Official 'Mock Drafts' Thread

[Green Jets & Ham]

As the combine, pro days and draft approaches, and let's be honest, for us (Jets fans) the draft process has already started, I thought it might make sense to consolidate all mock drafts (ourselves and others) into one thread rather than have them scatter them all over the forum.

I'll start with Daniel Jeremiah's first mock draft, updated Jan. 18, 2019

 

[Green Jets & Ham]

Walter Football (Walt) - Updated Jan. 17, 2019

 

[Green Jets & Ham]

Walter Football (Charlie Campbell) - Updated Jan 18, 2019

 

[Bigmoe]

Have they been good on predictions in the past ?
Im hoping for Josh Allen as much as I wanted Darnold
He will literally make the defense legit like we're hoping from Sam and the offense

 

[Green Jets & Ham]

Have they been good on predictions in the past ?
Im hoping for Josh Allen as much as I wanted Darnold
He will literally make the defense legit like we're hoping from Sam and the offense

I try to only use the sites/draft gurus who are most reputable, those are the only one I will post, other than my own LOL, but I can't tell other posters which mocks to post or not post because we all have our particular favorites.

I love Allen too, been touting him for months, but the thing I found most interesting in Jeremiah's mock, he has RB Josh Jacobs going #5 overall.

 

[BlindsideD'Brick]

It’ll be interesting to see how G.Williams constructs this D around what he already has, and what he’s gonna need. If we’re going more 4-3, then Q. Williams (DT/DE) makes more sense than Allen. But if it’s a 4-3/3-4 mix on D, then an Edge like Allen makes sense, too.

I just don’t see the high impact offensive player available for the Jets at 3. No lineman or wideout is justifiable with that pick.

 

[TonyFtLaud]

Have they been good on predictions in the past ?
Im hoping for Josh Allen as much as I wanted Darnold
He will literally make the defense legit like we're hoping from Sam and the offense

Hitting on 8-10 picks in a mock draft is considered excellent. The way most sites score mocks success credits the author if they pick the correct position. Day Darnold was mocked 1 to the Browns last year, even though Mayfield was selected, the author is credited with an accurate pick because the position was correct.
Jason Boris has had the most accurate drafts over the past decade. He only puts out one mock just prior to the draft. Not multiple mocks with changes at the last minute.
I wouldn't put too much stock into these extremely early mocks. There will be injuries, arrest, off field incidents. The workout animals at the combine, players who have big senior bowl practices, trades and free agency. Today's mocks will barely resemble the final mocks.

 

[Green Jets & Ham]

I just don’t see the high impact offensive player available for the Jets at 3. No lineman or wideout is justifiable with that pick.

True, but there is an elite RB prospect who could be a dark horse for the Jets at #3

The two highest graded players are probably both on defense; Nick Bosa and Quinnen Williams.

If a team trades into the TOP 2 for a QB, one of the above slides to the Jets and he will hard to pass on. But assuming the two best players go 1 and 2 and the Jets can't find enough value to trade down, they will probably have to choose between a defensive and offensive player. The defensive player is most likely Allen (3-4), or Gary (4-3).

The offensive player, not counting QB's because we are clearly not drafting a QB, is probably RB Josh Jacobs.

IOW's I agree with you that there is no LT (or any OL), or an elite #1 WR worthy of taking at #3, but in recent years elite RB's have been making a big impact again, especially when easing the transition of young QB's to the NFL (i.e. Gurley, Elliott etc.). So RB's being drafted high is back in fashion, particularly as the league transitions to a new generation of FQB's. Elite franchise RB's can take half the burden off these QB's, keep defenses honest, thus ease their transition into the NFL and give them the best chance to succeed.

That said, Jacobs is not only a terrific runner with power, elusiveness (cutbacks), vision and burst, good speed for his size too, but he's also a terrific receiver. This is exactly the kind of elite RB and dual threat who can make life a lot easier on Sam in year two, because RB's don't take time to groom. Great RB's are born, not made. When you draft an elite franchise RB and GET IT RIGHT, he almost always hits the ground running in the NFL, starting week one, unlike most if not all other positions that require growing pains and grooming.

Another plus for Jacobs, Saban used a three RB's rotation at Bama', so there's a lot less wear and tear on Jacobs than the normal elite RB prospect.

1. CARDINALS - Bosa or Quinnen
2. 49ERS - Bosa or Quinnen
3. JETS - Allen, Gary or Jacobs ... and don't be surprised if it's Jacobs.

Daniel Jeremiah's TOP 50 big board:

 

[BlindsideD'Brick]

Josh Allen was a beast at Kentucky with 17 sacks and 5 forced fumbles last year. (He’s also originally from NJ). The only question is scheme fit. He looks like a 3-4 edge rusher. If Williams is emphasizing a 4-3, it might not be a fit.

Those stats are eye popping. I’m not certain Allen drops to 3 anyway. He could go 1 or 2 ahead of Bosa. His stock is going to rise as the draft nears. Just watch.

 

[TebowCan'tThrow]

True, but there is an elite RB prospect who could be a dark horse for the Jets at #3

The two highest graded players are probably both on defense; Nick Bosa and Quinnen Williams.

If a team trades into the TOP 2 for a QB, one of the above slides to the Jets and he will hard to pass on. But assuming the two best players go 1 and 2 and the Jets can't find enough value to trade down, they will probably have to choose between a defensive and offensive player. The defensive player is most likely Allen (3-4), or Gary (4-3).

The offensive player, not counting QB's because we are clearly not draft a QB, is probably RB Josh Jacobs.

IOW's I agree with you that there is no LT (or any OL), or an elite #1 WR worthy of taking at #3, but in recent years elite QB's have been making a big impact again, especially when easing the transition of young QB's to the NFL (i.e. Gurley, Elliott etc.). So RB's being drafted high is back in fashion, particularly as the league transitions to a new generation of FQB's. Elite franchise RB's can take half the burden off these QB's, keep defenses honest, thus ease their transition into the NFL and give them the best chance to succeed.

That said, Jacobs is not only a terrific runner with power, elusiveness (cutbacks), vision and burst, good speed for his size too, but he's also a terrific receiver. This is exactly the kind of elite RB and dual threat who can make life a lot easier on Sam in year two, because RB's don't take time to groom. Great RB's are born, not made. When you draft an elite franchise RB and GET IT RIGHT, he almost always hits the ground running in the NFL, starting week one, unlike most if not all other positions they require growing pains and grooming.

Another plus for Jacobs, Saban used a three RB's rotation at Bama', so there's a lot less wear and tear on Jacobs than the normal elite RB prospect.

1. CARDINALS - Bosa or Quinnen
2. 49ERS - Bosa or Quinnen
3. JETS - Allen, Gary or Jacobs ... and don't be surprised if it's Jacobs.

Daniel Jeremiah's TOP 50 big board:

Was Jacobs even a starter?? That seems high for a RB on team that has a bad OL.

 

[Green Jets & Ham]

Was Jacobs even a starter?? That seems high for a RB on team that has a bad OL.

There was no starter per se. Saban deployed a three RB rotation regardless of who started the game, and they pretty much shared carries. Jacobs was one of the three, but to most observers he was clearly the best of the three, as a runner and a receiver, and had he been the proverbial 'feature back' he would probably have been a strong Heisman candidate, he's that good. It wasn't much different than Georgia the year before, splitting carries between Sony Michel and Nick Chubb, but both looked like and emerged as feature backs in the NFL; Michel (late1) for the Patriots and Chubb (early 2) for the Browns. Had just one of the two been the feature back at Georgia he probably would have been a Heisman finalist at the ceremonies.

That said, its a GOOD THING that Jacobs wasn't overused at Alabama, not a bad thing. It only means far less wear and tear entering the NFL. I would much rather have him entering the NFL with 250 touches as a runner and a receiver in college than closer to 500 touches as a runner and a receiver.

Lastly, I watched Michel and Chubb at Georgia, knew both could be feature backs in the NFL, but neither of them struck me (or Daniel Jeremiah) as potentially 'elite' the way Jacobs does. Some people are comparing him to a young Le'Veon Bell because he's such a dynamic dual threat.

I'm not saying Jacobs is the pick for the Jets, but Gase is an offensive coach who was hired to make Sam an elite QB and score a lot of points. If we stay at 3 I still think the odds are we'll take a defensive player, Bosa, Quinnen or Allen, much to the chagrin of Jet fans who want a LT or #1 WR (and I am one of them), because the grade disparity between those three defensive players and any LT or WR is just too wide, BUT there's a chance that Jacobs can sneak in there as an offensive skill position player with a close enough grade to take him. A lot of people slept on this kid because they didn't expect him to declare, and when he did it was fairly recent, so people are just catching up. But Jeremiah is right, Jacobs is a beast. Jeremiah (respected former NFL scout) may be the first to put Jacobs in his TOP 10 (#6), but you watch, he won't be the last.

 

[NewMFS62]

Josh Allen was a beast at Kentucky ...

So was Dewayne Robertson.
Later

 

[BlindsideD'Brick]

So was Dewayne Robertson.
Later

I thought that nightmare had been erased from my memory.

Thanks for the trip down memory lane.

 

[AFA2017]

Josh Allen was a beast at Kentucky with 17 sacks and 5 forced fumbles last year. (He’s also originally from NJ). The only question is scheme fit. He looks like a 3-4 edge rusher. If Williams is emphasizing a 4-3, it might not be a fit.

Those stats are eye popping. I’m not certain Allen drops to 3 anyway. He could go 1 or 2 ahead of Bosa. His stock is going to rise as the draft nears. Just watch.

Don't look at Allen not being a scheme fit in a 4-3. Allen also would make an awesome MLB.

 

[TebowCan'tThrow]

There was no starter per se. Saban deployed a three RB rotation regardless of who started the game, and they pretty much shared carries. Jacobs was one of the three, but to most observers he was clearly the best of the three, as a runner and a receiver, and had he been the proverbial 'feature back' he would probably have been a strong Heisman candidate, he's that good. It wasn't much different than Georgia the year before, splitting carries between Sony Michel and Nick Chubb, but both looked like and emerged as feature backs in the NFL; Michel (late1) for the Patriots and Chubb (early 2) for the Browns. Had just one of the two been the feature back at Georgia he probably would have been a Heisman finalist at the ceremonies.

That said, its a GOOD THING that Jacobs wasn't overused at Alabama, not a bad thing. It only means far less wear and tear entering the NFL. I would much rather have him entering the NFL with 250 touches as a runner and a receiver in college than closer to 500 touches as a runner and a receiver.

Lastly, I watched Michel and Chubb at Georgia, knew both could be feature backs in the NFL, but neither of them struck me (or Daniel Jeremiah) as potentially 'elite' the way Jacobs does. Some people are comparing him to a young Le'Veon Bell because he's such a dynamic dual threat.

I'm not saying Jacobs is the pick for the Jets, but Gase is an offensive coach who was hired to make Sam an elite QB and score a lot of points. If we stay at 3 I still think the odds are we'll take a defensive player, Bosa, Quinnen or Allen, much to the chagrin of Jet fans who want a LT or #1 WR (and I am one of them), because the grade disparity between those three defensive players and any LT or WR is just too wide, BUT there's a chance that Jacobs can sneak in there as an offensive skill position player with a close enough grade to take him. A lot of people slept on this kid because they didn't expect him to declare, and when he did it was fairly recent, so people are just catching up. But Jeremiah is right, Jacobs is a beast. Jeremiah (respected former NFL scout) may be the first to put Jacobs in his TOP 10 (#6), but you watch, he won't be the last.

I did one of those mock drafts on Fanspeak and I was able to get Jacobs in 5th round. I would actually love this draft.

1: R1P3
EDGE CLELLIN FERRELL
CLEMSON

2: R3P4
OT JAWAAN TAYLOR
FLORIDA

3: R3P29
WR HAKEEM BUTLER
IOWA STATE

4: R4P3
OT MARTEZ IVEY
FLORIDA

5: R5P2
RB JOSHUA JACOBS
ALABAMA

 

[jets82]

I did one of those mock drafts on Fanspeak and I was able to get Jacobs in 5th round. I would actually love this draft.

1: R1P3
EDGE CLELLIN FERRELL
CLEMSON

2: R3P4
OT JAWAAN TAYLOR
FLORIDA

3: R3P29
WR HAKEEM BUTLER
IOWA STATE

4: R4P3
OT MARTEZ IVEY
FLORIDA

5: R5P2
RB JOSHUA JACOBS
ALABAMA

I have to admit that as much as I would hate for the Jets to draft a pass rusher in the first round, with a draft like this I’d be pretty happy with it myself. I rather them go oline with the third pick or trade back and still go oline or WR in round one. However; this would be a very intriguing crop of players for the Jets. Two oline men that can hopefully start (if not day one then eventually), a hopefully dominating pass rusher in the first round (at the third pick he better be) and a WR and RB that can be day excellent one starters (with the current roster we have now.) Great job TCT!

 

[TebowCan'tThrow]

I have to admit that as much as I would hate for the Jets to draft a pass rusher in the first round, with a draft like this I’d be pretty happy with it myself. I rather them go oline with the third pick or trade back and still go oline or ER in round one. However; this would be a very intriguing crop of players for the Jets. Two oline men that can hopefully start (if not day one then eventually), a hopefully dominating pass rusher in the first round (at the third pick he better be) and a WR and RB that can be day excellent one starters (with the current roster we have now.) Great job TCT!

If only I had the same "resources" as Mac does.

 

[BlindsideD'Brick]

I have to admit that as much as I would hate for the Jets to draft a pass rusher in the first round, with a draft like this I’d be pretty happy with it myself. I rather them go oline with the third pick or trade back and still go oline or WR in round one. However; this would be a very intriguing crop of players for the Jets. Two oline men that can hopefully start (if not day one then eventually), a hopefully dominating pass rusher in the first round (at the third pick he better be) and a WR and RB that can be day excellent one starters (with the current roster we have now.) Great job TCT!

If the Jets stay at 3, you can pretty much guarantee it will be a defensive player. This is a very heavy defensive draft in the first 10 picks. The mocks have defensive linemen flying off the board in round 1.

Right now, I’m exploring ways to move back if I’m Macc. I feel like getting some picks back and taking a mid round offensive player to help Darnold is the way to go.

 

[Bigmoe]

Not a fan of the trade down .
At # 3 the Jets have the chance for a high impact player.
Yes those chances happen with lowers picks and later rounds we know this.
Chances are better with a top 5 pick for success .( excluding busts ) we know about this too
Unless you have a GM that scores consistently in later rounds.
I don't trust that from our Org. I think we all know this also.

 

[cheaterhater]

Not a fan of the trade down .
At # 3 the Jets have the chance for a high impact player.
Yes those chances happen with lowers picks and later rounds we know this.
Chances are better with a top 5 pick for success .( excluding busts ) we know about this too
Unless you have a GM that scores consistently in later rounds.
I don't trust that from our Org. I think we all know this also.

If we trade down a few spots and we know we can get the left tackle with the pick, then it's worth it. I suppose it depends on what we pick up in free agency