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Official 2022 New York Jets NFL Draft Thread
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Here's my next thought to get bashed by everyone..
Lets trade the #10 the the Packers so they can get the WR of AAron's choice. Jets would get the #22,#53, #92 in return.
Jets take Jahan Dotson, Jaquan Brisker, James Cook with those 3 picks
Taking Icky at 4 , Arnold Ebiketie Edge at 35 and Chad Muma at 38
and were not even out of the 3rd round yet....
Lets trade the #10 the the Packers so they can get the WR of AAron's choice. Jets would get the #22,#53, #92 in return.
Jets take Jahan Dotson, Jaquan Brisker, James Cook with those 3 picks
Taking Icky at 4 , Arnold Ebiketie Edge at 35 and Chad Muma at 38
and were not even out of the 3rd round yet....
Jets are NOT taking OL in the first round with the signing of Laken he is the starting RG.
Ickey projects to IOL, we have AVT & Laken there is no room for him.
Packers won't trade they have too many moving parts to fill to give up draft capitol.
Jets could be trading one of the two top picks.
Reasons I have not posted any in awhile because of David Ojabo injury all the Top 15 projections with him still there was well felt wrong to post them. Him being projected in the final picks of the first is fine because he could be ready for the start of the season but his stock did take a hit. He probably will fall out of the first round.
As for the Jets the mystery of which defensive lineman are the targets is curious. We need interior defensive lineman, we could add EDGE, but not a guarantee it will be with one of the first two picks. Jets hire Cincinnati's defensive line coach, interesting. One of the defensive ends aka EDGE is Cincinnati Bearcats Myjai Sanders who is likely to be a 2nd round selection. Not saying he is the pick but has to be thought about. Yes he has the height and length but he also has the frame of recently signed Jacob Martin. They build their idea, some players show the mold of what they might be looking at, just saying.
The question I keep asking; Where will JFM line up? Is he interior defensive line at tackle next to Quinnen Williams, or is he staying on the EDGE at defensive end? This will implicate how the Jets look at the draft. If he stays on the outside a player not known as a Jets target could very well be DeMarvin Leal a top end interior defensive lineman, but if the team trades down than MVP of the Senior Bowl on the National roster which was run by the New York Jets coaching staff might be considered that selection. Perrion Winfrey has been mocked as high as 23 to the Cardinals so if the Jets trade down into the late teens early twenties then Winfrey could be an option.
If Franklin Myers kicks inside where most of us fans and some expert analysists have noted JFM would be better served on the inside because he is a good run defender and able to run stunts and counters from the defensive tackle spot. With that saying now the Jets could be looking to add another EDGE defensive end to help build the outside rush. Carl Lawson's injury was unfortunate but the free agent signing of Jacob Martin shows the team has a different idea of how they want to build this defensive line. Believe you me, I did notice the major shift of rotation they ran last year. This signing of Jacob Martin suggests more of a wide 9 alignment moving forward. Speed Rushers aligned outside the tight end, will need good spatial awareness and open field tacklers at the linebacker positions. This brings the need of CJ Mosley.
Expect to also see this alignment of a 4-3 Under to help defend against the run. It’s tough for offenses to break the outside contain of a Wide 9 defense, so they must attack where the softness of the defense is, and that’s inside. By spreading out the defensive linemen, the defense has created cavities offenses will try to expose by making their run game more direct. The 49ers’ small linebackers better wear big-boy pads next season, because offenses will be running between the tackles. They’ll run inside zone plays, and pin-and-pull concepts such as G-Leads, Whams, Traps and Power plays. The strong-side linebacker has to be a stud, because he’s playing the C-gap between the tackle and tight end. Offenses can block the Sam linebacker with a tight end, block down on the 3-technique with the offensive tackle and pull the play-side guard to kick out the Wide 9 DE. That’s a G-Lead. The Wide 9 alignment makes it easier for offenses to isolate the 3-technique in the run game, and exposes him to situations where he’ll have to play the down block from the offensive tackle more often.
4-3 Under defenses try to do two things, two things that every front seven tries to do. One: stop the run. Two: pressure the pass. It uses 1-gap techniques to do so, which means that it relies on penetration and disruption of the offensive line.
The alignment of the 4-3 Under is meant to funnel strong-side runs to the Will. The D-linemen and SAM ‘backer all have to control their gaps at the LOS, allowing the Will and Mike to make plays. The way that the D aligns should allow the Will to be free and unblocked as well as funnel runs to him. The leading tacklers should be the Will and Mike, similar to the 3-4. On weak-side runs, both the Will and Mike should be flowing play-side, giving the SAM mop up duty.
If Franklin Myers kicks inside where most of us fans and some expert analysists have noted JFM would be better served on the inside because he is a good run defender and able to run stunts and counters from the defensive tackle spot. With that saying now the Jets could be looking to add another EDGE defensive end to help build the outside rush. Carl Lawson's injury was unfortunate but the free agent signing of Jacob Martin shows the team has a different idea of how they want to build this defensive line. Believe you me, I did notice the major shift of rotation they ran last year. This signing of Jacob Martin suggests more of a wide 9 alignment moving forward. Speed Rushers aligned outside the tight end, will need good spatial awareness and open field tacklers at the linebacker positions. This brings the need of CJ Mosley.
The alignment of the 4-3 Under is meant to funnel strong-side runs to the Will. The D-linemen and SAM ‘backer all have to control their gaps at the LOS, allowing the Will and Mike to make plays. The way that the D aligns should allow the Will to be free and unblocked as well as funnel runs to him. The leading tacklers should be the Will and Mike, similar to the 3-4. On weak-side runs, both the Will and Mike should be flowing play-side, giving the SAM mop up duty.
I don't see us taking Ekwonu at #4 if he is available with the signing of Tomlinson. IMHO we will take one of the DE. I would like us to take Penning at #10, but that may be up in the air depending what happens with Becton. So it will come down to another Defensive player, WR or my best case player, a Center.
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The question I keep asking; Where will JFM line up? Is he interior defensive line at tackle next to Quinnen Williams, or is he staying on the EDGE at defensive end? This will implicate how the Jets look at the draft. If he stays on the outside a player not known as a Jets target could very well be DeMarvin Leal a top end interior defensive lineman, but if the team trades down than MVP of the Senior Bowl on the National roster which was run by the New York Jets coaching staff might be considered that selection. Perrion Winfrey has been mocked as high as 23 to the Cardinals so if the Jets trade down into the late teens early twenties then Winfrey could be an option.
If Franklin Myers kicks inside where most of us fans and some expert analysists have noted JFM would be better served on the inside because he is a good run defender and able to run stunts and counters from the defensive tackle spot. With that saying now the Jets could be looking to add another EDGE defensive end to help build the outside rush. Carl Lawson's injury was unfortunate but the free agent signing of Jacob Martin shows the team has a different idea of how they want to build this defensive line. Believe you me, I did notice the major shift of rotation they ran last year. This signing of Jacob Martin suggests more of a wide 9 alignment moving forward. Speed Rushers aligned outside the tight end, will need good spatial awareness and open field tacklers at the linebacker positions. This brings the need of CJ Mosley.
Expect to also see this alignment of a 4-3 Under to help defend against the run. It’s tough for offenses to break the outside contain of a Wide 9 defense, so they must attack where the softness of the defense is, and that’s inside. By spreading out the defensive linemen, the defense has created cavities offenses will try to expose by making their run game more direct. The 49ers’ small linebackers better wear big-boy pads next season, because offenses will be running between the tackles. They’ll run inside zone plays, and pin-and-pull concepts such as G-Leads, Whams, Traps and Power plays. The strong-side linebacker has to be a stud, because he’s playing the C-gap between the tackle and tight end. Offenses can block the Sam linebacker with a tight end, block down on the 3-technique with the offensive tackle and pull the play-side guard to kick out the Wide 9 DE. That’s a G-Lead. The Wide 9 alignment makes it easier for offenses to isolate the 3-technique in the run game, and exposes him to situations where he’ll have to play the down block from the offensive tackle more often.
4-3 Under defenses try to do two things, two things that every front seven tries to do. One: stop the run. Two: pressure the pass. It uses 1-gap techniques to do so, which means that it relies on penetration and disruption of the offensive line.
The alignment of the 4-3 Under is meant to funnel strong-side runs to the Will. The D-linemen and SAM ‘backer all have to control their gaps at the LOS, allowing the Will and Mike to make plays. The way that the D aligns should allow the Will to be free and unblocked as well as funnel runs to him. The leading tacklers should be the Will and Mike, similar to the 3-4. On weak-side runs, both the Will and Mike should be flowing play-side, giving the SAM mop up duty.
Great stuff "G" how are you finding time to do this stuff ?
So far just about everyone has anointed the Jets Offensive line as one of the best in the NFL. What if Becton can't cut it. Fant is no longer that dominating LT and Tomlinson cannot make the switch to RG. We passed on Ekwondu. The Michigan and Georgia DE were gone in the Draft and we took Thibs. Our Defense played well, but Wilson was running for his life and was sacked for and NFL record. These are all IF question marks, but a possibility. At #4 do we take BPA or NEED?
end of the day if there is an opportunity for the Jets to cash in and accumulate more draft picks rather taking a position that is not needed is the smart thing to do in building a team.
there are players that are already off our big board for reasons that fans don't understand or don't care too.
you can not keep drafting first round offensive lineman every year to build an offensive line. this league does not have to be built with only first round talent. the Jets focused on key positions in free agency to open the door to take BPA or trade down to continue building out the core.
Jets top NEEDs are as of now only one position WR, then can build out the rest of the team with DE, DT, LB, SAF, TE, OL because of how they attacked free agency. Top receivers in this draft Garrett "skip to my loo" Wilson, Drake "coming off a broken ankle" London, Jameson "Tore my ACL" Williams are considered the top receivers but all have flaws that should be weary by teams in the top half of the first round. Do they fit? or are they just considered BPA or BPOB?
it is not a NEED, more of a want by the fans.
Signing EDGE Jacob Martin fills a need for the Wide 9 defense.
Don't forget we have JFM, Bryce Huff under contract
We have and hope Carl Lawson will be ready
But lets also look at the other EDGE DEs we have on the roster:
Bradlee Anae
Hamilcar Rashed Jr.
Tim Ward
Jabari Zuinga
Not the flashiest of players but it opens the door that EDGE at the Defensive End position is NOT a need.
like I said- fool's gold to count on Lawson and I'll stick to a need if criteria is quality. Bodies alone don't solve it. If they move JFM to edge then the interior needs quality help
I was the first one to trust Lawson's return as anything but icing on the cake.
But end of the day the Jets hired Cincinnati's Defensive Line coach. A prospect that could fit the bill as a projection to our Wide 9 defensive front similar to the free agent signing of Jacob Martin is Bearcat Myjai Sanders who is projected a 2nd round pick. So again with these moves in free agency along with hiring of specific people NEED is not EDGE well not early in the first round.
early on I can agree not critical. How do we feel about later in 1st if we deal one of the two picks?
depends do we deal both, then both are in the back half of the first? keep the tenth and deal the fourth or other way around. I can not be 100% on just yet but pointing out it would be ridiculous to spend a high pick on OL when our OL through free agency is set for this upcoming year with starters and you don't draft depth in the top of the first round.
when it comes to EDGE, IDL the defensive line is important but where are they on JFM is he DE or DT, we don't know what they are thinking. if he kicks inside then yes to an EDGE early it becomes a NEED but as of right now JFM is DE with or without Lawson there is enough talent on the team that we may run more of a Wide 9 set as base.
So a player like Martin with a player like JFM at the end position makes sense. The question is who are the inside tackles (one is Q) who is the other one? There is no real interior defensive lineman in this draft, or is there? Travon Walker is being marked as an EDGE guy but he also played DT at Georgia. Now 275 but also played at 290.
The question is, which way are they heading with the personnel?
I'll guess Joe will let the draft day trade market decide the direction. You know Joe is really gonna want to have more picks for next year and is in a position where he will get a quality talent in the 1st rd anyways. Feels like he can grab a WR at any spot in the 1st rd. Makes him very trade flexible but now it would have to be the #4 based on how the QB market at both levels has played out. I don't see 10 being the draw.
ah someone finally seeing the value, first pick even the second pick won't yield value like it did last year or the year before when it is team(s) vying for a quarterback. some team could maybe strike a deal to move up to 3 but would have to be a team in the Top 10 to do that without yielding much capitol. but the only team that seems like a potential landing spot is the Houston Texans and they have their eye on Kyle Hamilton with side glance at Ahmad Gardner.
moving up to 4 outside the Top 3 is flexible where teams won't have to pony up future firsts unless there is a bidding war.
For the Jets moving one of the top picks helps us while maybe allowing our other pick to take the player a top of our draft board. A player like Travon Walker has vaulted value but if this is the Top 9 picks we could still get Travon at 10.
1. Jacksonville Jaguars: Ickey Ekwonu, NC State
2. Detroit Lions: Aidan Hutchinson, Michigan
3. Houston Texans: Kyle Hamilton, Notre Dame
4. Pittsburgh Steelers: Malik Willis Liberty (via NYJ)
5. New York Giants: Evan Neal Alabama
6. Carolina Panthers: Ahmad Gardner Cincinnati
7. New York Giants: Kayvon Thibodeaux Oregon
8. Atlanta Falcons: Drake London, USC
9. Seattle Seahawks: Matt Corral Ole Miss
10. New York Jets: Travon Walker UGA
Both Carolina & Detroit both like Desmond Ridder, now Lions could draft him with the 32nd pick. Panthers could go QB, and rumors are between Sam Howell and Matt Corral options but some talk about Pickett.