The Honey Badger is a microsoymism of the Jets franchise for nearly five decades

[Green Jets & Ham]

https://www.sny.tv/jets/news/report-...xans/268941600

I can't believe we lost this playmaker to the Texans for a mere 1 Year/7 Million.

This was an opportunity to take a particular unit (Secondary) from GOOD to GREAT, and we had the money to make it happen.

But this is the history of the Jets in a nutshell, just when they are on the precipice of creating a great unit, with that one missing piece sitting there to be had, they drop the ball ... and worse of all, they lose him for what amounted to chump change, and for what, so they could keep TOAST SKRINE as their Nickel, a guy who makes his living getting burned, getting called for P.I.'s, not making plays, and not taking the ball away?

Same Old Jets to miss out on this golden opportunity:

CB Trumaine Johnson
S Jamal Adams
S Marcus Maye
CB Morris Claiborne
NB The Honey Badger

Hey, but at least we signed Isaiah Crowell and Josh McCown.

 

[Green Jets & Ham]

[h=2]Sorry fellas, but we're still in the exact same position[/h] 6 win team or 7 wins team, at best ... aka the worst place you can possible be, even worse than rock bottom.

If we signed the Honey Badger that could have made a big difference, Suh would have made a difference too, and its absolutely essential to draft a FQB and stud edge rusher. Who here has confidence that Mac and Bowles can close the deal?

They couldn't even close the deal on the Honey Badger, and he settled (incredibly) for a 1 Year/7 Million dollars deal.

Thats how inept this organization is.

 

[Green Jets & Ham]

[h=4]How the hell can we lose the Honey Badger for 1 Year/7 Million?[/h] He’s 25 years old and one of the best playmakers in the secondary in all of football.

I would have offered him 4 years for 40 million, MORE if necessary, which is to say, I would have blown the Texans out of the water.

… and this kid would have been worth every penny!

In todays NFL your Nickel is a starter, I would have dumped TOAST Skrine in a heartbeat for the Honey Badger.

Makes me physically ill that we didn’t do exactly that.

END OF RANT

 

[Green Jets & Ham]

Okay I lied, rant not over yet, one more thing ....

Here's the difference between the Yankees and the Jets.

Yankees led the league in HR's last year. LAST THING they needed was another HR hitter. But there was an opportunity to go out and get the NL MVP and preeminent HR hitter in all of baseball, the only guy who hit even more HR's than Judge, and matched him for distance too, and they said F--K IT, we have a chance to take this thing to a whole nother level, to a modern day murderers row that will absolutely bludgeon pitchers to death, so lets GO FOR IT!!!!!

IOW's if they had an opportunity to add the Honey Badger to what was always an impressive unit, and the actual price was a joke, biggest steal in free agency by a country mile, but even if they had to double or triple the Texans offer, whatever, if they saw an opportunity to take their secondary to a whole new level by adding one of the elite play-making DB's in all of football, only 25 Y.O., there's no chance in hell they don't move heaven and earth to acquire that player, critics be damned.

Thats the difference between how WINNERS and LOSERS think.

 

[maxmet]

for all we know he just didnt want to come to the jets or new york - could be that family connection to Bowles is a negative

for all we know there is some other negative - like why didnt some other team go to 8 million?

but your rant is fun

 

[SackExchange]

There is such a thing as a salary cap. While I would have loved Mathieu, to condemn the Jets for not signing him is just ridiculous.

Honestly, many of the fans who would bash the Jets for not bringing in yet another member of the secondary are the same ones who would criticize the team for not having the cap space to upgrade other parts of the team. Remember how much abuse the Jets got for continuing to draft and invest in defensive linemen? Well, they made the defensive line great, and got bashed for ignoring other areas of the team.

You can't have it both ways.

 

[flgreen]

Got to say at that price I'm really surprised the Jets didn't sign him. $7M is a steal.
I wouldn't have signed Suh though, bringing back Sheldon would have made sense if they were going DL. Didn't see how much he signed with the Vikings for

 

[flgreen]

There is such a thing as a salary cap. While I would have loved Mathieu, to condemn the Jets for not signing him is just ridiculous.

Honestly, many of the fans who would bash the Jets for not bringing in yet another member of the secondary are the same ones who would criticize the team for not having the cap space to upgrade other parts of the team. Remember how much abuse the Jets got for continuing to draft and invest in defensive linemen? Well, they made the defensive line great, and got bashed for ignoring other areas of the team.

You can't have it both ways.

When was the D line great? They had potential great players, but under achieved. IMO thats on coaching

 

[SackExchange]

When was the D line great? They had potential great players, but under achieved. IMO thats on coaching

You could argue the DL was great when it was the Sons of Anarchy, yes? I would.

 

[BlindsideD'Brick]

Ham, you lost me at Suh.

Why in the world would we bring that punk here? One of the dirtiest players in the league. Teams have been growing tired of his act for years, which is why he’s on the move again. He would destroy any positive culture change we’ve built over the course of unloading problem children over the last two years.

That at would be like bringing Vontez Burfict here. A loose cannon, 15 yard penalty machine.

 

[jetgreen13]

You could argue the DL was great when it was the Sons of Anarchy, yes? I would.

i wouldn't..

 

[LIJETFAN]

Green Jets - He's a good player, but he's coming off two injuries, and we have promising young talent both safety spots. This is hardly a crisis of epic proportions. The fact that the Cardinals let him go, when they certainly could use his skills on the back-end may indicate that they believe he is not going to be quite the same player. I'm sure some consideration was given to adding him to the roster. But the Jets have to make decisions based on needs, and they have other needs. He found a team where he fits, good for him. I don't believe adding him to the roster immediately translates into wins, which is the crux of your argument. He's not Von Miller, he's a good player, at a position of strength on this roster. He went somewhere else, no big deal.

The Jets not signing him is certainly not a failure on the part of the Jets brass. You make the assumption that Mac could have just signed him because, well that's how it works. That's not how it works. Players choose teams for a variety of reasons. Maybe he didn't want to come here at all. You don't know and you never will. So while I appreciate the desire to have him on the roster, the fact he signed elsewhere is not indicative of any failure on the part of the Jets management. Nor is it indicative of the Jets future, or a Same Old Jets move. It's none of those things. It's Free Agency. We didn't sign Cousins, did you make the same argument? QB is a far more important position than safety. Do the Jets permanently suck because we didn't sign Cousins? Of course not. Same applies here.

Side note, I think the word you wanted to use is spelled microcosm.

 

[cheaterhater]

Got to say at that price I'm really surprised the Jets didn't sign him. $7M is a steal.
I wouldn't have signed Suh though, bringing back Sheldon would have made sense if they were going DL. Didn't see how much he signed with the Vikings for

I think 1 year 8 mil from viks. I'd Have liked him back. Maybe next year

 

[Green Jets & Ham]

There is such a thing as a salary cap. While I would have loved Mathieu, to condemn the Jets for not signing him is just ridiculous.

Honestly, many of the fans who would bash the Jets for not bringing in yet another member of the secondary are the same ones who would criticize the team for not having the cap space to upgrade other parts of the team. Remember how much abuse the Jets got for continuing to draft and invest in defensive linemen? Well, they made the defensive line great, and got bashed for ignoring other areas of the team.

You can't have it both ways.

What was the point of signing Bridgewater AND McCown for a combined 25 million?

Bridgewater at 15 million would have been more than enough, then we could have drafted a QB at 6 or moved up a little to insure we get one.

That alone would have saved us at least another 10 million to offer the Honey Badger, which I would have done without blinking.

And that would have had us in a much better position for the present and the future.

But Bowles thinks Josh McCown is Joe Montana.

 

[mydogisajetsfan]

Very curious move indeed. Not really sure what Mac's thinking or plan is here. From what I've read (take that for what's it's worth) he has almost $40mm cap space AFTER paying the rookies. And in reality signing the Honey Badger would have cost him virtually nothing after cutting Skrine. There is more to the story that currently meets the eye. Why wouldn't any other team sign him for that amount or more?

 

[cheaterhater]

i wouldn't..

Yeah. For all the great things we heard about them, they never lived up to the hype

 

[mydogisajetsfan]

What was the point of signing Bridgewater AND McCown for a combined 25 million?

Bridgewater at 15 million would have been more than enough, then we could have drafted a QB at 6 or moved up a little to insure we get one.

That alone would have saved us at least another 10 million to offer the Honey Badger, which I would have done without blinking.

And that would have had us in a much better position for the present and the future.

But Bowles thinks Josh McCown is Joe Montana.

Teddy will only earn $15mm if he meets or exceeds various thresholds which, if he does, everyone on this site would jump for joy. The thing I wish Mac did, was give the team an option for a second year, that way, if a rookie QB explodes on the scene, and Teddy is healthy, he is trade bait, ala the Eagles.

 

[mydogisajetsfan]

Teddy will only earn $15mm if he meets or exceeds various thresholds which, if he does, everyone on this site would jump for joy. The thing I wish Mac did, was give the team an option for a second year, that way, if a rookie QB explodes on the scene, and Teddy is healthy, he is trade bait, ala the Eagles.

Mac didn't have much of a choice but to sign both. It would have been foolish to just sign Teddy due to his injury history and he needed a backup besides Hackenburg. This move was to cover up Mac's huge mistake of drafting Hack in the second round two years ago. And if he doesn't sign McCown, it signals his intention of drafting a QB in round 1. That would reduce his leverage to trade up which I believe he intends to do.

Does anyone know if McCown's deal is guaranteed? If it's not, and Mac pulls off a trade with the Colts or Browns to get Rosen or Mayfield, then McCown could be cut as a player and signed as a coach with the option of coming back in an emergency if needed. I don't think there's much doubt that Mac will do whatever he has to to get his future QB.

 

[cheaterhater]

I enjoyed the rant. We may still be a 6-7 win team, but hey, the afc is filled with crappy teams so you never know. We certainly won't be winning 12-13 which is what it will take to be in a race for the division. But hopefully we are getting better

 

[SackExchange]

What was the point of signing Bridgewater AND McCown for a combined 25 million?

Bridgewater at 15 million would have been more than enough, then we could have drafted a QB at 6 or moved up a little to insure we get one.

That alone would have saved us at least another 10 million to offer the Honey Badger, which I would have done without blinking.

And that would have had us in a much better position for the present and the future.

But Bowles thinks Josh McCown is Joe Montana.

As I understand it, Bridgewater's base is around $5 million. The other $10 million are incentive-based. And if Bridgewater is 100% healthy and returns to his Pro Bowl and Rookie of the Year form at the age of 25, it will be worth the other $10 million to have a 25-year-old franchise QB on the roster.

I know it doesn't fit with the SOJ argument.