Things to look for in game two!

[jets82]

I agree with your first sentence, but SD had Anderson open 3 times deep and missed each time. The first two he underthrew and the third an overthrow. He hits one of those its a win. The OL play was really bad, and IMHO was the reason for the offense's poor performance. Hopefully, it was mostly communication and the lack of time the group actually played together.

Not making excuses for the kid but were those over or under thrown passes because of the pressure or was it all on Darnold? I remember that overthrown pass, he did have time and stepped into the throw. So that was on him but what about the under thrown passes?

 

[jets82]

[h=2]Things to look for in game two![/h]
Settiing the seats on fire by halftime

Hilarious!

 

[cheaterhater]

Kalil's advice to the young QB: 'When the pass rush comes ripping through, lie on the ground and pretend to be dead and eventually they'll lose interest and go away'.

In fairness to Darnold I've now watched several of yesterday's games and nowhere else was the QB surrounded by defenders at every snap.

not even brady? wasn't he under duress at all times like usual?

 

[TebowCan'tThrow]

Not making excuses for the kid but were those over or under thrown passes because of the pressure or was it all on Darnold? I remember that overthrown pass, he did have time and stepped into the throw. So that was on him but what about the under thrown passes?

Anderson never makes the tough contested catches.

 

[Old#15]

Not making excuses for the kid but were those over or under thrown passes because of the pressure or was it all on Darnold? I remember that overthrown pass, he did have time and stepped into the throw. So that was on him but what about the under thrown passes?

The two under-thrown balls were under duress, one on the run and it didn't look like his feet were set.

 

[jets82]

According to Rich Cimini, Ty Montgomery only had 5 snaps against the Bills. That’s just fucking ridiculous, horrible, unexplainable and horrible coaching. Where as Lev Bell had 67. Now ofcourse Bell should have had 67 but for what possible reason wasn’t Montgomery on the field just as much? Montgomery should have had at least 40 plays at RB and WR combined. Montgomery is a true weapon for us and the second to third best player we have, besides Bell and Crowder.

Once Herndon gets back then we’ll have another legit weapon. Anderson and Enunwa left a lot to being desired on that field for me yesterday. I wasn't that high on them in the first place and always felt they were average playmakers at best. The Jets have to correct that bullshit with Montgomery and get him on the field ALOT more. Bell and Montgomery both as RBs would be something to deal with. Bell At RB and Montgomery at WR is a beast also. Montgomery at H-back even and Bell at RB. Pick your poison just get the guy on the field and get him the damn ball.

 

[Old#15]

Anderson never makes the tough contested catches.

I think on both under-thrown balls, the DB had time to catch up and bat the ball away. Not sure if Anderson had a chance on 1 of the 2.

 

[jets82]

The two under-thrown balls were under duress, one on the run and it didn't look like his feet were set.

Yeah, that’s what I thought. Give Darnold some time and receivers that can actually get open and there’s no telling how good this kid could be. He was 28-41 with no help at other then Bell and Crowder. Imagine what he could have done to the Bills with four turnovers, a safety and a little more time to throw it and legit WRs to catch it.

 

[hatnlvr]

So either Anderson and Enunwa are complete trash or Darnold was slow on the reads. He was holding the ball way too long and almost never got it out quickly.

Now to Darnold's defense the Bills were all over him the entire game but a few quick slants, a few wheel routes attacking the edge, a few shots down the field, would have backed off the defense a bit and got the damn 9 men out of the box (we never forced them to adjust, they just stacked the box and attacked us the entire game)

After watching Enunwa and Anderson be at least above average receivers the past few years, I have a hard time believing they turned into XFL trash overnight. I think the game plan was crap and coaching staff did nothing to adjust.

There is plenty of blame to go around after this crap showing

 

[jets82]

So either Anderson and Enunwa are complete trash or Darnold was slow on the reads. He was holding the ball way too long and almost never got it out quickly.

Now to Darnold's defense the Bills were all over him the entire game but a few quick slants, a few wheel routes attacking the edge, a few shots down the field, would have backed off the defense a bit and got the damn 9 men out of the box (we never forced them to adjust, they just stacked the box and attacked us the entire game)

After watching Enunwa and Anderson be at least above average receivers the past few years, I have a hard time believing they turned into XFL trash overnight. I think the game plan was crap and coaching staff did nothing to adjust.

There is plenty of blame to go around after this crap showing

We’ll have to agree to disagree on the above average view here. I respect your opinion on them but I don’t agree with that. I’ll say their average at best and who knows, maybe a better QB over the past 4-5 years throwing the ball to them or all the other things you mentioned would have helped them display their talents more. It’s a long season to go so we’ll see what they do.

 

[hatnlvr]

We’ll have to agree to disagree on the above average view here. I respect your opinion on them but I don’t agree with that. I’ll say their average at best and who knows, maybe a better QB over the past 4-5 years throwing the ball to them or all the other things you mentioned would have helped them display their talents more. It’s a long season to go so we’ll see what they do.

Agree or not, they definitely aren't 1 catch for -4 yards bad LOL. Enunwa for most of last season looked like Darnolds favorite target and now he can't even catch the ball???

I don't know what your perspective on average/below average etc., but Enunwa's one healthy season he had over 860 receiving yards, and Anderson had 950 two season ago. If 1000 yard receiving is a great WR, I would say 850+ has to be above average, but that is all debatable.

Neither are #1 guys but I think both are solid 2-3 WR's. Yesterday's game they could have both been clamped on the sideline from what we saw (both were useless)

 

[jets82]

Agree or not, they definitely aren't 1 catch for -4 yards bad LOL. Enunwa for most of last season looked like Darnolds favorite target and now he can't even catch the ball???

I don't know what your perspective on average/below average etc., but Enunwa's one healthy season he had over 860 receiving yards, and Anderson had 950 two season ago. If 1000 yard receiving is a great WR, I would say 850+ has to be above average, but that is all debatable.

Neither are #1 guys but I think both are solid 2-3 WR's. Yesterday's game they could have both been clamped on the sideline from what we saw (both were useless)

Its not necessarily about the stats but truly the talent and skill level of the player. Mostly a combination of all three:

- Great IMO for example would be: AB, J. Jones, D. Hopkins, M. Thomas, M. Evans, Beckham Jr, K. Allen, T. Hill and A.J. Green

- Above average would be S. Watkins, A. Cooper, A. Robinson, Edelman, JuJu, T. Y. Hilton, C. Kupp, B. Cooks, Thielen, D. Adams and S. Diggs

-Average would be Anderson, Enunwa, T. Williams, Landry, Crowder, R. Woods, A. Jeffrey and L. Fitzgerald (who ofcourse is a first ballot HOFer and once a great receiver for a decade and a half at least but now is average at best)

Just a few examples IMHO.

 

[VincentL]

[h=2]things to look for in game two![/h]
settiing the seats on fire by halftime

lmao!

 

[VincentL]

O-line is a hot mess. Kalil is not in football shape. Saw him get manhandled multiple times. Communication is atrocious. Maccagnan's idiot legacy.

 

[TebowCan'tThrow]

I think on both under-thrown balls, the DB had time to catch up and bat the ball away. Not sure if Anderson had a chance on 1 of the 2.

Thats true, but I have consistently seen his scrawny ass get outfought for balls. He is a #2 and probably #3 WR at best.

 

[Xmarco]

Anderson doesn't fight for the underthrown pass... He could've adjusted to get the DB to PI but he is what he is... A low WR2or high 3 at best

 

[jets82]

Anderson doesn't fight for the underthrown pass... He could've adjusted to get the DB to PI but he is what he is... A low WR2or high 3 at best

Agreed

 

[hatnlvr]

Its not necessarily about the stats but truly the talent and skill level of the player. Mostly a combination of all three:

- Great IMO for example would be: AB, J. Jones, D. Hopkins, M. Thomas, M. Evans, Beckham Jr, K. Allen, T. Hill and A.J. Green

- Above average would be S. Watkins, A. Cooper, A. Robinson, Edelman, JuJu, T. Y. Hilton, C. Kupp, B. Cooks, Thielen, D. Adams and S. Diggs

-Average would be Anderson, Enunwa, T. Williams, Landry, Crowder, R. Woods, A. Jeffrey and L. Fitzgerald (who ofcourse is a first ballot HOFer and once a great receiver for a decade and a half at least but now is average at best)

Just a few examples IMHO.

Yeah our measurements for great is definitely different LMAO.

By your measurement only the top 1 percentile of WR's are great

IMO TY Hilton is a great WR (he's definitely top 10). Out of 194 WR's in the NFL I think it's a bit harsh to only count less than 1/2 a percent as great at what they do LOL

Julio Jones/Calvin Johnson/Randy Moss types are generational talents that come around once every decade or so. IMO can't use that as a barometer, those guys are the exception.

 

[jets82]

Yeah our measurements for great is definitely different LMAO.

By your measurement only the top 1 percentile of WR's are great

IMO TY Hilton is a great WR (he's definitely top 10). Out of 194 WR's in the NFL I think it's a bit harsh to only count less than 1/2 a percent as great at what they do LOL

Julio Jones/Calvin Johnson/Randy Moss types are generational talents that come around once every decade or so. IMO can't use that as a barometer, those guys are the exception.

I hear ya, guess I’m just a hard judge in that way. Here’s how hard of a judge I am, with the D. Thomas trade if he is 100 percent or close to being healthy he is IMO better then Enunwa and Anderson. Yes I know Thomas is past his prime but if he’s healthy he’s still better then Enunwa and Anderson to me.

 

[forevergreen]

Things to look for - offense vastly improves keeping us somewhat in the game in a shootout until we lose 28 to 24.

CB's cant cover so we use our safeties and double landry and odel. ILB is on tight end. God help us if Mosley doesnt dress. Leonard Williams sackless.....again and at least 1 missed field goal.

Honestly I think the offense will look sharper but unless we generate a pass rush against Clevelands broken oline - we will lose in a shoot out even if Sam plays well. We just do not have the weapons - unless Thomas can play like he did in the preseason which is doubtful in less than a week. Which means this is a game we will be entirely dependent on Crowder, Bell, and whoever else steps up. Put that up against Clevelands arsenal.

If you watch the Titans - they had generated a consistent pass rush which took baker and his weapons out. Then they built a lead and removed Clevelands run game as well since they were behind. We can only generate pass rush if our ILB and safeties help because we have no edgerusher and leonard stinks. So basically, if we do that then we have no ability to cover Clevelands WR's and TE's.