Official Game Thread: New York Jets at New York Giants

[TebowCan'tThrow]

I don’t put those two fumbles on Zach! You just won’t give the kid credit for anything will you TCT! If Zach saved the world, you would complain that he didn’t do it your way, Lol! Come on TCT, give the kid a break, DAMN. That first fumble he was hit from behind perfectly by the defender. That was a picture perfect strip sack. I don’t think any QB would have been able to hold onto that ball. The second was a center exchange mishap from a center he’s never taken an exchange from. You’re going to put that on Zach? Come on man, be fair here!

A hit from behind because he held onto the ball too long and didn't secure it. His lack of pocket awareness was his fault. The second one was not all his fault. I did give him credit for a handful of throws, but that doesn't remove his horrific performance prior to that. I've never seen a fan base overlook so many flaws and say well at least he completed a screen pass. The Jets almost lost to a team with -9 yards passing. I will ask this again in this thread, how would the Zach feel about him after that performance if they lost after that horrible sack and that was the last play he had like it should have been? Winning cures everything until it stops like last year.

 

[butterscotch]

A hit from behind because he held onto the ball too long and didn't secure it. His lack of pocket awareness was his fault. The second one was not all his fault. I did give him credit for a handful of throws, but that doesn't remove his horrific performance prior to that. I've never seen a fan base overlook so many flaws and say well at least he completed a screen pass. The Jets almost lost to a team with -9 yards passing. I will ask this again in this thread, how would the Zach feel about him after that performance if they lost after that horrible sack and that was the last play he had like it should have been?

You are right here....He was as bad as it gets...only thing I can say is some here have been lost in the desert or bar so long they are seeing a mirage. He was as bad as it gets & i don't give him a free pass on the center fumble.....It may be or maybe not the centers fault......Again, we are not sure. If we had lost that game it would go down in history along with the 62 mets

 

[butterscotch]

You are right here....He was as bad as it gets...only thing I can say is some here have been lost in the desert or bar so long they are seeing a mirage. He was as bad as it gets & i don't give him a free pass on the center fumble.....It may be or maybe not the centers fault......Again, we are not sure. If we had lost that game it would go down in history along with the 62 mets

But i do say you never know with a qb. He could be the next late bloomer

 

[cheaterhater]

You may be right but qb's do fumble from all-pro centers too......Even so he should have been extra careful.

Right. Brady fumbled almost every time he was sacked…. Which was still hardly ever as it was a penalty to sack him. In fact, in the superbowl where he was outplayed by Nick Foles, brady was never touched until midway through the 4th quarter and on that play he fumbled

 

[cheaterhater]

First off, I don’t think anyone here is a Zach lover. I do think that some people really hope he figures it out. That’s all

qbs come to the jets and they get ruined. We all know that. I for one would just like to see one of them succeed somewhere. It can be Zach, Sam, Geno might be doing it

Us sitting here bitching about how bad the kid sucks is not going to change anything. A lot of people actually believe the jets suck because of all the negativity from their fans. Lol

 

[hatnlvr]

Nobody said brady sucked when he dumped it off just like that 4 bazillion times

it wasn’t a bounce pass

I honestly have no clue why you keep comparing Zach to Brady?????? Seriously, Peyton Manning dumped off passes, Rodgers dumps off passes, Tua dumps off passes, every QB in the league dumps off passes/runs screens, uses check downs.

It's like saying Brady dropped back, so does Zach. There is ZERO relevance in it.

 

[hatnlvr]

but I don’t think he’s stupid. He may be able to learn. He hardly played in college and between injuries and benching , he hardly has played in the pros with his limited college play. White and Flacco came in and did whatever, but ultimately got injured behind our awful line

im just holding out hope while we‘re still in it. He may fail, he may learn

It's his 3rd season, and he is still making the same mistakes from year one. He is still slow to read the field like year one. He is still throwing balls into the dirt like year one (less frequently but man timely screw ups yesterday).

 

[TonyFtLaud]

Yes. The sacks are awful. That has to be a teachable problem. And part of that has to do with him only playing behind an awful line from day 1. And he’s not throwing bounce passes anymore

i will stick up for JD. He has drafted linemen and brought in linemen. The best ones available thanks to every team watching brady stand in 1 spot untouched for 25 years good linemen are not let go. Not JDs fault they all got hurt. Every one of them. That’s on the curse

Didn't he bounce on to Hall who was wide open on the right sideline?

 

[TonyFtLaud]

A win is a win and the Jets have won three in a row, with Zach Wilson behind the center. So we can’t take that away from him and the team but Jesus Christ, that was a disgusting display of offense. Lead by Zach Wilson! Surprisingly enough he didn’t throw any interceptions and I don’t think he’s thrown one all three games. He’s only thrown 1-2 TDs all three games and that just ain’t cutting it. The kid definitely needs to step his game up, if that’s even possible!

Pretty sure he threw a pick vs Denver

 

[TebowCan'tThrow]

First off, I don’t think anyone here is a Zach lover. I do think that some people really hope he figures it out. That’s all

qbs come to the jets and they get ruined. We all know that. I for one would just like to see one of them succeed somewhere. It can be Zach, Sam, Geno might be doing it

Us sitting here bitching about how bad the kid sucks is not going to change anything. A lot of people actually believe the jets suck because of all the negativity from their fans. Lol

By the same token, us sitting here praising his progress is not going to change anything.

 

[cheaterhater]

I honestly have no clue why you keep comparing Zach to Brady?????? Seriously, Peyton Manning dumped off passes, Rodgers dumps off passes, Tua dumps off passes, every QB in the league dumps off passes/runs screens, uses check downs.

It's like saying Brady dropped back, so does Zach. There is ZERO relevance in it.

I do it to get on @butterscotch nerves

but in truth when you watch just about any game, brady gets brought up and whatever he ever did was the greatest. He got credit for his offensive line, his defense, his receivers great catches…

when a qb other than brady loses a game, the loss is generally attributed to the qb, even though many other factors were involved in the loss.

look. That game in the pouring rain should be thrown out the window and forgotten. Personally, I’d like to see games like that canceled until good weather. I know in football that would be hard, but I still believe it

 

[butterscotch]

I honestly have no clue why you keep comparing Zach to Brady?????? Seriously, Peyton Manning dumped off passes, Rodgers dumps off passes, Tua dumps off passes, every QB in the league dumps off passes/runs screens, uses check downs.

It's like saying Brady dropped back, so does Zach. There is ZERO relevance in it.

i agree

 

[jets82]

 

[cheaterhater]

Didn't he bounce on to Hall who was wide open on the right sideline?

Did you honestly pay attention to what was going on i that awful game? I got home in the second quarter and had had enough after 1 play so I started drinking all the great beers that I just bought home from my trip

 

[cheaterhater]

i agree

No you dont

 

[TebowCan'tThrow]

Only two things good came from this game. Jets won. And we have an awesome punter.

 

[cheaterhater]

By the same token, us sitting here praising his progress is not going to change anything.

But no one is doing that. Everyone is bashing the kid

 

[cheaterhater]

It's his 3rd season, and he is still making the same mistakes from year one. He is still slow to read the field like year one. He is still throwing balls into the dirt like year one (less frequently but man timely screw ups yesterday).

But my point is this. He hardly played in college and he hasnt played 3 full seasons here. He starting behind. It’s not his fault the jets were dumb enough to draft him at #2. I’m sure he wishes they didn’t

 

[cheaterhater]

Only two things good came from this game. Jets won. And we have an awesome punter.

And I got some awesome beers

 

[butterscotch]

I do it to get on @butterscotch nerves

but in truth when you watch just about any game, brady gets brought up and whatever he ever did was the greatest. He got credit for his offensive line, his defense, his receivers great catches…

when a qb other than brady loses a game, the loss is generally attributed to the qb, even though many other factors were involved in the loss.

look. That game in the pouring rain should be thrown out the window and forgotten. Personally, I’d like to see games like that canceled until good weather. I know in football that would be hard, but I still believe it

lets see another qb that wins 7 sb's

No you dont

lol