Mike effin Lafleur

butterscotch

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Not shooting anybody and I think our offense has improved a lot, especially since White has been under center, but the fact of the matter is they let themselves get bullied in the red zone by a defense that isn't any better than ours. I just would like the blame to go where it should be and that's on the "O" line. Right now they are a playoff team so they better play like a playoff team or they won't be taking part in the playoffs unless you count being spectators as participants.
Great post...Lombardi If you can't make a yard you don't belong in the NFL
 

Gramoah

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Look I agree but we can all go back & say a call here or there could be done a different way. I would have run four times

That might have worked, if, they had any blocking success, but, they failed to get in in to the end zone way more than just 4 times. It's time to get tough and impose their will on defenses.
 

butterscotch

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That might have worked, if, they had any blocking success, but, they failed to get in in to the end zone way more than just 4 times. It's time to get tough and impose their will on defenses.
look I agree but our Rec's cant make tough catches now so I would have run it . I kept sending in plays but all I got back was return to sender
 

hatnlvr

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My issue with the play calling is the lack of mixing it up. Doing some smash mouth open up the play action, and once they start stacking the box it will open up some 1:1 opportunities for the receivers.

I’d like to see LaFleur start setting the offense up. Getting the defense biting and thinking X, then hitting them with Y. All the trickery is cute but sometimes you need to impose your will, and I’m not seeing that style from him.

We put up a ton of yards on Sunday. Unfortunately we just couldn’t get it done in the red-zone
 

Innocenti

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Let me restate my opinion. The Jets can go toe-to-toe with anyone. They're that good. But they couldn't spot the 9-2 Vikings 17 points. And a lot of the 3-20 deficit...mostly all actually, falls on LaFleur.
 

jetgreen13

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We talk about the problems that Zach Wilson is having and how we need to improve at qb. And I'm not disputing any of this. But the offense itself is suspect.

Lafleur blames himself for Wilson's regression in mechanics. Well he needs to blame himself for other things like poor WR deployment and incorrect WR progressions. It wasn't all Zach Wilson. And you can see that Mike White having similar problems as Wilson was. And the common denominator is Lafleur. If White and Wilson are making bad play calling, then Lafleur needs to call the plays from the booth.

Joe Douglas said that this year's goal was to play meaningful games in December but that was setting the bar low. The Jets should be playing meaningful games in January and February. It's difficult to attain this goal when you're spotting 9-2 opponent 17 points. Yes Lafleur is a new oc who is still finding his way. Well this crap is already old, Lafleur should've found his way by now. The rest of the team is ahead of him and he may be the weakest link right now.

On another note, the path to victory today was fg, kick off, stop, and fg.
LOLz you should have pointed my dumb ass over here!!

you're a good sport..
 

Atljet60

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Balance has always been the key to Jets victories. But when the defense doesn't create turnovers, and the offense has to drive the length of the field to score, and when they fall behind two scores, they have to pass more. This team needs more than a solid defense. Either the defense has to score or the return team has to create short fields. Our average start of drives is around the 25. It's asking too much for the offense to sustain drives when the run game stalls early.
 

Tinstar

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In bad weather today, too. Need more balance.
I agree about running the ball more but despite all that, we lost that game because of a dumb azz play by Mosley, a fumbled by Carter and grandpa Flacco’s inability to hold on to the ball on a sack that he stepped into.
 

BlindsideD'Brick

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I agree about running the ball more but despite all that, we lost that game because of a dumb azz play by Mosley, a fumbled by Carter and grandpa Flacco’s inability to hold on to the ball on a sack that he stepped into.
Those were the Big 3, but there were other reasons we lost, too. You’re not beating the Bills punching the ball in the endzone once. Field position was huge, and a lot had to do with Berrios watching the ball go over his head, and get downed inside the 5.
 

hatnlvr

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Honestly, everyone knows if you fall behind you have to throw the ball more. The issue I have is (we can be down by 3 and LaFleur immediately starts to abandon the run). He only goes to the run game is we have a lead! 3rd Quarter it's still a game and he's having White wing it all over the place!

LaFleur is a young OC as well, but similar to Zach, he doesn't seem to be learning. He continually keeps making the same mistakes.

We had plenty of blame to spread yesterday on that loss (Mosley... nuff said), but our game planning and in-game adjustments (pre- half time) have to improve as well.
 

Gramoah

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Simply put...................Mike White took a beating because our Offensive Line can't protect and is not really very good at opening run lanes so running more wouldn't have gotten it done either. Look at the game again and take note of how many run attempts resulted in negative yards. We need better play from the "O" line. Mosley misread what Buffalo was intending to do. If they had actually ran the play he believed they were going to run we'd all be singing his praises for a great play. Mosley doesn't make many mistakes which is why he's the leading tackler on the team. Yeah, that misread was costly, but it didn't do anywhere near as much damage as our totally ineffective "O" line.
 

BlindsideD'Brick

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Simply put...................Mike White took a beating because our Offensive Line can't protect and is not really very good at opening run lanes so running more wouldn't have gotten it done either. Look at the game again and take note of how many run attempts resulted in negative yards. We need better play from the "O" line. Mosley misread what Buffalo was intending to do. If they had actually ran the play he believed they were going to run we'd all be singing his praises for a great play. Mosley doesn't make many mistakes which is why he's the leading tackler on the team. Yeah, that misread was costly, but it didn't do anywhere near as much damage as our totally ineffective "O" line.

Yeah I don’t mean to beat this thing to death, but we lost in the trenches with our o-line and their d-line. When your QB gets hit like that several times in the 2nd half, those linemen need to man up and starting protecting him better. It seemed like the Bills were deliberately trying to knock his ass out. They sing White’s praises after the game, well, do your job better.
 

hatnlvr

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Simply put...................Mike White took a beating because our Offensive Line can't protect and is not really very good at opening run lanes so running more wouldn't have gotten it done either. Look at the game again and take note of how many run attempts resulted in negative yards. We need better play from the "O" line. Mosley misread what Buffalo was intending to do. If they had actually ran the play he believed they were going to run we'd all be singing his praises for a great play. Mosley doesn't make many mistakes which is why he's the leading tackler on the team. Yeah, that misread was costly, but it didn't do anywhere near as much damage as our totally ineffective "O" line.
O-line unfortunately is a complete patch job and they were dominated from start to finish yesterday ☹️

Douglas did try to address the O-line in the offseason but unfortunately no GM can account for the entire starting unit (pretty much) going down to injuries. White's quick decisions makes them look better than they are, but it is a patched up O-line.

Knowing they can't block, why not do something "not so original" like lining up a backup O-lineman as a full back and smashed the damn line?????? This has been my #1 complaint of LaFleur the past 2 years! He can't coach the players he has "he throws plays out there for the players he wants"
 

Innocenti

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1 TD and 1 FG yesterday. You still think Zach Wilson was the problem that they made him out to be? Do you think that the offense performed to its potential yesterday? There's a lot of things going wrong with the offense. And it needs to be better coordinated. #Lafleurneedstostepup
 
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