Jets acquire 3rd pick from Colts

[Green Jets & Ham]

I agree we gave up a lot, but if we get a franchise QB, that is worth three 2nd rounders any day. If the Jets draft well, and they maneuver a bit on draft day, they can acquire additional picks in other rounds to add depth. The Jets must feel there is strength in the later rounds at positions of need, so that allowed them to make this move. I think the best part of this trade for us (beside the #3 pick) is that the Jets didn't have to give up next year's 1. So, yeah we gave up a lot, but all things considered, to hopefully get the guy we want, it was a very smart move.

Bottom line, this is considered a terrific QB class at the top, particularly the top four, all of them have flaws you can pick apart if you want too, but they are all legit BLUE CHIP QB Prospects, so those top 4 picks were in demand and it was always going to cost a kings ransom to go up and get one. I'm a big DRAFT CHART GUY, but my friend at another board was right, when it comes to blue chip QB prospects, you can take that chart and toss it in the garbage.

Its supply and demand, and there is a huge demand (and small supply) for blue chip QB prospects in a QB driven league.

 

[TonyFtLaud]

I have been saying that the draft chart has no bearing on early first round picks for months. Especially top 5 picks and when a QB is in play. Compared to other similar trades, Mac actually got good value. Let's just hope the Giants don't trade back with Denver or the Bills.
im sure Mac attempted to trade up to 1 and 2 but was refused or the asking price was too high.
I'm also sure that they have 2-3 QBs graded fairly equally or this trade would not have happened.

Overall it's a great move.
Lock down the QB position and there will still be a very large ammoam of money to spend in Free agency next off-season to make up for the 3 seconds given up.

 

[TebowCan'tThrow]

They would have paid a lot more for third pick come draft day

Possibly. We will never know what it would have cost on draft day when the Colts are desperate to trade out.

 

[TebowCan'tThrow]

I have been saying that the draft chart has no bearing on early first round picks for months. Especially top 5 picks and when a QB is in play. Compared to other similar trades, Mac actually got good value. Let's just hope the Giants don't trade back with Denver or the Bills.
im sure Mac attempted to trade up to 1 and 2 but was refused or the asking price was too high.
I'm also sure that they have 2-3 QBs graded fairly equally or this trade would not have happened.

Overall it's a great move.
Lock down the QB position and there will still be a very large ammoam of money to spend in Free agency next off-season to make up for the 3 seconds given up.

For most teams I would say that is true. This is the Jets and this regime has already proven they can't draft the right QB. They better get this right or it will set them back many years unless Teddy B gets back to form. I will be happy if they get the right QB, but I know there is a better than 50% chance they won't.

 

[Gramoah]

The price is steep but it would be when so many are vying for a top spot to land a QB. I don't have any problem with the price IF the guy they pick actually is our franchise quarter back. By the way, let me ask guys, which one is that ? ? ? I don't have a clue. In my mind they are all projects that may or may not evolve into that category. So let me ask again.....which one ? I can see one thing already, about two thirds of us are going to be, at least initially, disappointed with the pick because there seems to be a big difference of opinion on who that should be. I can hardly wait to see this drama unfold. GOOD LUCK MAC !! You're going to need it.

 

[SackExchange]

Possibly. We will never know what it would have cost on draft day when the Colts are desperate to trade out.

With these QBs, more teams would be desperate to trade in than the Colts would be to trade out.

 

[mydogisajetsfan]

Mac badly messed up his first free agency class. He fixed that. Mac had a terrible first draft and he fixed that (somewhat). Mac had terrible second round picks. He fixed that. Mac badly messed up his first two QB picks. Let's hope he fixes that.

 

[mydogisajetsfan]

I think the one and only reason Mac made this trade was to give us endless amounts of fodder on these sites.

 

[mydogisajetsfan]

I think the one and only reason Mac made this trade was to give us endless amounts of fodder on these sites.

Seriously though, I think this changes the free agency calculus for Mac. I believe he needs to fix the WR/TE and OLB/DE problem before the season starts and he may go with one year contracts for older, established players. I'm fine with that as long as they're only one year deals. Teddy or Rosen/Darnold/Allen will need to have a reliable outlet to throw the ball to. He also needs to beef up that anemic pass rush or that expensive and talented secondary will not do well.

 

[jets82]

The part that is so stupid is they did this so early. This should have been a draft day trade. Left the door open for someone like the Bills to jump them. Typical Jets.


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Might have (no, not might have but definitely would have) cost the Jets a lot more if they waited till draft day. It would have been an all out bidding war with the Bills, Jets and Broncos probably for the Colts spot. Made more sense to do it now. I’m guessing the Jets have already thought that out and figured it doesn’t matter if someone jumps ahead of them because they’ll get who they want regardless. Maybe they have all three or atleast two QBs evenly evaluated. I’m just happy they’re going for it regardless and not standing on this QB veteran rethread BS they’ve been doing for the past few years. Whether this works out or not, I give them props and I can live with the results. Plus we have Bridgewater as a fall back. If he can return to form and fully healthy.

 

[Green Jets & Ham]

The price is steep but it would be when so many are vying for a top spot to land a QB. I don't have any problem with the price IF the guy they pick actually is our franchise quarter back. By the way, let me ask guys, which one is that ? ? ? I don't have a clue. In my mind they are all projects that may or may not evolve into that category. So let me ask again.....which one ? I can see one thing already, about two thirds of us are going to be, at least initially, disappointed with the pick because there seems to be a big difference of opinion on who that should be. I can hardly wait to see this drama unfold. GOOD LUCK MAC !! You're going to need it.

I suspect Darnold and Rosen are going 1 and 2, in no particular order, but probably Darnold 1 and Rosen 2. That means the Jets are going to have one of the most interesting, and difficult choices I can imagine. Mayfield and Allen are polar opposites. Mayfield is coming off back to back years that were literally ALL TIME GREAT YEARS for a college QB in terms of passing statistics, and they won a lot of football games too. I don't think people realize how unique it is to be a +70% passer in consecutive seasons, in big-time D1A, and as a downfield passer, not some dink and dunk artist. His TD's to INT's were fantastic too, as was his yardage etc. He was basically like the college football version of Drew Brees. But therein lies the dilemma, like Brees and Russel Wilson he's a small QB by NFL standards, and he played mostly if not exclusively out of the shotgun. IOW's he is NOT the prototype, whereas Josh Allen is, and he has a cannon for an arm, however he wasn't even a 60% passer in a much weaker conference.

So the Jets will probably have a dilemma, draft the better QB right now, albeit not the prototype, or gamble on the extraordinary tools of someone who did not even approach Mayfield's level of success as a passer in college, despite his size and Elway'esque arm.

I'm glad I don't have to make that choice.

 

[JetsInTyme]

Oh it is indeed a great day to be wearing Green. And if I start to think about those three 2nd rounders I just think of the Names Gino, Amaro & Devin Smith. The worry just goes away

 

[TebowCan'tThrow]

Oh it is indeed a great day to be wearing Green. And if I start to think about those three 2nd rounders I just think of the Names Gino, Amaro & Devin Smith. The worry just goes away

That’s a good point. The Jets have sucked in every round of every draft but nothing quite like the 2nd reaches and busts.


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[cheaterhater]

So, this one single move will be Mac's legacy. He will either be the greatest american hero or he will eventually lose his job because of it.

I wouldn't have done it unless I was sure that the QB left at #3, which by the way will be a guy who was passed up by 2 other teams drafting QB's ahead of us, the guy that 2 other teams deemed not worthy, that's who we will get. And not only that but we will have to chose between 2 guys and get the right one. What do you guys think the odds of this working out are.

Last year the talk was that this was the greatest qb class. this year it became a crap shoot QB class. I'd have stayed put at 6 and taken who ever was left and if no one was left then BPA. And Hope bridgewater returns to form, which has just as good of a chance for success as the 3rd QB picked in the draft

and I don't think the 1 addition to our oline is going to give any of these guys a chance to succeed so I hope to hell we are still looking to improve that in free agency as we just moved our draft picks way down the line.

and just because our 2nd round picks have traditionally sucked doesn't mean that this years or next years would to. That's 3 shots at getting it right thrown out the window. Heck if that is a reason to give our 2nd round picks away then we might as well not draft a QB either because we haven't ever gotten that one right

of course if whoever they draft becomes the next Peyton Manning then throw out everything I just said

definitely adds a little excitement to the off season though. who's going to start next season becomes the question and if it's not the draft pick then we won't know if this was a good move for a long time

 

[BlindsideD'Brick]

You cannot compare Hackenberg and Petty selections with this opportunity. This is a whole different ballgame. Those two picks were Macc 1) really taking a leap with Hackenberg even though most disagreed, and then 2) taking a 4th round prospect with a chance to stick as a backup.

We have an opportunity now to get a FRANCHISE QB. Something we haven’t had in like....when? Ever? Namath? Macc set the immediate future with Bridgewater and McCown for 2018. For 2019 and beyond, the youngster gets the right amount of time to get acclimated.

The more I think about it, this is better than getting Cousins. This is how good football teams are built.

Bravo, Maccagnan.

 

[TebowCan'tThrow]

With these QBs, more teams would be desperate to trade in than the Colts would be to trade out.

Possibly, but its not like these QB's are the Class of '83.

 

[cheaterhater]

and I know at least one guy on this site who would rather bring back Tebow then draft Mayfield so most likely that leaves just 1 QB to pick from if you feel the same way

 

[BlindsideD'Brick]

It seems like some fans want it both ways. They want to criticize Maccagnan for whiffing on Hackenberg, but then say “you better get this right!” when he shows some stones and gives up some serious draft capital to attempt to put this team in the upper echelon of the league.

 

[SackExchange]

Possibly, but its not like these QB's are the Class of '83.

No, but it's one of the closest classes I have seen to that.

 

[cheaterhater]

You cannot compare Hackenberg and Petty selections with this opportunity. This is a whole different ballgame. Those two picks were Macc 1) really taking a leap with Hackenberg even though most disagreed, and then 2) taking a 4th round prospect with a chance to stick as a backup.

We have an opportunity now to get a FRANCHISE QB. Something we haven’t had in like....when? Ever? Namath? Macc set the immediate future with Bridgewater and McCown for 2018. For 2019 and beyond, the youngster gets the right amount of time to get acclimated.

The more I think about it, this is better than getting Cousins. This is how good football teams are built.

Bravo, Maccagnan.

Right. If it works out right. Look at this board. If we got to pick at #1 for the Jets, there would be 4 different arguments for 4 different guys. Odds are 4 guys in the same draft aren't going to end up being franchise QB's. maybe they will but it would be unlikely. we will get a guy that 2 other teams picked a different QB over and we have to pick between the 2 that are left. Man, I hope we do this right