2016 Draft Thread

Superman55

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College Football is only 3 months away (only), but I wanted to start a thread to track the progress of college players that may be in next year's draft class. Ill keep bumping this as stories arise.






Football Outsiders projects 6-10 for Jets. So, with 7th pick in '16 draft, @McShay13 has Jets taking Ohio State QB Cardale Jones. #tooearly
 

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I know Cook and Hackenburg (and Jones), are there any other QB's worthy of 1st round picks?
 

Superman55

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I know Cook and Hackenburg (and Jones), are there any other QB's worthy of 1st round picks?

3 names to watch:

Prescott QB Miss State
Hogan QB Stanford
Kessler QB USC

I would say TBD but with a season that matches their talent, possibly.
 

Elias

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Todd McShay has us picking Cordale Jones with the 7th pick overall next year. According to some program we are projected to finish 6-10.
 

Superman55

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Todd McShay has us picking Cordale Jones with the 7th pick overall next year. According to some program we are projected to finish 6-10.

Football Outsiders

6-10 is possible. I project us to be 8-8, but I think our oline is worse than some people think. I think some of the 12 win posts I saw on the draft thread may be a bit silly. I do think our defense will keep us in every game, but even holding teams to 17 ppg likely nets us 09 wins. I think every game a team scores over 20 we're in trouble. Hopefully Chan can be the man and prove me wrong.
 

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I honestly think this d can realistically be like rexs first year. We basically held teams to 14 points max. I think geno and this new receiving core can put up 20/game with our soft schedule.
 
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I honestly think this d can realistically be like rexs first year. We basically held teams to 14 points max. I think geno and this new receiving core can put up 20/game with our soft schedule.
Good post

It won't be Geno so your goal is much easier to obtain
 

Superman55

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I don't think any of those QBs listed will be 1st round selections. Especially Hogan. He's a 3rd round pick at best.

Prescott and Kessler are ok. I think Kessler is more 2nd round worthy. Prescott has the tools, but still very raw.

One guy however to look out for is Jared Goff of Cal. He's a potential Heisman candidate and if he really steps up to that level next year, he will be a 1st round pick if he decides to enter the draft

I kind of feel 1-2 QBs in this class will shine and there's no way to tell which QB will elevate their game. You may want to assume none of the 3 above QB will raise their game, and you may be right, but I'm just saying if they put it together this year with a big season they could go rd 1. Not will but could.
 
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when football starts we should move this to it's own forum now that we have dedicated people that like to talk about the draft and college we should be able to maintain decent flow in both forums.
 

Superman55

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yeah we can make it a sister forum

I think a lot of people come here the most but would click the link at the top occasionally just to read it but may not venture all the way to the other forum to keep up until draft time. There are a lot of college football fans on the old forum.
 
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I think a lot of people come here the most but would click the link at the top occasionally just to read it but may not venture all the way to the other forum to keep up until draft time. There are a lot of college football fans on the old forum.

i agree which is why a sister forum is the way to go i really hope we can get some of these other forums going though also
 

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Top quarterbacks in the Big Ten for 2015
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Quarterbacks Jameis Winston and Marcus Mariota were the first two selections in the 2015 NFL draft, and the Big Ten has a few players at the position who could be first-round picks in next year’s draft.


(Photo: USA Today photos/Ted Hyman photo illustration, 247Sports)
Ohio State’s Cardale Jones thought about turning pro after his amazing postseason run, but elected to return to school.

Michigan State standout Connor Cook may have been a first-round selection this year had he come out, but he and defensive end Shilique Calhoun returned to the Spartans and should be strong leaders in 2015.

With spring practices behind us and a much-too-long offseason ahead, we’ll start to look at the best of the best in each of the Power 5 conferences.

Today we take a look at the best quarterbacks in the Big Ten.

Top Big Ten quarterbacks
5. Tommy Armstrong, Nebraska: Armstrong threw for almost 2,700 yards and ran for another 700 yards last season for the Huskers. Nebraska loses receiver Kenny Bell and running back Ameer Abdullah, but there is still nice depth at both of those positions. Armstrong played well against USC in the bowl game, finishing with 381 yards passing and three touchdowns against the Trojans. While he's shown flashes with his arm, Armstrong should grow even more under the tutelage of Mike Riley. Nebraska's coaches will lean on Armstrong’s experience and leadership during this transition season. He accounted for 28 total touchdowns last season with 12 interceptions, and we expect those numbers to be even better in 2015.

4. Cardale Jones, Ohio State: It was a small sample size, but Jones played spectacularly during the Buckeyes’ postseason run. He went 46-for-75 for 742 yards with five touchdown passes and two interceptions against Wisconsin, Alabama and Oregon. He ran for 80 yards and another score combined in the three postseason games. Jones has a cannon for an arm, and Buckeyes running back Ezekiel Elliott thrived – rushing for more than 200 yards - in each game Jones started. Jones was the only 100% healthy quarterback for the Buckeyes this spring, and because of that he will likely take the first snap of the season for Ohio State in 2015. With a healthy Barrett returning, though, he’ll likely have to share time under center. Because of his measurables, expect the NFL to fall in love with Jones’ size and arm strength.

3. Christian Hackenberg, Penn State: Hackenberg had a very good freshman season but took a step back statistically in 2014. The main reason for that was the Lions’ trouble on the offensive line. Penn State had difficulty opening running lanes, and Hackenberg often had to throw while getting hit, with a hand in his face or while running for his life. He also worked primarily with freshman wideouts and dealt with injuries at the tight end position. He has all the physical tools, and NFL scouts have been salivating over him since he was in high school. NFL draft analyst Todd McShay recently had Hackenberg being selected No. 1 overall in the 2016 draft should he elect to leave Penn State early. With another year of experience in James Franklin’s system, and with the improvement of the players around him, expect Hackenberg to bounce back in a big way in 2015.


J.T. Barrett beat out Cardale Jones for the starting quarterback job last season. We think he can do it again in 2015.
2. Connor Cook, Michigan State: Cook has guided the Spartans to a Big Ten championship and won the Rose and Cotton bowls the last two seasons. Many expected him to leave after his outstanding junior season, but he is back to build on his legacy and earn his degree. In 30 career games, Cook has completed 58 percent of his passes (444-of-762) for 6,063 yards, 47 touchdowns and 15 interceptions. The Spartans are 23-3 in games he has started the last two seasons. Cook led the Big Ten in passing in 2014 (3,214 yards) and threw for 24 touchdowns with just eight interceptions. He completed 58% of his passes, and could have had a much better year statistically if he had played more in several early season blowouts. The Spartans lose receiver/defensive back Tony Lippett and running back Jeremy Langford, but Cook plays behind an outstanding offensive line and will have enough weapons to have another great season for coach Mark Dantonio. Cook isn’t flashy, but he is efficient and gets the job done – just like the Spartans as a whole.

1. J.T. Barrett, Ohio State: Barrett was on track to easily throw for 3,000 yards and rush for 1,000 yards before his ankle injury last season. He completed 203 of 314 passes for 2,834 yards and 34 touchdowns. He was also the team's second-leading rusher with 938 yards and 11 more scores in less than 12 full games. His 45 total touchdowns broke the school record of 36 set by teammate Braxton Miller, and broke Drew Brees' Big Ten record of 42 set in 1998. When Miller was injured it was Barrett, not Jones, who got the nod from Urban Meyer – and Barrett responded with a record-setting season. He is ahead of schedule in his recovery, and he is better at running the zone read offense than Jones. He may not start the opener, but he was a top-five Heisman Trophy contender before his injury and he should earn his staring job back if healthy. There is obviously a chance Jones keeps the starting job all year, but we think Barrett will share time under center at worst.

The next tier (in alphabetical order): Wes Lunt, Illinois; Braxton Miller, Ohio State; Jake Rudock, Michigan; Nate Sudfeld, Indiana
 

hobson54

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fwiw - surprised he has the QBs so (relatively) low on his board. also interesting how good he was last year on the top players.


http://espn.go.com/nfl/draft2015/in...-mel-kiper-too-early-2016-big-board-nfl-draft


Mel Kiper's too-early 2016 Big Board


There are hundreds (thousands?) of hours of work to be done on the 2016 NFL draft class, but as is custom, I have a first look about 355 days early. The usual question I get before you read this one: How was last year's offering? Actually, not terrible, at least at the top of the board. About 52 weeks ago, I had Jameis Winston at No. 1, Marcus Mariota at No. 4, Leonard Williams at No. 5, Amari Cooper at No. 6, Brandon Scherff at No. 7, Dante Fowler Jr. at No. 8, and Andrus Peat at No. 9. A couple top-10 guys who fell dramatically were No. 3 Randy Gregory (off-field issues) and No. 2 Cedric Ogbuehi (knee injury), but both of those weren't about football.

As for this class? My initial thought is it looks more unpredictable, just because there's SO much sorting to be done with the quarterbacks. It's just a really unsettled group at this stage. But that's part of the fun.

A couple of parameters: This includes all players who could be eligible for the 2016 NFL draft based on time spent in college, which means juniors and redshirt sophomores qualify. I'm not going to provide a lot of scouting notes at this point, with most of the evaluation work on this class still to come. Note that in two weeks, I'll release early rankings across every position group, around 200 players in total.

An asterisk denotes a junior for the 2015 season; two asterisks denote a redshirt sophomore.


1. *Joey Bosa, DE, Ohio State Buckeyes

John Bosa was the No. 3-ranked defensive end in my 1987 draft guide coming out of Boston College and eventually went No. 17 overall to Miami. I'd put No. 17 overall on the low end of any projections for his son. Joey has size (6-foot-6, 275 pounds), versatility that will fit any scheme and the ability to go around blockers or right through them. He has piled up 34.5 tackles for loss in two seasons, and that's without a developmental redshirt season.


2. *Laremy Tunsil, OT, Ole Miss Rebels

He will be coming back from fracture fibula suffered in the Peach Bowl, but Tunsil is still just a true junior with two sparkling seasons of play against top competition, all following a highly celebrated prep career. A nimble but powerful left tackle prospect, he has all the traits you look for in a top left tackle prospect.


3. *Jalen Ramsey, S, Florida State Seminoles

A does-it-all secondary talent who has already started 28 college games headed into his junior season, Ramsey would have been the top safety taken in the 2015 draft, had he been allowed to enter. He has length, range and exceptional instincts to make plays all over the field.


4. *Robert Nkemdiche, DT, Ole Miss Rebels

The top name in the incredible Ole Miss recruiting class of 2013, Nkemdiche moved inside after starting his Rebels career on the edge. He has exceptional movement skills for a player his size (6-foot-4, 280 pounds). And although I want to see more production from him, he has been thrown into the mix early, all while making position adjustments, and has the potential to break out in 2015 as he gets comfortable.


5. *Vernon Hargreaves, CB, Florida Gators

What Hargreaves lacks in size, he makes up for in instincts and effortless fluidity in moving with receivers. He's not that small, really, at 5-foot-11 and about 195 pounds, and I think he would have been the top CB taken in the 2015 draft, if available. And this isn't just projection; he's played in 24 games and already has picked off six passes before his junior season.



6. *A'Shawn Robinson, DT, Alabama Crimson Tide

A sturdy interior defender at over 320 pounds, Robinson was an impact player immediately at Alabama, notching 5.5 sacks as a freshman. Though he can eat up blocks on the inside, he's actually in the backfield a lot, because he's got strength and impressive athletic ability for a man his size. To be an instant-impact player at Bama is usually a good sign, and Robinson should continue to get better.


7. *Laquon Treadwell, WR, Ole Miss Rebels

At 6-foot-2 and nearly 230 pounds, Treadwell, has size, speed and tremendous hands. He was unquestionably the best WR on the team as a true freshman, even with Donte Moncrief still around. And while his season was cut short in 2014 due to an ugly injury, Treadwell should be 100 percent in the fall. If he stays that way, he's got the potential to be a first-rounder next spring.


8. *Emmanuel Ogbah, DE, Oklahoma State Cowboys

Born in Nigeria, Ogbah moved to Texas with his family and came up playing high school football in Houston. A raw talent who needed a redshirt season, he broke though in 2014 with 17.5 tackles for loss, often showing exceptional quickness for a player standing 6-foot-4 and carrying a lean 275 pounds. If the growth curve continues with this kid, watch out.


9. *Jared Goff, QB, California Golden Bears

The system at Cal is going to produce numbers, but Goff's 35 touchdown passes against seven interceptions are good anywhere. The big sell here is a big-time arm. Goff can drill the ball down the field and into tight windows with ease, and he has strong movement skills and anticipation for a player with good length who seems to see the whole field. Goff's totals are going to be significant, so the question of whether the skills translate quickly will be the key question.


10. *Ronnie Stanley, OT, Notre Dame Fighting Irish

There was some talk that Stanley should have jumped into the 2015 draft, but I think he was wise to return to South Bend. The pedigree and upside thus far beats the consistency, and another year should have him in great draft position. He already has 13 starts at right tackle as a freshman, followed by 13 at left tackle as a sophomore, so he'll marry plenty of experience to prototypical length and movement skills.


The 2014 numbers don't tell the full story on Christian Hackenberg. But 2015 needs to be better. Joe Camporeale/USA TODAY Sports

11. *Christian Hackenberg, QB, Penn State Nittany Lions

After a freshman season that showed tons of promise and also matched the considerable hype, Hackenberg struggled mightily as a true sophomore behind a bad offensive line -- and through what could not have been an easy coaching transition, as outgoing head coach Bill O'Brien has a superb reputation among quarterbacks. There is no question 2015 will be a scrutinized season for a kid with obvious NFL tools.


12. *Jack Conklin, OT, Michigan State Spartans

Once a walk-on for Mark Dantonio, Conklin is now one of the most steady, complete offensive tackle prospects in college football. At 6-foot-6 and over 320 pounds, he moves well (he was a good former high school basketball player) and is most impressive in his consistency, as he just doesn't give up sacks. Conklin could be a great draft story, if he maintains his form in 2015.


13. *Kendall Fuller, CB, Virginia Tech Hokies

It goes beyond pedigree with Fuller. He has three older brothers who all went to VT and all landed in the NFL, and Kendall might be the best of the bunch when it's all said and done. He has great instincts in coverage, plays physical and was an All-American in 2014, even though he wasn't at 100 percent. With 25 starts already under his belt, he'll have a ton of experience by the time 2015 is over.


14. Taylor Decker, OT, Ohio State Buckeyes

Moving well with a 6-foot-8 frame, Decker was a building-block piece for an offensive line that came together in dominant fashion late in the 2014 season and into the playoffs. He has played both tackle positions and will be the top prospect on what should be one of the best lines in the country in 2015.


15. Connor Cook, QB, Michigan State Spartans

It's more about tools than polish at this point, but Cook has good size, a quick release with enough zip down the field and shows well-above-average mobility for a player his size. On the downside, he often doesn't have his feet set when he throws, and the accuracy suffers. I think Cook made a good call to come back, because there's a lot to like but plenty to work on.


16. *Darron Lee, OLB, Ohio State Buckeyes

Lee was truly shot out of a cannon as an NFL prospect in 2014, starting with big plays in the opener against Navy, and his upward rise continued right into the drubbing of Oregon in the national championship game. He has outstanding burst to the ball when he diagnoses. And he won't just chase plays sideline to sideline; he can beat ball carriers (and pass-catchers) to the spot in the backfield.


17. D'haquille "Duke" Williams, WR, Auburn Tigers

A dominant JUCO player, Williams shined in his first season with the Tigers. At 6-foot-2 and over 220 pounds, he's a physical pass-catcher who will go through contact to the get the ball. He shows an ability to jump over defenders to get the ball; he takes the catch point higher. If there's a question mark here, it is whether the speed will match the physical talent.


18. *Jaylon Smith, OLB, Notre Dame Fighting Irish

An instant-impact talent in South Bend, Smith started all 13 games as a true freshman, then had a stellar sophomore campaign during which he picked up 112 tackles including nine tackles for loss. Smith can be moved around, has good length and can flat out fly for a linebacker, with sub-4.5 speed. He'll be a household name with a healthy 2015.


19. *Ezekiel Elliott, RB, Ohio State Buckeyes

Todd Gurley and Melvin Gordon got the draft love, but no college running back got the final laugh like Elliot, who reached peak form in running over, around and through Oregon in the title tilt. Elliot is a nimble runner with outstanding vision and good change-of-direction quickness, but he's also quietly about 225 pounds and will drop his shoulder on defenders. Hopefully the Buckeyes keep his odometer down when they can and he'll have a healthy junior season.


20. *Tony Conner, S, Ole Miss Rebels

Yet another high school star who became an immediate impact in Oxford, Conner has the range of a safety but will come downhill like a linebacker. And at 217 pounds, he is comfortable near the line of scrimmage, even in the backfield; he did tie for the team lead with nine tackles for loss. He's one reason the 2016 safety class already looks better than the 2015 group.


Myles Jack will be in the spotlight in 2015 after the departure of Eric Kendricks. Chris Williams/Icon Sportswire

21. *Myles Jack, OLB, UCLA Bruins

An athletic, instinctive, rangy linebacker, Jack can cover and make plays in the backfield. There was a lot of hype about the two-way player status, but the ability really is there. It's hard to question the football instincts when he was an offensive AND defensive freshman of the year in the conference at the same time. This will be a big year for Jack, who no longer has Eric Kendricks around; he'll need to lead this Bruins defense.


22. Shawn Oakman, DE, Baylor Bears

A shredded athlete with big-time length at nearly 6-foot-8, Oakman has great quickness and in some ways the look of an NBA small forward who packed on 40 pounds of muscle. He can win with quickness but has good strength and can use it when he doesn't let blockers use his height against him and dislodge him by getting into his body and taking away all his leverage. If he continues to build on 2014, he could have a monster season.


23. DeForest Buckner, DE, Oregon Ducks

Arik Armstead was the name you heard about all spring, but if you watch the Oregon tape, Buckner is the guy who is making the big plays for the defense. He picked up 12.5 TFL and should build on his sack totals in 2015. At 6-foot-7 and 290 pounds, he has an impressive frame and could be a fit in almost any kind of system with another year of polish.


24. *Su'a Cravens, S, USC Trojans

The Kam Chancellor of college football, Cravens brings a 225-pound frame to the safety position that allows him to drop into coverage or look, frankly, dominant near the line of scrimmage and into the backfield. Check out the 17 tackles for loss. He has played in 26 games over his first two seasons and could have a special junior season.


25. *Cardale Jones, Ohio State Buckeyes

As a "stock," this is as volatile as it gets. Jones has some great physical tools and a dream stretch of games to build on. But he's also not a guarantee to be a starter in 2015, and not starting would change everything, because those three games then become less a dream stretch and "just three games." In a nutshell (no pun intended, Buckeyes), Jones needs polish, which means reps. So he belongs here if he wins the job. If not, we need to back off a bit on the draft expectations.
 
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I seriously don't understand how cook and hack are rated behind Goff.
 

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The Houston Texans have traded the 16th pick in round 1 of the 2016 NFL draft to the New Jersey Jets for the 23rd pick in round 1, the 240th pick in round 7, and the the Jets 2nd round pick in 2017.

With the 16th pick in the 2016 NFL draft, the New Jersey Jets select Michigan State University QB, Conner Cook.

Book it.
MSU is going to have a down year, and so will Cook, but it won't be Cook causing that downward slide. He'll be the 3rd QB taken, and the Jets will be in just the right place to capitalize on their franchise QB of the future.
 

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HYATT™;34957 said:
The Houston Texans have traded the 16th pick in round 1 of the 2016 NFL draft to the New Jersey Jets for the 23rd pick in round 1, the 240th pick in round 7, and the the Jets 2nd round pick in 2017.

With the 16th pick in the 2016 NFL draft, the New Jersey Jets select Michigan State University QB, Conner Cook.

Book it.
MSU is going to have a down year, and so will Cook, but it won't be Cook causing that downward slide. He'll be the 3rd QB taken, and the Jets will be in just the right place to capitalize on their franchise QB of the future.

The Texans are going to be hot after hackenberg themselves...i'd bet they go up over down. They need a QB too and O'Brien recruited Hackenberg as the next great college QB that had NFL skills at 17. I wouldn't be shocked if they trade up to 1. Hackenberg and O'Brien are very close.
 
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