loomis, and has drawn interest in the past.



Jon Robinson, director of player personnel, Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Robinson spearheaded solid Patriots drafts in 2010, '11 and '12, and joined Tampa in May. Some believe he could eventually land in Houston.

Matt Russell, director of player personnel, Denver Broncos: Widely regarded as one of the NFL's best evaluators of college talent, Russell is a confidant of John Elway on all decisions. Like Heckert, he has a 2013 DUI to explain.

Duke Tobin, director of player personnel, Cincinnati Bengals: Like McClay, Tobin works in an owner-centric model, and has played a substantial role in stocking a very talented roster.

Lionel Vital, director of player personnel, Atlanta Falcons: A Tampa finalist last year, Vital occupies the spot that current GMs Les Snead and David Caldwell once filled. Like McDonough, has a Belichick/Newsome pedigree.

Eliot Wolf, director of pro personnel, Green Bay Packers: Ron Wolf's son would be very young (32) to be a GM, but he is considered a rising star in the business. The success of John Dorsey and Schneider certainly doesn't hurt.



http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...nager-candidates-new-names-and-familiar-faces
 
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flgreen

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I think the fan revolt and hit in the wallet makes it impossible to keep Rex, no matter how much Woody likes him. I just hope he learned a lesson from this season. We should never enter another season with such glaring holes

I honestly don't think the fan revolt is directed against Rex. Yes there is a % of very vocal fans who hate Rex, but I think they are in the minority.

The fan revolt is mostly directed against Idzik. I think most fans have a soft spot for Rex, but just feel, as jetgreen said, he is just a hard sell, and time for Rex to move on.

If they bring in a new GM, who is well know, and has been successful, it will Cause a bit of excitement among hard core fans (I'm a bit excited thinking Casserly might come here as GM) and give credibility to keeping Rex at least one more year. Rex has 2 more years left on his contract, but only one is guaranteed.

Not saying that any of this is going to happen, but it makes sense to me. I like it
 
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I honestly don't think the fan revolt is directed against Rex. Yes there is a % of very vocal fans who hate Rex, but I think they are in the minority.

The fan revolt is mostly directed against Idzik. I think most fans have a soft spot for Rex, but just feel, as jetgreen said, he is just a hard sell, and time for Rex to move on.

If they bring in a new GM, who is well know, and has been successful, it will Cause a bit of excitement among hard core fans (I'm a bit excited thinking Casserly might come here as GM) and give credibility to keeping Rex at least one more year. Rex has 2 more years left on his contract, but only one is guaranteed.

Not saying that any of this is going to happen, but it makes sense to me. I like it
If Casserly feels he can maybe supply Rex with a couple of players he can work with and a strong OC , then sign me up for another year. Maybe Casserly is that guy who can remove the stench from this organization. I'm already a little excited to what's ahead.
 

Xmarco

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If Casserly feels he can maybe supply Rex with a couple of players he can work with and a strong OC , then sign me up for another year. Maybe Casserly is that guy who can remove the stench from this organization. I'm already a little excited to what's ahead.

No No No...Rex had his chance with his OCs time to end this
 

TebowCan'tThrow

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If Casserly feels he can maybe supply Rex with a couple of players he can work with and a strong OC , then sign me up for another year. Maybe Casserly is that guy who can remove the stench from this organization. I'm already a little excited to what's ahead.

I like Rex and I want him to succeed wherever he goes. Sometimes its just time to clean house and this is the right time to do it.
 
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