Official Game Thread: New York Jets at New York Giants

[cheaterhater]

He is a huge part of the problem. Not the only problem. Nobody ever said that. He looks like Tebow for 59:36. Then makes a couple throws and his awful throw was so bad it led to a huge PI penalty. I will take the win, but he makes it much harder on the defense to win these games for the Jets. We are going to lose a lot of games because of those horrible 59 minutes. I think what us anti-Zaxxers can't get over is the exact same pocket awareness. Thats not changed. Still runs backwards. Still throws off back foot. Still takes huge sacks for huge losses. Still throws dirt passes. Those are drive killing, gaming losing traits. We just want another option to be available for games like that yesterday. I will give him credit. He played exactly like that last year after the bye vs the Pats, but he did make plays yesterday at the end. So he is 4 plays better than last year. The coaching staff is to blame for his development, but JD is to blame for drafting him and putting behind this OL.

Yes. The sacks are awful. That has to be a teachable problem. And part of that has to do with him only playing behind an awful line from day 1. And he’s not throwing bounce passes anymore

i will stick up for JD. He has drafted linemen and brought in linemen. The best ones available thanks to every team watching brady stand in 1 spot untouched for 25 years good linemen are not let go. Not JDs fault they all got hurt. Every one of them. That’s on the curse

 

[cheaterhater]

Best part about Rodgers going down, we get to see Zach enough so they know to not give him his 5th year. Be easy to dump him next year.

And our pick back. But yes, we do get to see what Zach has. Only problem is, I’d like to have seen him having sat behind Rodgers for more than 4 plays.

you’ve said it yourself, our coaching staff can’t develop players.

does Zach suck because he should have sat for 2 years?

does Zach suck because he started his career behind a horrid o line and he still runs backwards now because he had to every time year one?

does Zach suck because Lafluer sucked?

is he salvageable? Most think no. I’m holding out hope

 

[TebowCan'tThrow]

And our pick back. But yes, we do get to see what Zach has. Only problem is, I’d like to have seen him having sat behind Rodgers for more than 4 plays.

you’ve said it yourself, our coaching staff can’t develop players.

does Zach suck because he should have sat for 2 years?

does Zach suck because he started his career behind a horrid o line and he still runs backwards now because he had to every time year one?

does Zach suck because Lafluer sucked?

is he salvageable? Most think no. I’m holding out hope

He has never been accurate. I'm enjoying the wins, but the only start with worse completion % is Jordan Love. Most coaches will say that never improves. It might improve for a game or two, but over a career it stays the same. This kid can't make the easy throws consistently. Has he improved some yes, but he had one decent game vs the Chiefs and every game since has been worse and he looks like the Zach we know. You can't take individual moments and say he made this pas or that one. He bounced another one yesterday on a screen. Bounced others. The kid is not salvageable. At best he can come into the game for a series or two. I'm enjoying the wins, but the only start with worse completion % is Jordan Love. Nobody is worse in the red zone. I think he should still sit behind Siemian. At least he can learn watching someone with a little more playing experience. Jets lose yesterday to every other team in the NFL. We make the playoffs with a competent QB. Zach is going to lead this team to another 7-10 record.

 

[TebowCan'tThrow]

Yes. The sacks are awful. That has to be a teachable problem. And part of that has to do with him only playing behind an awful line from day 1. And he’s not throwing bounce passes anymore

i will stick up for JD. He has drafted linemen and brought in linemen. The best ones available thanks to every team watching brady stand in 1 spot untouched for 25 years good linemen are not let go. Not JDs fault they all got hurt. Every one of them. That’s on the curse

I watched him bounce an easy screen pass to Breece on 3rd and 1 late in the game.

 

[butterscotch]

You do realize Breece scored our only offensive TD right?

I think he was drinking again lol

 

[butterscotch]

I don't believe Zach is a starter in this League. What We are seeing is what JD and Saleh saw. The KID shows flashes. Unfortunately that's all Zach seems to be. He'll make a great play but cannot sustain that level throughout the game. Some have it, some don't. Zach doesn't have it.

I agree

 

[butterscotch]

Well right now we don’t have much else so everyone better learn to live with him.

you always say, winners win and losers lose.

most 4th quarter comebacks from Zach’s draft class:

Zach 6
trevor 5
fields 2
mac 2

im not saying he’s great, or even good yet. Just that he can win and he is improving, albeit slowly

right now we’re 4-3 and right in the thick of things after a brutal first 6 games

yesterday with the rain like that, I throw that game out the window no matter who played it. Nobody can do anything good in that weather

plenty of dropped passes all day again and a guy playing center who has never snapped the ball before.

out the window

A guy never playing qb is more than a center not playing. But I agree a win is a win but that was one team outdoing the other team both trying to lose. lol

 

[butterscotch]

Well right now we don’t have much else so everyone better learn to live with him.

you always say, winners win and losers lose.

most 4th quarter comebacks from Zach’s draft class:

Zach 6
trevor 5
fields 2
mac 2

im not saying he’s great, or even good yet. Just that he can win and he is improving, albeit slowly

right now we’re 4-3 and right in the thick of things after a brutal first 6 games

yesterday with the rain like that, I throw that game out the window no matter who played it. Nobody can do anything good in that weather

plenty of dropped passes all day again and a guy playing center who has never snapped the ball before.

out the window

Tiki just sad as far as passing goes the Giants third string qb had the worst game ever...that is ever even Moses had a better qb in his league.......Ok you might say the Jets D had much to do with that or it was coaching but I say Sack was so bad he did nothing against that team with gifts all day......Helen Keller could have won that game by the 4th quarter

 

[butterscotch]

He has never been accurate. I'm enjoying the wins, but the only start with worse completion % is Jordan Love. Most coaches will say that never improves. It might improve for a game or two, but over a career it stays the same. This kid can't make the easy throws consistently. Has he improved some yes, but he had one decent game vs the Chiefs and every game since has been worse and he looks like the Zach we know. You can't take individual moments and say he made this pas or that one. He bounced another one yesterday on a screen. Bounced others. The kid is not salvageable. At best he can come into the game for a series or two. I'm enjoying the wins, but the only start with worse completion % is Jordan Love. Nobody is worse in the red zone. I think he should still sit behind Siemian. At least he can learn watching someone with a little more playing experience. Jets lose yesterday to every other team in the NFL. We make the playoffs with a competent QB. Zach is going to lead this team to another 7-10 record.

I back this but i will say there is always a chance. But I back this post. Trade him & sign Tebow.....we win more games that way.

 

[jets82]

A win is a win and the Jets have won three in a row, with Zach Wilson behind the center. So we can’t take that away from him and the team but Jesus Christ, that was a disgusting display of offense. Lead by Zach Wilson! Surprisingly enough he didn’t throw any interceptions and I don’t think he’s thrown one all three games. He’s only thrown 1-2 TDs all three games and that just ain’t cutting it. The kid definitely needs to step his game up, if that’s even possible!

 

[butterscotch]

Best part about Rodgers going down, we get to see Zach enough, so they know to not give him his 5th year. Be easy to dump him next year.

Really it has been four years...seems like 50 years.

 

[butterscotch]

A win is a win and the Jets have won three in a row, with Zach Wilson behind the center. So we can’t take that away from him and the team but Jesus Christ, that was a disgusting display of offense. Lead by Zach Wilson! Surprisingly enough he didn’t throw any interceptions and I don’t think he’s thrown one all three games. He’s only thrown 1-2 TDs all three games and that just ain’t cutting it. The kid definitely needs to step his game up, if that’s even possible!

I agree we all want this but he is lacking something upstairs........This may be the best D in the league. He has a great RB weak OL like many teams......But he can't do it....maybe we are the 85 bears

 

[gmf1369]

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[butterscotch]

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sign him quick before he leaves

 

[butterscotch]

sign him quick before he leaves

darn they changed the locks

 

[jets82]

I agree we all want this but he is lacking something upstairs........This may be the best D in the league. He has a great RB weak OL like many teams......But he can't do it....maybe we are the 85 bears

Jim McMahon (however you spell it) was WAY BETTER than Wilson. He wasn’t much worth talking about but he was at least a competent QB. Lol

 

[TebowCan'tThrow]

A win is a win and the Jets have won three in a row, with Zach Wilson behind the center. So we can’t take that away from him and the team but Jesus Christ, that was a disgusting display of offense. Lead by Zach Wilson! Surprisingly enough he didn’t throw any interceptions and I don’t think he’s thrown one all three games. He’s only thrown 1-2 TDs all three games and that just ain’t cutting it. The kid definitely needs to step his game up, if that’s even possible!

Didn't throw an interception, but did fumble twice.

 

[butterscotch]

Jim McMahon (however you spell it) was WAY BETTER than Wilson. He wasn’t much worth talking about but he was at least a competent QB. Lol

I agree 82 but I was being kind to the Sack lovers lol

 

[jets82]

Didn't throw an interception, but did fumble twice.

I don’t put those two fumbles on Zach! You just won’t give the kid credit for anything will you TCT! If Zach saved the world, you would complain that he didn’t do it your way, Lol! Come on TCT, give the kid a break, DAMN. That first fumble he was hit from behind perfectly by the defender. That was a picture perfect strip sack. I don’t think any QB would have been able to hold onto that ball. The second was a center exchange mishap from a center he’s never taken an exchange from. You’re going to put that on Zach? Come on man, be fair here!

 

[butterscotch]

I don’t put those two fumbles on Zach! You just won’t give the kid credit for anything will you TCT! If Zach saved the world, you would complain that he didn’t do it your way, Lol! Come on TCT, give the kid a break, DAMN. That first fumble he was hit from behind perfectly by the defender. That was a picture perfect strip sack. I don’t think any QB would have been able to hold onto that ball. The second was a center exchange mishap from a center he’s never taken an exchange from. You’re going to put that on Zach? Come on man, be fair here!

You may be right but qb's do fumble from all-pro centers too......Even so he should have been extra careful.