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cheaterhater

I've Lost My Fucking Mind
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Ok guys so in conclusion:

CheaterHater doesn't hate the HC who cheated (Bill Belichick) but instead hates Brady and loves Bill Belly Mumbles Hoodie Belichick 😁

PS: Bill Belichick is the only coach All-Time to be fined 2x because of cheating and NE only Franchise to lose multiple 1st round picks for cheating 😆
oh, I hate them both. just hate brady more especially since I have to hear his name or see his ugly face every time I turn on the tv, even though wirhout the other asshole, belichick, he woulsn't even exist.

and he's the arrogant sob that paid someone to deflate his balls after they were checked for pressure. who even thinks of something like that?
 

cheaterhater

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So manning not letting the Jets draft him makes him a good qb? A good guy? Or was he looking for a better team??? Ray boruque left Boston for Colorado did that make him a bad person or a smart one.
manning is an asshole for not going to the Jets. although that also makes him a genuis.

he is a good guy because he is a good guy.

like the one time when he yelled at an official then called him at home to apologize.
brady yells at officials every week
 

cheaterhater

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Look at base ball Roger Maris is the only legal substance batter to hit 60 Homer's but mantle if healthy may have had the record. As far as being healthy for brady so was hank Aaron (up until the shot lol) so longevity plays a part too.
healthy because it's illegal to touch him. I'm with Montana on that one
 

cheaterhater

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Wr can pick anything we want too & distortion of the records. But when you add it up he holds all the records , greatness , luck, cheating what ever he holds the records & has the rings. I would not want h I m on my team because I don't like him but with me winning is not everything
by the time he retires, he will also hold the record for most times sacked. hilarious as he is the least sacked Qb per dropback and also the least mobile.
 

skop

The Green Knight
Jet Fanatics
And which ******FRAUD****** wins 3 of 4 SBs due to having camera men record opposing teams practices ala spygate?

Bill Belichick is the biggest fraud who's ever lived to coach the game and I'm so thankful Mangini exposed him (before Tom Brady exposed him even more).

In two years away from Bill Belichick, Tom Brady had two winning seasons + a SB ring (something Mike Evans and plenty of other Buccaneers couldn't do without Brady).

In 9.2 years without Brady, Bill Belichick has never even ever made it past the 2nd round and failed to make the playoffs 7x 🤭

Do you have any respect for Ozzie Newsome, Scott Pioli, Nick Saban? these guys built any team they were a part of off of the principles that Belli taught them. not my words, but their's...watch "A Football Life The 1995 Cleveland Browns". it might open your eyes to what we saw when you were 10.

the 9.2 years you cite as Belli's failure is hypocritical on your part...you give Saleh and JD room to rebuild, but not Belli taking a train wreck in CLEVE to a playoff team, or the shambles of a NE Team with a few holdovers from a Playoff run 6 years earlier to a team made of all pro's "when Brady took over." Then, for the first time in seemingly decades, he has a down year in 2020.

as other teams rise and fall, NE Remained, and you want to give it all to Brady...ok, makes sense. he was there too.
riddle me this...how did Brady keep their D at the top of the league while losing:

McGinnest...no drop off.
Law...no drop off.
Milloy...no drop off.
Jones...no drop off.
Seymour...no drop off.
Wilfork...no drop off.
this list can go on and on and on and on and on...Get the pic?


Hint...shhhh!!! (whispering) the fraud replaced them all, and coached up their successors.

in the mid 80's, when Montana was making the QB Position into the "Stat That" position it is today, there were other teams like the Skins & "Riggo's Rangers", the Bears & "Sweetness", and the Rams & Dickerson. To keep the meek Offense of the G-Men in games, Belli convinced Parcells to take Carl Banks & Gary Reasons when they already had a good trio in LT, Carson, and VanPelt.

know why? because to be relevant he re-introduced the 3-4 to mitigate the WC offense while still being able to hang with power running teams.

Ask & answer 2 questions...

1.) is Parcells loyal to coaches or is he loyal to winning?
2.) why did he want Belli wherever and whenever he could have him?
 

butterscotch

Jets/Cards
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manning is an asshole for not going to the Jets. although that also makes him a genuis.

he is a good guy because he is a good guy.

like the one time when he yelled at an official then called him at home to apologize.
brady yells at officials every week
not as clean as you would think.

Is Peyton Manning a giant A-hole? | Phil Barber (pressdemocrat.com)

Peyton Manning Caught Saying Curse Word During Manningcast of Cardinals vs. Rams Playoff Game (popculture.com)
 
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cheaterhater

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2008 Cassel New England Patriots 16 516 327 63.37 3693 7.2 76 21 11 182 35.27 37 47 219 89.4
Why not 2007 Brady vs 2008 Cassel?

Because Tom Brady embarrassed Cassel?

Why 2008 Cassel vs. 2009 Brady?

Is it because you're trying to compare Cassel to a Tom Brady coming off of a serious season ending injury where he missed the entire season?

PS: In 2009 Tom Brady made the pro bowl and still put up better numbers than Cassel (even at his very worst).

Maybe I should compare 2008 Cassel under Belichick to Pro Bowl Cassel under Andy Reid 🤭😁
how about 2008 Cassel went 11-5. brady in 2009 10-6

but more importantly though to my arguement. Cassel had his highest rating by far that year. his first full year with essentially zero experience... and most yards by far... highest completion percentage... on belichicks team with bradys teammates

it's the system. and tampa was a handpicked all star team. the guys on espn said it all last year. not just me. kinda obvious if you look at them anyway.

had bellichick coached the bucs this year, he doesn't lose twice to Stafford and he wins the superbowl with that stacked team
 

butterscotch

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2008 Cassel New England Patriots 16 516 327 63.37 3693 7.2 76 21 11 182 35.27 37 47 219 89.4
how about 2008 Cassel went 11-5. brady in 2009 10-6

but more importantly though to my arguement. Cassel had his highest rating by far that year. his first full year with essentially zero experience... and most yards by far... highest completion percentage... on belichicks team with bradys teammates

it's the system. and tampa was a handpicked all star team. the guys on espn said it all last year. not just me. kinda obvious if you look at them anyway.

had bellichick coached the bucs this year, he doesn't lose twice to Stafford and he wins the superbowl with that stacked team

So did Warner on his first year in the NFL & he won the SB. We can go back & forth but Seven rings says it all......Look Plante Had Harvey & Ruth had Gehrig & Namath had Weeb etc, Gibson had Carlton & >>>>>>>> Mantle had Maris & yogi.......we can go on & on.

Look Maynard was great before he had Namath look at his records but he won with Namath.......Look Is an Italian Combo & Combo with just ham on it.....Becton don't answer this one.....makes me think that when he goes into a deli & orders a sandwich with a "side of ham" Does the guy know what he means????? Anyway if you have the greatest Cheater/Coach of all time & the greatest QB of all time can you fault them. Like Costello without Abbott. Or Hogan without his heroes.....again Becton not the sandwich...
 
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skop

The Green Knight
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@DefenseWinsChampionships...getting to understand the abrasiveness you encounter!
nobody gives a $h!t about the litany of stats you produce, because you produce them from a tremendously vacuous stand point.

The rest of us watched this dude while you were being born. We saw one of the greatest HC's of all time go out of his way to make him a part of his staff whenever & wherever he could.

we saw him take an absolute dumpster fire in CLEVE and make them SB FAVES in four years...the tree from that run is still producing Champs, AND THE LEAVES FROM THE TREE SHOWER HIM WITH THE CREDIT.

then he did it again in NE; you say he didn't...we know better bc we saw the whole story.

fuck your stats when you don't put them in proper context, because you're using them to show your @$$.
 

butterscotch

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@DefenseWinsChampionships...getting to understand the abrasiveness you encounter!
nobody gives a $h!t about the litany of stats you produce, because you produce them from a tremendously vacuous stand point.

The rest of us watched this dude while you were being born. We saw one of the greatest HC's of all time go out of his way to make him a part of his staff whenever & wherever he could.

we saw him take an absolute dumpster fire in CLEVE and make them SB FAVES in four years...the tree from that run is still producing Champs, AND THE LEAVES FROM THE TREE SHOWER HIM WITH THE CREDIT.

then he did it again in NE; you say he didn't...we know better bc we saw the whole story.

fuck your stats when you don't put them in proper context, because you're using them to show your @$$.
Look Shop I agree with you on 90% of this but DWC is allowed to have his opinion too. Some people use stats & some people use their eyes & some both. Some just hate the people. I for one don't like Billy Boy or tommy boy but I must say they are both great but not my type of people. In fact I will say that they are both the greatest of all time. that is IMO. So let DWC have his say & don't get angry at what he has to say. Again i agree with you. I love General Grant but many people say Lee was better.....Grant won & Lee lost but Grant had a better team around him....OK DWC give us the stats on this one. lol
 

skop

The Green Knight
Jet Fanatics
Look Shop I agree with you on 90% of this but DWC is allowed to have his opinion too. Some people use stats & some people use their eyes & some both. Some just hate the people. I for one don't like Billy Boy or tommy boy but I must say they are both great but not my type of people. In fact I will say that they are both the greatest of all time. that is IMO. So let DWC have his say & don't get angry at what he has to say. Again i agree with you. I love General Grant but many people say Lee was better.....Grant won & Lee lost but Grant had a better team around him....OK DWC give us the stats on this one. lol

he is absolutely allowed to have and encouraged to share his opinions.
I am merely pointing out that stats used as empirical data "and" without context do not prove points.

FTR, i cannot stand either of them. it pains me to articulate Belli's greatness, but the man is a genius.
 
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