Watch Jonas Schwartz, Ray Lucas, Mike Westhoff, and Willie Colon break down the loss

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[Mainejet]

Already saw and I completely agree.

 

[forevergreen]

I miss Westoff - he would of been a great HC. Our special teams was phenom when he was running it.

 

[Mainejet]

I miss Westoff - he would of been a great HC. Our special teams was phenom when he was running it.

+1

I love how this guy just tells it like it is. He doesn't hold back for the betterment of the team. He's also full of ideas on how to counteract various things that the opponent does. He's a strategist - something we do NOT seem to have in KR or Toilet. The Jets offense was owning the patsies for two thirds of the first half. After Belichick made adjustments Toilet and KR were HELPLESS to counteract what Belichick did. It's as if they are incapable of making adjustments on the fly?

Football games are chess games. If your HC is unable to make adjustments during the game, then he's NOT a competent HC. It's really that simple.........

 

[forevergreen]

+1

I love how this guy just tells it like it is. He doesn't hold back for the betterment of the team. He's also full of ideas on how to counteract various things that the opponent does. He's a strategist - something we do NOT seem to have in KR or Toilet. The Jets offense was owning the patsies for two thirds of the first half. After Belichick made adjustments Toilet and KR were HELPLESS to counteract what Belichick did. It's as if they are incapable of making adjustments on the fly?

Football games are chess games. If your HC is unable to make adjustments during the game, then he's NOT a competent HC. It's really that simple.........

I dont think we have had a coach capable of making adjustments since Parcel.

Todd Bowles - Defensive Coordinator without HC experience - no offense experience
Rex Ryan - Defensive Coordinator without HC experience - no offense experience
Eric Mangini - Defensive Coordinator without HC experience - no offense experience
Herm Edwards - Defensive Assistant - not even a coordinator without HC experience - no offense experience
Al Groh - Defensive Coordinator & Special Teams without HC experience
Parcels/Bellicheck

Actually we have to go back to Kotite....before we get to a true offensive coordinator - maybe that is why the Jets have overreacted so much over the years and only hired Def. Coordinators and Assistants.

Making changes is hard when your HC is learning on the job and is uncomfortable with offense and your OC is brand new at making the calls.

 

[jetgreen13]

I dont think we have had a coach capable of making adjustments since Parcel.

Todd Bowles - Defensive Coordinator without HC experience - no offense experience
Rex Ryan - Defensive Coordinator without HC experience - no offense experience
Eric Mangini - Defensive Coordinator without HC experience - no offense experience
Herm Edwards - Defensive Assistant - not even a coordinator without HC experience - no offense experience
Al Groh - Defensive Coordinator & Special Teams without HC experience
Parcels/Bellicheck

Actually we have to go back to Kotite....before we get to a true offensive coordinator - maybe that is why the Jets have overreacted so much over the years and only hired Def. Coordinators and Assistants.

Making changes is hard when your HC is learning on the job and is uncomfortable with offense and your OC is brand new at making the calls.

hell, how many players on the offensive side of the ball have been 1st rounders here durning the timeline you laid out??

 

[forevergreen]

Not many, I think we have had 1 since 2009 which is sanchez. Here is the list:

8 D-LINE
3 Line Backers
2 Quarter Backs
2 Tight Ends
1 Wide Receiver
2 Offensive Linemen
3 Corner Backs
2 Safeties

16 1st round picks used on defense since 2000
7 1st round picks used on offense since 2000

9 1st round picks used on defense since 2009
1 1st round pick used on offense since 2009

2 draft busts from 2000 to 2008 (Gholston and Robertson)
5 real draft busts and possible even 8 from 2009 to present (sanchez, wilson, coples, milner, pryor real busts) (wilkerson, richardson, lee potential busts)

2000 to 2008 bust percentage 13 total picks, 2 busts = 15.4% bust rate
2009 to present bust percentage 10 total picks, 5 busts = 50% bust rate with potential for 80% bust rate

1. 1998 None
2. 1999 None
3. 2000 Shaun Ellis DE
4. 2000 John Abraham LB
5. 2000 Chad Pennington QB
6. 2000 Anthony Becht TE
7. 2001 Santana Moss WR
8. 2002 Bryan Thomas DE
9. 2003 Dewayne Robertson DT
10. 2004 Jonathan Vilma LB
11. 2005 None
12. 2006 D'Brickshaw Fergusen OT
13. 2006 Nick Mangold C
14. 2007 Darrelle Revis CB
15. 2008 Vernon Gholston DE
16. 2008 Dustin Keller TE
17. 2009 Mark Sanchez QB
18. 2010 Kyle Wilson CB
19. 2011 Muhammad Wilkerson DL
20. 2012 Quinton Coples DE
21. 2012 Dee Millner CB
22. 2012 Sheldon Richardson DE
23. 2014 Calvin Pryor S
24. 2015 Leonard Williams DE
25. 2016 Darron Lee LB
26. 2017 Jamal Adams S