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2016 NFL Draft Thread
2016 NFL Draft Thread
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Every year, we seemingly enter the season with a clear-cut favorite as the top quarterback in college football. This year, Michigan State Spartans signal-caller Connor Cook seems to be that guy.
According to MMQB’s Andy Staples, Cook is currently “the front-runner to be the first quarterback taken in the 2016 draft.”
Staples went on to praise Cook for turning around the Spartans’ offense.
That has to be great news for Cook, who passed up an opportunity to be a first-round selection in the 2015 NFL Draft in order to return to Michigan State for another run at a national championship.
While it is still very early in the process, it appears that Cook will be a lock to be selected in the first 32 picks next spring.
If there is any competition for the honor of being the top quarterback selected, it will likely come from Ohio State Buckeyes signal-caller Cardale Jones and Christian Hackenberg of Penn State.
Who do you think should be the top-rated quarterback entering the new season? Sound off in the comments section below with your thoughts.
2016 NFL Draft Thread
http://www.campussports.net/connor-cook-is-front-runner-to-be-first-2016-qb-drafted/
Every year, we seemingly enter the season with a clear-cut favorite as the top quarterback in college football. This year, Michigan State Spartans signal-caller Connor Cook seems to be that guy.
According to MMQB’s Andy Staples, Cook is currently “the front-runner to be the first quarterback taken in the 2016 draft.”
Staples went on to praise Cook for turning around the Spartans’ offense.
That has to be great news for Cook, who passed up an opportunity to be a first-round selection in the 2015 NFL Draft in order to return to Michigan State for another run at a national championship.
While it is still very early in the process, it appears that Cook will be a lock to be selected in the first 32 picks next spring.
If there is any competition for the honor of being the top quarterback selected, it will likely come from Ohio State Buckeyes signal-caller Cardale Jones and Christian Hackenberg of Penn State.
Who do you think should be the top-rated quarterback entering the new season? Sound off in the comments section below with your thoughts.
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Cook definitely the top guy
Goff and Jones also high picks
Jury is out on Hackenberg IMO
Goff and Jones also high picks
Jury is out on Hackenberg IMO
One under the radar guy is Jeremy Johnson out of Auburn. He backed up Nick Marshall the last two years, but the has all the kid has tools. Big kid, strong arm, good mechanics and quick release. He is a guy I will be interested in watching once the college season starts.
Those are my 3 preferences, just hack, cook, and goff in that order. I would be happy with any of them, just worried about them going 1-3.
BIGGEST UPSIDE: Cardale Jones
If you just splice Ohio State's offensive pass plays from last year, you can basically watch all of Cardale Jones' tape in about an hour, but what you would see in that hour will have GM's and scouts salivating at his potential. What they will see is a physically massive pocket passer straight out of central casting, with an absolute cannon for an arm and startling accuracy considering how long he was on ice before being pressed into duty, and he played in enormous games with serious national championship implications, eventually leading his team to the national title.
Right now we don't even know if he's going to be the starter for the Buckeyes on opening day much less where he will be drafted, but if he wins that job as I believe he will, and looks anything like the guy we saw down the stretch last year, this kid has a real chance to be the # 1 Overall Pick.
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Hackenberg & Cook you can basically pencil in as TOP 10 LOCKS right now, both in contention for the # 1 Pick.
You wish Goff was just a little bigger, but he's a legit TOP 10 talent too, terrific passer, could be the next Drew Brees.
If you just splice Ohio State's offensive pass plays from last year, you can basically watch all of Cardale Jones' tape in about an hour, but what you would see in that hour will have GM's and scouts salivating at his potential. What they will see is a physically massive pocket passer straight out of central casting, with an absolute cannon for an arm and startling accuracy considering how long he was on ice before being pressed into duty, and he played in enormous games with serious national championship implications, eventually leading his team to the national title.
Right now we don't even know if he's going to be the starter for the Buckeyes on opening day much less where he will be drafted, but if he wins that job as I believe he will, and looks anything like the guy we saw down the stretch last year, this kid has a real chance to be the # 1 Overall Pick.
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Hackenberg & Cook you can basically pencil in as TOP 10 LOCKS right now, both in contention for the # 1 Pick.
You wish Goff was just a little bigger, but he's a legit TOP 10 talent too, terrific passer, could be the next Drew Brees.
Why Hack over Cook?
Arm strength and a quicker release. Hackenberg will come into the league with an a+ arm. Both have a+ brains between the ears. One thing that worries me about cook is that he's coming from the system that gave us Hoyer and Cousins, but Hackenberg played a pro offense in high school and was NFL ready when he walked onto penn states campus. O'brien started him as a true freshman where he had a dominant year. When he walked into the blue white game as a true freshman, playing for the first time in front of psu nation, he showed he was king shit on campus. The kid had it. There was no doubt who was starting that year. he did take a step back with his new coach, but he was still clutch in the 4th quarter. IMO, mIch state had more talent around cook. But I still think Hackenberg is a Matt Ryan type and cook would grade out similar to Eli as a prospect. I would love either QB.
Hackenberg to smith would be very fun to watch with Hackenberg's arm.
Hey, while I agree goff needs to put on some weight, 210, because he's a bit thin, while he may be very much like Brees, no doubt, you have to admit Brees relies on passing lanes and moving the pocket, because he's 5'10. Goff is a true 6'4 natural pocket passer that stands and delivers. Which is why I compare him to Derrick Carr. That talk, long, lean stand and deliver QB that has a live arm...at least romo strong. I like him too.
Who would you compare Jones to? The best I've come up with is a cross between Winston and Cam. He's not as mobile as Cam, but moved well, and is big/huge like both of them at 6'5 250. Maybe he has some Big Ben in his game also. But to your point he doesn't have enough experience for me to be too comfortable with selling the farm to get him. The first 3 yes, but if be worried Jones has a huge gap to fill due to lack of experience. Hopefully he starts this year and puts those concerns to bed. He's a great interview though.
Not trying to bust balls, 55 -- serious question. I didn't watch much PSU football this past season, and I willsave the film study for next January, but Hackenberg's numbers were not good at all this past season. Below 60% completions, more picks than TDs.
Why the drop off after a solid freshman season?
Why the drop off after a solid freshman season?
Oline took a huge step back, O'brien left giving him all new coaches and system, he also lost Allen Robinson but has a top 7 hs recruit class with a top RB, WR, and 3 4+ star oline man. He will be better in the second year in this new offensive system. But I can tell you if you watch his film, he was still amazing beyond the numbers. He was consistently money in the 4th quarter. Watch his film. The ball explodes out of his hand. He's special.
I will follow him closely in the NFL regardless of the team that drafts him.
I'm not so sure about Goff. From the games I watched him, I was impressed with his play but I kinda doubt his arm ability.
You need to be exceptionally accurate and heady to survive with a sub par arm. Really hard to tell if ANY QB out of college has Penningtonesque smarts and accuracy. I think he will need that to thrive.
I just see him as far far more risk because of his arm strength
You need to be exceptionally accurate and heady to survive with a sub par arm. Really hard to tell if ANY QB out of college has Penningtonesque smarts and accuracy. I think he will need that to thrive.
I just see him as far far more risk because of his arm strength
Thanks. I will make it a point to watch a couple of Penn State games this season -- as an SEC guy, I usually watch those games in season rather than Big 10 - aside from the top ranked teams. For an SEC guy who lives in Big 10 country, it was tough to see Ohio State win it all this past season.
i personally like hack over cook. i don't get the hype on cook of being a possible #1 overall pick. very good player, but i don't see a "can't miss" QB in him
but i'm not sure incoming freshman (especially o-lineman) will make any impact this coming season. most o-lineman need a redshirt year to get up to college size and strength
Good Point on Goff, he needs more meat on his bones, but he can fling it. I like your comparison more than mine.Hey, while I agree goff needs to put on some weight, 210, because he's a bit thin, while he may be very much like Brees, no doubt, you have to admit Brees relies on passing lanes and moving the pocket, because he's 5'10. Goff is a true 6'4 natural pocket passer that stands and delivers. Which is why I compare him to Derrick Carr. That talk, long, lean stand and deliver QB that has a live arm...at least romo strong. I like him too.
Who would you compare Jones to? The best I've come up with is a cross between Winston and Cam. He's not as mobile as Cam, but moved well, and is big/huge like both of them at 6'5 250. Maybe he has some Big Ben in his game also. But to your point he doesn't have enough experience for me to be too comfortable with selling the farm to get him. The first 3 yes, but if be worried Jones has a huge gap to fill due to lack of experience. Hopefully he starts this year and puts those concerns to bed. He's a great interview though.
As for Jones, I like the BIG BEN comparison, thats the guy Jones reminds me of and he can be a similar player, someone who can swat away pass rushers because he's so big and strong, which extends a play that would have been dead with most pocket passers, and then, as soon as he swats you away, he can load up and throw it downfield 60 yards on a rope.
Thats a nightmare to deal with because DB's naturally let-up when they see the pocket collapse and the pass rush get there, its a natural reaction, and thats when receivers can get wide open behind them, and no matter where they are on the field, Ben/Jones can reach them with a frozen rope, giving the DB no time to recover and make a play.
That said, you're right, of the four QB's we're discussing here Jones clearly has the most to prove. I can say with a degree of confidence that Hackenberg and Cook will be TOP 10 Picks in 2016, and I'm pretty confident Goff will be in that group too. Jones, OTOH, can go higher than all of them or he can not even be a first round pick at all. So much of it depends on what he does this year. While he has great tools and what he accomplished last year was very impressive, his tape is extremely limited and he has to prove that it wasn't a fluke.
Thats fair, he would be a lot better off if he's drafted by a dome team and/or one that plays in a warm weather division. If he came to the Jets, for example, you'd have to worry about how he can deal with the swirling winds at the Meadowlands when the weather turns cold, and Buffalo and NE are no picnics either. But if, for example, he landed in Houston, New Orleans or Arizona, arm strength would not be as big an issue at home or in the division.
You know what I've been thinking recently, and I'm going to watch him more this year in SEC ball, what would you think of the Jets wait till their pick or trade up from rd 2 and take Prescott? Prescott would be slated to go later rd 1 early rd 2 at the latest I'd bet. And could you see Prescott as a Gaily spread offense QB? Wince your eyes and think about it...does he have a little McNabb in his game? Not the prettiest but winning game manager with Jim Jones stout D? I can see that. Prescott is a possible name in my mind that may be a sleeper Jets target. I need to see how his passing has improved. He's got better and better each year...and he's 6'2 230...a good size.
I am really excited about this college football season. All 5 QBs will be cool to watch, Ohio State's whole situation, Hackenberg, Goff, Cook, and Prescott.
Other players to watch...how can you not watch a bunch of big 10 football this year? When you're watching Ohio State's QB, when their on D Joey Bosa is a monster 3-4 projections. He would be an awesome dlineman to take if we go dline again next year.
Still Ohio State...Eziekell Elliot? Top 15 pick RB likely. How awesome is he? And talking about what if Jets go top olineman rd 1...still Ohio State...Taylor Tucker will be one of the first OTs off the board and a guy the Jets will look at heavy I bet. He's a 6'7 315 natural left tackle.
There's another Fuller CB coming out of Va-Tech this year if you watch ACC. He'll be one of my favorites in this stacked CB class.
Bama is stacked again and will run a deep class in this draft - Robinson DE, Henry RB and Howard TE.
And Florida's CB Hargraeves is going to be a good CB to watch in this class.
College football being closer to starting is more exciting to me. It's almost July making it a little over a month away...
And guess who I get to watch my favorite CB Fuller play week 1 of college football? Ohio State.
I am really excited about this college football season. All 5 QBs will be cool to watch, Ohio State's whole situation, Hackenberg, Goff, Cook, and Prescott.
Other players to watch...how can you not watch a bunch of big 10 football this year? When you're watching Ohio State's QB, when their on D Joey Bosa is a monster 3-4 projections. He would be an awesome dlineman to take if we go dline again next year.
Still Ohio State...Eziekell Elliot? Top 15 pick RB likely. How awesome is he? And talking about what if Jets go top olineman rd 1...still Ohio State...Taylor Tucker will be one of the first OTs off the board and a guy the Jets will look at heavy I bet. He's a 6'7 315 natural left tackle.
There's another Fuller CB coming out of Va-Tech this year if you watch ACC. He'll be one of my favorites in this stacked CB class.
Bama is stacked again and will run a deep class in this draft - Robinson DE, Henry RB and Howard TE.
And Florida's CB Hargraeves is going to be a good CB to watch in this class.
College football being closer to starting is more exciting to me. It's almost July making it a little over a month away...
And guess who I get to watch my favorite CB Fuller play week 1 of college football? Ohio State.
Super, I share your excitement, can't wait for this college football season to start, its gonna be awesome.