Official Game Thread: New York Jets at New York Giants

[cheaterhater]

So why do you expect us to care what you think?

Zach sucked but you're here rah rahing worse than Salah.

I don’t expect or care what any of you think. My opinion is my opinion. No one has to agree with it

and I’m not ra raging anything. That may have been the worst game I’ve ever seen and I’ve seen 50 years of bad ones

just sayin. We had a center that never played center. Zach did nothing behind him for most of the game. I cursed them all out the whole game, but when the game was on the line, Zach made 2 good throws that won the game rather than doing something stupid that lost the game. I’m proud of him for that.

GW who we all love, catches passes all game long, but has now dropped at least 2 when the game was on the line. That’s discouraging

did anyone do anything today to make me believe they have a chance next week? Hell no. But Zach scored on the winning drive after doing nothing all game. Not all qbs can do that. Just stating facts

 

[butterscotch]

I don’t expect or care what any of you think. My opinion is my opinion. No one has to agree with it

and I’m not ra raging anything. That may have been the worst game I’ve ever seen and I’ve seen 50 years of bad ones

just sayin. We had a center that never played center. Zach did nothing behind him for most of the game. I cursed them all out the whole game, but when the game was on the line, Zach made 2 good throws that won the game rather than doing something stupid that lost the game. I’m proud of him for that.

GW who we all love, catches passes all game long, but has now dropped at least 2 when the game was on the line. That’s discouraging

did anyone do anything today to make me believe they have a chance next week? Hell no. But Zach scored on the winning drive after doing nothing all game. Not all qbs can do that. Just stating facts

Bottom line is you are right in what you think but Sack stunk up the joint & still won against a third string first time qb in the rain. IMO. I saw a yellow flag win the game again IMO.

 

[cheaterhater]

Yep, Zach isn't more than serviceable but the biggest problem is offensive line. Just think what Breece Hall would have done with the holes the Giants created for Barkley. Becton gets beaten too easily on pass pro and the alternative is Brown. Next week we will probably be without our first THREE choices at center.

Right. Breece did nothing running the ball today either. We still won.

defense had awful penalties. Some maybe deserved, others maybe not

we have no offensive line, and it’s due to injuries. Or at least we can assume that right now, as our official starting five almost never played together.

there are no good linemen available period. Why?, because after watching brady stand in one spot untouched for 25 years, the rest of the nfl finally learned the value of keeping your qb untouched

so. Can’t blame anyone but the curse for all the injuries. JD drafted plenty of linemen and brought in plenty of veterans, they just never got a chance to gel because of injuries and the curse

 

[butterscotch]

Who says they couldn't pass? Daboll handcuffed his QB because he knew the Jets couldn't move the ball and their best chance of winning was not turning the ball over in their own half within Zuerlein's kicking range.

He tied him up because he was not game ready to play

 

[butterscotch]

The O line has it's problems and cost us several times this game, but putting all the blame on them and ignoring the worst QB in the league behind them is no better.

We were 5-2 last year, lost our RB and everything went down hill. Just like last year with Breece, we are winning "in spite of the QB play". If Breece goes down, we will start losing again just like last season.

Nothing has changed! Zach is the same player he was last year! We win with Breece "in-spite" of Zach, we never win because of Zach. He is not a competent QB, quite the opposite. From time to time (ie 2 minute drill, will no thinking and 1 read), he makes a nice throw here/there because he has the arm to do that. What he doesn't have and apparently will never have, is what's necessary between he's ears to play this position in the NFL.

He is a deer in the headlights. He can't see the field, he can't read a defense, he can't anticipate a throw (shit he had a couple of throws that it was dump luck they weren't picked because he was throwing into double/triple coverage, and to well covered receivers and just got lucky to not get picked). He IS NOT AN NFL QB

You are entitled to your opinion & so am I.......He IS NOT AN NFL QB

 

[butterscotch]

Right. Breece did nothing running the ball today either. We still won.

defense had awful penalties. Some maybe deserved, others maybe not

we have no offensive line, and it’s due to injuries. Or at least we can assume that right now, as our official starting five almost never played together.

there are no good linemen available period. Why?, because after watching brady stand in one spot untouched for 25 years, the rest of the nfl finally learned the value of keeping your qb untouched

so. Can’t blame anyone but the curse for all the injuries. JD drafted plenty of linemen and brought in plenty of veterans, they just never got a chance to gel because of injuries and the curse

He had a great run for on a pass of a few yards for a TD he gets 95% of the credit & Zach gets 5%.......wait the center get 3 pct of sacks five pct.

 

[cheaterhater]

In spite of Zach just like every win.

You should know by know, I’m generally as negative as you and right now I still think we suck. That said, I can’t blame it all on Zach. Today he won the game when it was there for the taking.

the offensive line can never be good if they never get to play together because they keep getting hurt. They decide who wins and loses more than anyone and Zach has never consistently played behind a good one. Brady behind this line retires every year. Maybe Zach sucks. Maybe he doesn’t, but until he plays behind a consistently good line for a season, we will never know

Rodgers may be the goat, and he didn’t last 4 plays here

 

[cheaterhater]

A win is a win.
I'll take it.
And love it.
Later

Yes

 

[butterscotch]

I think we are all happy that we won. But I may think a few might think that sack played well & he might stick next year & the jets will play this way each week against other teams, flags dropped passes wrong holes etc. Lets face it our kickers were the stars today. Did io say Sack stunk?

 

[cheaterhater]

a 40 yard yellow flag won it & he still grounded three throws like only he can. the other team could not pass in the last half forget the centers

How many games did Brady win on penalties? I hope Zach wins half, 25%, as many. 10 % would be good. Even 5

 

[cheaterhater]

Some people can be happy with a win, but be unhappy with terrible QB play. Terrible coaching.

Saleh clearly was not happy with the play in his presser

 

[butterscotch]

You should know by know, I’m generally as negative as you and right now I still think we suck. That said, I can’t blame it all on Zach. Today he won the game when it was there for the taking.

the offensive line can never be good if they never get to play together because they keep getting hurt. They decide who wins and loses more than anyone and Zach has never consistently played behind a good one. Brady behind this line retires every year. Maybe Zach sucks. Maybe he doesn’t, but until he plays behind a consistently good line for a season, we will never know

Rodgers may be the goat, and he didn’t last 4 plays here

He would have lost against 99% of the teams today & 99% of the QB's today IMO. He was awful & got a nice penalty, help from the Giants coaching & a great run after the catch by Hall. There are many bad OL's out there so I don't buy that for all his failures.

You should know by know, I’m generally as negative as you and right now I still think we suck. That said, I can’t blame it all on Zach. Today he won the game when it was there for the taking.

the offensive line can never be good if they never get to play together because they keep getting hurt. They decide who wins and loses more than anyone and Zach has never consistently played behind a good one. Brady behind this line retires every year. Maybe Zach sucks. Maybe he doesn’t, but until he plays behind a consistently good line for a season, we will never know

Rodgers may be the goat, and he didn’t last 4 plays here

If Rodgers is the Goat then Sack is the lamb

 

[butterscotch]

How many games did Brady win on penalties? I hope Zach wins half, 25%, as many. 10 % would be good. Even 5

Great players get more flags in their favor. not all but more then bums do

 

[cheaterhater]

The O line has it's problems and cost us several times this game, but putting all the blame on them and ignoring the worst QB in the league behind them is no better.

We were 5-2 last year, lost our RB and everything went down hill. Just like last year with Breece, we are winning "in spite of the QB play". If Breece goes down, we will start losing again just like last season.

Nothing has changed! Zach is the same player he was last year! We win with Breece "in-spite" of Zach, we never win because of Zach. He is not a competent QB, quite the opposite. From time to time (ie 2 minute drill, will no thinking and 1 read), he makes a nice throw here/there because he has the arm to do that. What he doesn't have and apparently will never have, is what's necessary between he's ears to play this position in the NFL.

He is a deer in the headlights. He can't see the field, he can't read a defense, he can't anticipate a throw (shit he had a couple of throws that it was dump luck they weren't picked because he was throwing into double/triple coverage, and to well covered receivers and just got lucky to not get picked). He IS NOT AN NFL QB

I partially disagree. Zach is learning. He is better. He did suck before this year

he also has never played behind a good line and a young qb behind a bad line, almost never succeeds. And if they get pounded regularly, they play like a deer in the headlights because they have been conditioned to. Pavlov’s rule

before this season, I had no faith in Zach. This year I have some hope

and Breece did nothing running the ball today and we won. If we judge him the way we judge Zach, then he must suck too. Plus, like our oline, Breece has missed as many games as he has played

 

[cheaterhater]

He had a great run for on a pass of a few yards for a TD he gets 95% of the credit & Zach gets 5%.......wait the center get 3 pct of sacks five pct.

Brady throws that pass, he gets 100% of the credit. How many times did he do the same thing? Throw a pass behind the line that turned into a big play and everyone kisses his ass

the answer to how many times did Brady do it? 10 zillion at least

 

[cheaterhater]

He would have lost against 99% of the teams today & 99% of the QB's today IMO. He was awful & got a nice penalty, help from the Giants coaching & a great run after the catch by Hall. There are many bad OL's out there so I don't buy that for all his failures.

If Rodgers is the Goat then Sack is the lamb

Tuck rule started it all. Than a zillion imaginary penalties. Plus a zillion imaginary roughing calls. A zillion great yacs… You never know when something great is about to begin. We can’t complain after a win. We have plenty of losing to complain about.

today, we sucked as a team and we won as a team. Last year we lost to belichick in the same way

 

[cheaterhater]

Great players get more flags in their favor. not all but more then bums do

So do cheaters. It’s a lot easier to become great when the calls go in your favor. How has that worked out for Jet qbs who have not been given a roughing call in how many years

officials are still calling roughing on brady and he’s retired

 

[cheaterhater]

Bottom line is you are right in what you think but Sack stunk up the joint & still won against a third string first time qb in the rain. IMO. I saw a yellow flag win the game again IMO.

When it rains like today, anybody can win whether they are the better team or not.

I love Majommes, and I’ve seen him win many a game because of a flag

 

[TebowCan'tThrow]

Saleh clearly was not happy with the play in his presser

Stop being a pussy and do something about it.

 

[jets82]