What bothered me the most about the Jets draft

Green Jets & Ham

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We traded down twice in RD 4

With the first trade down we missed on CB Julian Love (Giants) and Scat-Back Justice Hill (Ravens) who carried a 2nd RD Grade on my board.

With the second trade down we missed on ER Austin Bryant (Lions), another player who carried a 2nd RD Grade on my board, early 3 at the latest.

Then, after missing on all three of these players, we take a blocking TE/FB, the kind of player you normally draft in round 6 or 7 if not as UDFA's.
 

BlindsideD'Brick

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Green Jets & Ham;n176544 said:
We traded down twice in RD 4

With the first trade down we missed on CB Julian Love (Giants) and Scat-Back Justice Hill (Ravens) who carried a 2nd RD Grade on my board.

With the second trade down we missed on ER Austin Bryant (Lions), another player who carried a 2nd RD Grade on my board, early 3 at the latest.

Then, after missing on all three of these players, we take a blocking TE/FB, the kind of player you normally draft in round 6 or 7 if not as UDFA's.

If the Jets had taken Love, there’d be criticisms of him being too slow (4.54 40), lacks toughness, and injury prone. And Maccagnan would be called a buffoon for taking this player.
 

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If the Jets had taken Love, there’d be criticisms of him being too slow (4.54 40), lacks toughness, and injury prone. And Maccagnan would be called a buffoon for taking this player.
Honestly, I don't care about passing on Love, I just threw him in there because I know some Jets fans liked him.

The whiffs that bothered me most were the two guys I specifically cited as carrying 2nd RD Grades on my board, Justice Hill and Austin Bryant.

I hope I'm wrong and they both bust, while Wesco turns into a beast TE/FB who contributes as a receiver too.

I want to be wrong about this.
 

marac

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Passing on Lamont Gillard Center from Georgia is what bothered me the most. Our most glaring need.
 

BlindsideD'Brick

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I’m keeping an eye on all of these supposed “need picks” that we were supposed to take instead of who we actually took. I’m willing to bet most of them will bust or not live up to expectations.
 

NewMFS62

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It doesn’t matter what Macc does. Don’t you see? He’s going to get continuously slammed by his detractors over picks that didn’t line up with draft guides.
Maybe if he got slammed as hard as Darnold will be because of a mediocre (at best) o-line, he would come to his senses.
Later
 

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So Mac took an injury prone CB in the 6th round.

The thing is, I think that is what late round picks are for.

For all the talk about need, the likelihood of actually drafting a starter in a position of need after the third round is pretty damn low. That late in the draft, it's about swinging for the fences. It's about going for the guy who showed tremendous ability, but was hurt. Or the guy who had some sort of question mark drive him down the board. A late pick is basically a free roll of the dice.

Need is often overstated by fans, I think.
 

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does that count for the ones that annually fall into his lap??

When guys fall into his lap, it means other teams' GMs weren't smart enough to take those guys.

If it happened once, fine. Say he got lucky, chalk it up to chance, and don't give him credit. But it's happened like four times. That's more than a coincidence. And when he's not given credit for those picks, it seems a bit convenient to me.

Last year, when he traded up from 6 to 3, a lot of experts before the draft bashed him, saying he could end up with the third best QB on their board. But he didn't. He got what most would say was the top guy, and he did it without giving up a first rounder. Hell, the cost for Darnold has already been paid. No more picks. And no picks from next year to try to make up for the second rounder lost this year. Sam Darnold's pick compensation is 100% complete.
 

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Maybe if he got slammed as hard as Darnold will be because of a mediocre (at best) o-line, he would come to his senses.
Later

The Jets were 13th in sacks allowed in the league last year. If they were bad, what does that say about the 19 teams worse than them?
 

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Green Jets & Ham;n176544 said:
We traded down twice in RD 4

With the first trade down we missed on CB Julian Love (Giants) and Scat-Back Justice Hill (Ravens) who carried a 2nd RD Grade on my board.

With the second trade down we missed on ER Austin Bryant (Lions), another player who carried a 2nd RD Grade on my board, early 3 at the latest.

Then, after missing on all three of these players, we take a blocking TE/FB, the kind of player you normally draft in round 6 or 7 if not as UDFA's.

I agree but it could have been worse....a punt protector
 

butterscotch

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The thing is, I think that is what late round picks are for.

For all the talk about need, the likelihood of actually drafting a starter in a position of need after the third round is pretty damn low. That late in the draft, it's about swinging for the fences. It's about going for the guy who showed tremendous ability, but was hurt. Or the guy who had some sort of question mark drive him down the board. A late pick is basically a free roll of the dice.

Need is often overstated by fans, I think.

I think we feel we need a SB win
 

jets82

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Ham, I agree with your initial post for this thread 100 percent but allow me to take it a step further:

I’m not a college guy so please forgive me if I’m wrong and correct me as well. What bothered me the most about the draft is besides Williams and maybe Polite, it doesn’t seem like he picked the best players available at the positions he drafted them. I’m not talking about him drafting other position players beside who he drafted. I’m simply talking about him drafting higher graded players at each draft pick besides Williams and maybe Polite.

No I can’t give you the names of each player that would have been better or rated higher then the ones he drafted. However; from what I’m reading from you guys and going off the pundits ratings of players, besides Williams and maybe Polite, Mac did not draft the best players at the position he drafted them. Overall, Mac seemed to have reached quite a bit from the fourth round picks on, maybe even the Polite pick.

Polite has the potential to be an All-pro or better it appears. They said if it wasn’t for his attitude and off the field issues, he would he been a first round grade. So there probably wasn’t a ER available rating higher then him to draft. However; he is a big boom or bust risk player. So let’s all hope for the BOOM!

The oline men was a much needed pick but there were higher ranked oline men on the board to draft. Why didn’t Mac draft one of them? I guess it’s the relationship and familiarity he has with Darnold. That doesn’t mean it will transition into the NFL. Hopefully this kid turns out to be what we need.

Tresco pick was the same deal. I’m sure there had to have been better rated or at least one better rated TE then Tresco? His highlights look great so maybe he will turn out to be the real deal. The fact that he is a primary blocking TE and played a fair amount of FB, that should help the team greatly.

The CB is a true reach because of the injury risk. He has the size and skill set they say to be a true player but his INJURIES were serious business. If he’s truly recovered and can stay healthy then we may have ourselves a player but that is a big IF.

That other LB we drafted seemed to be totally unnecessary, unwarranted and overkill. Was this kid even worth drafting? Would anyone else have drafted him or could we have signed him as a UDFA? Will this kid even make the team or practice squad? Oh, did I forget to mention that this kid also has an injury history!!!

Overall, Mac seemed to reach on 4 and maybe even five of his picks and that ain’t good. That’s definitely not drafting smart. Adding salt to the wound was the two trades he made to draft these reach players. Let’s all hope it works out.
 
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