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Old#15

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As I stated in my earlier post, Namath was the reason I switched allegiances from Packers (my mother is/was a Lombardi) to Jets was Namath. I was 12 when Jets won SB and was enamored with the exciting brand of football that they along with the rest of the AFL was playing. I never really thought about stats back then, but now I do for perspective. Quite honestly I think the only reason Namath is in the HOF was that one game that changed everything about the NFL. Crucify me if you want, that's fine but I stand by my opinions. So...Before I posted Namath's carrier stats, I compared to other noteworthy QBs of his era like Len Dawson and Bart Starr to see if everyone had similar difficulty dealing with the rules of the day. Clearly the QBs back then didn't have the gaudy stats of today but Namath was clearly inferior from that standpoint to the top QBs in the 60's and 70's. Both Dawson and Starr's stats were almost exactly flipped in terms of TD to INT ratio, and their completion percentages were both at least 10% higher. Does that tarnish the Jets SB victory, no.
 

LRJets

First Round Tender
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Rare Picture...One time the two greatest arms in New York.

For some strange reason, during the Namath years , the Jets played their first 4 or 5 games on the road. Both the Jets and Mets played at Shea, and some behind-the-scenes brains figured Shea needed to be open for the Mets should they be in the post season. It happened in 1968-69.Rheingold Shea.jpg As a jilted Brooklyn Dodger fan as a kid, I became a Met fan, so this is certainly not bias on my part. If anything, this would be construed Anti-Metism. Go figure.
Where have you gone Marv Throneberry?
 

Retired AFA

Repeat Offender Pro Bowler
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Back in the day, except for a couple of years the Jets did not have a good Offensive line (Winston Hill, Sherman Plunkett) or a good running back. Matt Snell, torn ACL. John Riggens, left for RedSkins. Namath relied on his arm. Took many sacks, threw many interceptions. You all have your opinions and I have mine. That's what makes us individuals.
 

butterscotch

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I compared to other noteworthy QBs of his era like Len Dawson and Bart Starr to see if everyone had similar difficulty dealing with the rules of the day. Namath was clearly inferior. to the top QBs in the 60's and 70's.
Tell that to millions of women!!!!!!!
 

CSNY1

Day 3 Prospect
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Not to be contentious and this may be considered blasphemous in Jet World, but Joe Namath's career stats aren't in line with the pedestal that we put him on. In his career he had 173 TDs and 220 INTs, and his record as a starter was below .500 (62-63-4). And oh yeah, he was injury ridden if not injury prone. He led Jets to a Super Bowl where he managed to put up 16 points against the Colts. Trent Dilfer also won a SB and he was as pedestrian as they come. I get it, those were different times as far as what the defenses were allowed to do but lets not throw his name around like he was a god-like QB because he wasn't. Exciting yes, controversial, that too and he won the only SB in our otherwise unsuccessful history as an NFL franchise. He's also the reason I started rooting for the Jets, so there's that.
[/ISPOILERHe led Jets to a Super Bowl where he managed to put up 16 points against the Colts. Trent Dilfer also won a SB and he was as pedestrian as they come. I get it, those were different times as far as what the defenses were allowed to do but lets not throw his name around like he was a god-like QB because he wasn't. Exciting yes, controversial, that too and he won the only SB in our otherwise unsuccessful history as an NFL franchise. He's also the reason I started rooting for the Jets, so there's that.

Let’s not forget in that era QBs called there own plays and in Super Bowl III Namath didn’t call one pass play in the fourth quarter. He played and called a smart ball control style to run down the clock to lead his team to victory. Could be a contributing factor in Namath putting up 16 points.
 

butterscotch

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Let’s not forget in that era QBs called there own plays and in Super Bowl III Namath didn’t call one pass play in the fourth quarter. He played and called a smart ball control style to run down the clock to lead his team to victory. Could be a contributing factor in Namath putting up 16 points.
Maynard being injured too
 

Namath12

Pro Bowl Alternate
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I am from that era, and strongly disagree with your opinion, With regard to Starr, he would be considered a game manager now. There were games when he would throw 15 passes. And understandably so, with Jim Taylor as his feature back running to daylight behind all-pros Forrest Gregg and Jerry Kramer.
Look it up. The passer rating system then was a joke. Do you remember who was often the highest rated qb? It was Milt Plum!
Context is everything, my friend.
Joe threw the ball down the field. And yes, he took risks, as did another qb from that era, John Hadl, the mad bomber.
Finally, I vividly remember Vince Lombardi stating that Joe was the best Qb in the league. Enough said.
 
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