Do you agree with ochocinco here? 🤔

Bigmoe

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Well this guy doesn’t:
He retweeted ::
Replying to
@theMMQB
and
@ochocinco
Lost me at 'you have a very QB in Zachary Wilson'.

Don’t let a certain poster read that 🤣
 

CaptMyng

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Not seeing much in the way of parallels between the two receivers. Pretty much different players in all aspects of their game. So how do you use "use Moore like Kupp"?
 

skop

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Not seeing much in the way of parallels between the two receivers. Pretty much different players in all aspects of their game. So how do you use "use Moore like Kupp"?

if he would have said that about Berrios (minus an inch or two and some straight line speed), i would have said "that's a reach, but we can massage the edges for Ocho."

But i thought the same thing you did.
 

skop

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Well this guy doesn’t:
He retweeted ::
Replying to
@theMMQB
and
@ochocinco
Lost me at 'you have a very QB in Zachary Wilson'.

Don’t let a certain poster read that 🤣

too late, @Bigmoe.
i already read it and you're perpetuating the cruelty of keyboard cowboys to Zach is over the top!!!
Keep it up, and i am gonna re-neg on posting pics in my Zach Underoos!!
 
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gmf1369

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Elijah Moore 40 Time 4.35
Cooper Kupp 40 Time 4.62
Height disparity means nothing but Moore should be able to do everything Kupp has done, just because he is literally faster and quicker... Moore has more twitch and can get up to full speed smoothly... Kupp has shown enough functional twitch and short area burst to get open... So technically Moore could be utilized in the way the Rams are using Cooper and actually take that sort of game to the next level and be the most dominate receiver in the game...
 

skop

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I hope to get this post shoved down my throat, and next year, i want everyone to do it until i cry uncle, but i haven't bought into Moore yet.

a.) i don't see straight line speed to run by corners.
b.) i haven't seen him make a catch that wasn't placed perfectly in his hands.
c.) i don't see him getting open in tight places.
d.) i saw too many drops.
e.) IMO, he plays slower than his times.
 

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I hope to get this post shoved down my throat, and next year, i want everyone to do it until i cry uncle, but i haven't bought into Moore yet.

a.) i don't see straight line speed to run by corners.
b.) i haven't seen him make a catch that wasn't placed perfectly in his hands.
c.) i don't see him getting open in tight places.
d.) i saw too many drops.
e.) IMO, he plays slower than his times.
:bluebop:
 

skop

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He's only 21 years old and I love the kid and I won't go crazy with stats but @ Ole' Miss he broke the single season All-Time record for most receptions during a single season with 86 receptions. Passing A.J Brown's former record of 85 catches; and he did it despite only 8 games which is absolutely nuts (within an elite Defensive SEC Conference).

This guy is A+ special man.

And then as a Rookie he only played 11 games and I'll admit. He got off to a slow start during his first 5 NFL games (our entire Offense did). But during his final 6 games of the season he was absolutely elite and recorded 51 Targets, 34 Receptions (66.7% catch rate percentage), 459 Receiving Yards and 5 TD Receptions along with a Receiver Rating of 103.4.

90 catches for 1,224 receiving yards and 13 TDs per season.

And Skop throughout his entire Rookie season he had only 1 drop (1.3% drop rate) and I know these are meaningless statistics but please don't quit on this kid and all because of first 5 games within a struggling Offense; focus in on his final 6 games and I promise you that he'll begin to fire you up man.

i refuse to quit on him... i hope to eat my words.
but, there is no way he only dropped one pass. just off of the top of my head:

1.) bomb against Carolina.
2.) high point ball at the goal against Denv.
3.) crossing route against Texans.

they might have all be recorded as a drop, but if both hands are or could be on the ball, it is a drop in my book.
 

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Excuse my naivete but I'm not sure what Chad Johnson means.
Moore and Kupp have similar skill sets and are both known as route-running technicians. The duo ran a lot of seam, post and corner routes, per ESPN’s Seth Walder. However, Kupp saw a lot more action on hitch, deep fade and flat routes than Moore. It also helped Kupp that the Rams typically had at least one other quality pass-catcher alongside him – whether it was Robert Woods or Odell Beckham Jr. – and a potent running game.

Matthew Stafford behind a rock-solid line of scrimmage added another level to Kupp’s dominance.

Jets offensive coordinator Mike LaFleur can certainly find ways to incorporate more routes in Moore’s playbook, but not if the Jets are still lacking in the pass-catching department behind him and don’t have a good offensive line blocking for Wilson. Moore has the ability to play at a higher level on his own if the Jets try to use him like the Rams use Kupp, but not if he doesn’t have the support around him like Kupp does in Los Angeles.
 

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i refuse to quit on him... i hope to eat my words.
but, there is no way he only dropped one pass. just off of the top of my head:

1.) bomb against Carolina.
2.) high point ball at the goal against Denv.
3.) crossing route against Texans.

they might have all be recorded as a drop, but if both hands are or could be on the ball, it is a drop in my book.
I can find fault on one play late......can't remember if it was PHI...think it was.......Zach launched one down right sideline and as Moore was coming back to ball it basically hit him in the facemask/helmet.............he should've caught that one being an elite receiver.
 

skop

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I can find fault on one play late......can't remember if it was PHI...think it was.......Zach launched one down right sideline and as Moore was coming back to ball it basically hit him in the facemask/helmet.............he should've caught that one being an elite receiver.

like i said... i refuse to quit on him, and i think he can be elite. he actually reminds me of an incredibly elite receiver in a bit smaller body, but he, like that receiver he reminds me of, has to get the hands right next year.
 

Seaver41

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guy i miss very much is Al Toon.......that dude was graceful and had spiderman hands. grabbed everything.
 
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