What are the Jets looking for in free agency?

Gramoah

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Guess I'm not the only one that thinks a couple of high quality tight ends should be a priority and of course an edge rusher supreme.
 

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Let's see, how about Jerry Rice, Lawrence Taylor, Brian Urlacher, "the Sack Exchange". The rest can come from the Draft.
 

Tinstar

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Folks who fit our schemes and have a greater love for the game of football vs what it can get them . I know they stay that they would play for free, but let’s be honest, nobody is doing that.
To really excel at something you actually have to love it and that’s what I hope we’re looking for when we select assets.
 

Innocenti

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I don't buy into this "build from the draft" philosophy. It's mathematically impossible to do that even if you hit on every selection. You need to develop undrafted players as well. Free agency ultimately comes from both of those pools.
 

skop

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I don't buy into this "build from the draft" philosophy. It's mathematically impossible to do that even if you hit on every selection. You need to develop undrafted players as well. Free agency ultimately comes from both of those pools.

.. tip of the cap! that is a very good point. at one time they were drafted; just by someone else.

Teams that "build thru the draft" who always seem to have a "next man up" that are ready to go are teams who prioritize the draft rounds to positions unless a freak of nature like *Quenton Nelson* is available at guard, and it forces you out of that mind set.

Once you have marquee positions filled with first and second round studs, then you can use firsts and seconds on positions which are normally midrounders.

First Round... DE's, QB's thought to start, CB's, and Tackles.
Very Early Seconds... Same as above + WR's.
Late Seconds, 3rds, and 4ths... most WR's, LB's, Safety's, Interior OL, Interior DL, TE's & RB's... i.e., the bulk of a team.
5th, 6th, 7th... the fastest, the biggest, the situationals, college stat hogs, the injured in college... kick the tire picks.

if you stick to that, you fill rosters + keep them on the roster because the bulk of the roster is always cap manageable.

* JD took AVT in the first at LG, but i have heard from a couple of the "insiders" that after AVT, JD's board was completely mingled...meaning any player could have been a late first, second, third, fourth, etc. So he took Best Available & Need with a cannot miss selection.
 

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Injury free, bargain players who still have a lot to prove that they are not one and done. Players who took a back seat to All-Pro's and could not get on the field.
 

Tinstar

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One year deals on former high (preferably 1st round) draft picks who’s rookie contracts are up that might fit our schemes but for whatever reason didn’t work out where they were drafted . These players might be able to fill in until the drafted players can get the acclimated to the speed of the NFL and either take over or proved to have been a mistake. Kind of like what we did with Jarred Davis .
 

TebowCan'tThrow

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One year deals on former high (preferably 1st round) draft picks who’s rookie contracts are up that might fit our schemes but for whatever reason didn’t work out where they were drafted . These players might be able to fill in until the drafted players can get the acclimated to the speed of the NFL and either take over or proved to have been a mistake. Kind of like what we did with Jarred Davis .

Jarred Davis was the mistake.
 

Innocenti

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One year deals on former high (preferably 1st round) draft picks who’s rookie contracts are up that might fit our schemes but for whatever reason didn’t work out where they were drafted . These players might be able to fill in until the drafted players can get the acclimated to the speed of the NFL and either take over or proved to have been a mistake. Kind of like what we did with Jarred Davis .
Bad idea
 

skop

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correct... if you're looking for the last piece of the puzzle; like Deion in SF.

brilliant idea... if you're trying to fill a roster 1 year, so you can opt out of the contracts to draft their replacements, or be able to spend dead money you had hanged around your neck the next year.

all the moves so far have been to "rent" players to get out from bad deals while paying for both.

i get it!! you and TCT are a gazillion bitten a gazillion shy, so to see JD bring in guys who aren't working out, and didn't get us W's is "same ole' jets".

i get it!!! you have to see the improvements before you can see the plan that "was" in place.

you and TCT are fans of the 2015 Model. millions to FA's, and when they are done, you're left with dead money, a shambles for a team, and set up to lose for 5 years. But that 10-6 record almost making the playoffs was something to write home about!!!
 

Innocenti

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correct... if you're looking for the last piece of the puzzle; like Deion in SF.

brilliant idea... if you're trying to fill a roster 1 year, so you can opt out of the contracts to draft their replacements, or be able to spend dead money you had hanged around your neck the next year.

all the moves so far have been to "rent" players to get out from bad deals while paying for both.

i get it!! you and TCT are a gazillion bitten a gazillion shy, so to see JD bring in guys who aren't working out, and didn't get us W's is "same ole' jets".

i get it!!! you have to see the improvements before you can see the plan that "was" in place.

you and TCT are fans of the 2015 Model. millions to FA's, and when they are done, you're left with dead money, a shambles for a team, and set up to lose for 5 years. But that 10-6 record almost making the playoffs was something to write home about!!!
I am? How many times have I actually said anything like that? Oh wait zero. So just make up something about me and attack me for it.

You do realize that the talent pool of, " One year deals on former high (preferably 1st round) draft picks who’s rookie contracts are up that might fit our schemes but for whatever reason didn’t work out where they were drafted ." is people that busted. Not all of them of course but many.

BTW, I'm not a fan of going from 7-9 to 6-27, pretending things are going great, and justifying your opinion with homerish sports articles that are written for the sole purpose of keeping a fanbase interested so they continue to buy tickets, and other NFL merchandise like Joe Douglas Underoos. Oh wait a minute...6-27 is everyone else's fault *sarcasm*. Now everyone must eat a pile of sh*t and pretend it's caviar like good little fans.

With that said, I think next season will be better. They can't do much worse.
 

TebowCan'tThrow

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correct... if you're looking for the last piece of the puzzle; like Deion in SF.

brilliant idea... if you're trying to fill a roster 1 year, so you can opt out of the contracts to draft their replacements, or be able to spend dead money you had hanged around your neck the next year.

all the moves so far have been to "rent" players to get out from bad deals while paying for both.

i get it!! you and TCT are a gazillion bitten a gazillion shy, so to see JD bring in guys who aren't working out, and didn't get us W's is "same ole' jets".

i get it!!! you have to see the improvements before you can see the plan that "was" in place.

you and TCT are fans of the 2015 Model. millions to FA's, and when they are done, you're left with dead money, a shambles for a team, and set up to lose for 5 years. But that 10-6 record almost making the playoffs was something to write home about!!!

Yeah I'm not a fan of the 10-6 model at all. If we are only building through the draft then we will be in a perpetual cycle of mediocrity. They have to get some FA's that can help this team win. 2 more wins next year is unacceptable.
 

Tinstar

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I am? How many times have I actually said anything like that? Oh wait zero. So just make up something about me and attack me for it.

You do realize that the talent pool of, " One year deals on former high (preferably 1st round) draft picks who’s rookie contracts are up that might fit our schemes but for whatever reason didn’t work out where they were drafted ." is people that busted. Not all of them of course but many.

BTW, I'm not a fan of going from 7-9 to 6-27, pretending things are going great, and justifying your opinion with homerish sports articles that are written for the sole purpose of keeping a fanbase interested so they continue to buy tickets, and other NFL merchandise like Joe Douglas Underoos. Oh wait a minute...6-27 is everyone else's fault *sarcasm*. Now everyone must eat a pile of sh*t and pretend it's caviar like good little fans.

With that said, I think next season will be better. They can't do much worse.
Since you quoted so much of my post I will respond. First I take no issue with your response and neither do I take any personal offense. The way I see it, we’re building a team via the draft while attempting to compete which is why we add those type of free agents I mentioned earlier. The reason I suggested 1 year deals is do to the potential bust factor and the ability to get out from under said free agent if it doesn’t work out without sustaining any major damage to our cap short or long term . The aforementioned free agents have experience in the league that your average rookie doesn’t and might be able to stop gap while your rook gets acclimated.
As far as the record the last 2 years vs the year before, all I have to say about that is this . If any fan believed that the roster that went 7-9 (or whatever it was) had any chance of improving beyond what it was then I don’t know what to say . The GM got the coach the players he wanted and the record got worst .
 

TebowCan'tThrow

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Since you quoted so much of my post I will respond. First I take no issue with your response and neither do I take any personal offense. The way I see it, we’re building a team via the draft while attempting to compete which is why we add those type of free agents I mentioned earlier. The reason I suggested 1 year deals is do to the potential bust factor and the ability to get out from under said free agent if it doesn’t work out without sustaining any major damage to our cap short or long term . The aforementioned free agents have experience in the league that your average rookie doesn’t and might be able to stop gap while your rook gets acclimated.
As far as the record the last 2 years vs the year before, all I have to say about that is this . If any fan believed that the roster that went 7-9 (or whatever it was) had any chance of improving beyond what it was then I don’t know what to say . The GM got the coach the players he wanted and the record got worst .

I'm giving JD the benefit of the doubt, but 8-9 is the minimum improvement that I feel is acceptable. If the '22 draft is like the '21 draft we should see a huge leap in talent, but if its like the '20 draft then building through the draft won't work.
 

Innocenti

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Since you quoted so much of my post I will respond. First I take no issue with your response and neither do I take any personal offense. The way I see it, we’re building a team via the draft while attempting to compete which is why we add those type of free agents I mentioned earlier. The reason I suggested 1 year deals is do to the potential bust factor and the ability to get out from under said free agent if it doesn’t work out without sustaining any major damage to our cap short or long term . The aforementioned free agents have experience in the league that your average rookie doesn’t and might be able to stop gap while your rook gets acclimated.
As far as the record the last 2 years vs the year before, all I have to say about that is this . If any fan believed that the roster that went 7-9 (or whatever it was) had any chance of improving beyond what it was then I don’t know what to say . The GM got the coach the players he wanted and the record got worst .
Regarding my quoting of you, I just felt like it needed to be said because I was being mischaracterized by another poster.

Regarding the emboldened, I never felt like the 7-9 team was going anywhere either. However, there is middle ground...both situations suck and the latter is a regression. But hey, maybe JD will improve. I have no choice but to wait.

I think this needs to be said. My philosophy on all of this is that it's all marry, fck, or kill. Marry would be the draft and developing UDFAs. Your coaching staff will be better at developing players for certain positions than others. This is where you can actually trade away your talent when their contract demands become too high. Positions where you're staff is not developing players well...well that would be fck. Go spend money in free agency. Kill would be trading away talent when contract demands are too high and the players "aren't making a name for themselves."
 
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