Kind of how I feel about fence sitters waiting to see which grass is greener to pick a side or finally have an opinion. surprised so many fence sitters are jets fans.
New quarterback trade possibility
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Kind of how I feel about fence sitters waiting to see which grass is greener to pick a side or finally have an opinion. surprised so many fence sitters are jets fans.
Except that's not what I do.
I just don't force feed my opinion on everyone else, then shout it from the rooftops when I'm right and sweep it under the rug when I'm not.
If I was a fence sitter, you wouldn't take me to task so often for my opinion, because I wouldn't have one.
OK, let's bring this back to the QB talk.
Would love to get Wilson, but the cost on multiple levels would be astronomical.
Would love to get Wilson, but the cost on multiple levels would be astronomical.
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Chris Everett? 
Yep, that was it, thanks Bigmoe.
You're worried about the rest of the roster deteriorating but Nothing deteriorates a roster more than having a bad QB. The entire league has become QB centric, and designed to promote their play. I would trade Revis, Mo ANDRichardson for a YOUNG franchise quality QB. You are 10X as likely to find an elite DL or CB than you are a QB.
Having stability at the QB position would do more to improve the team than Revis, Mo and Richardson combined.
As long as the team has hot garbage at the QB position, it is going nowhere.
If you have the chance to get a Ferrari, you don't sit around wringing your hands about what the insurance will cost you.
I'am with 55. The Jets need a QB desperately. (unless Geno turns it around or Petty learns faster than expected).
The team can win automatically with Russell. The guy is definitely a franchise QB. Just ask Seattle fans who have been waiting an eternity for a Superbowl. He isn't a Mark Sanchez "play it safe" type of QB. The guy is worth $20 mil without a doubt.
Plus, he'd have an excellent defense on the other side of the ball here. Also, sure we may not afford to keep Sheldon, but Macc showed this off season and draft that he can make many moves happen to better the team.
With Russell, there wouldn't be any more "time to develop" as the guy is proven and we'd be getting him at the peak of his career.
Regardless, if the Jets find a legit QB, we have to pay him top dollar any way, that's how the market is for the position. QB is something this team has been longing for since that Alabama Hall of famer back in '69.
Though IMHO, this will wind up being some BS rumor as the Seahawks organization aren't that clueless or stupid to let a guy who changed their fortunes around walk just like that. No way Seattle would have become what they are had they placed Matt Flynn under the helm.
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Except that nobody who has one is trading a young franchise QB. What's been talked about endlessly here are young meh QBS like Kaepernick and Wilson who are barely amongst the top half of the list IMO.
No Lucks are for sale
IMO, the prudent thing for the Jets is exactly what Maccagnan has done
1. Acquired a "hold the fort" veteran QB in Fitzpatrick with a good arm who can manage a game, throw accurately and not run or throw the Jets out of games with bundles of turnovers, sacks that destroy field position and all around dumb plays
and
2. Draft the best QB available after Mariota, Winston and Hundley went early in a talented Bryce Petty and let him learn and develop under Chan Gailey in order to compete with Fitzpatrick for the starting job in 2016
With the veteran talent Maccagnan has added in trades and FA (Revis, Marshall, Cro, Skrines, Gilchrist, Stacy, Posey, Harrison, others) and the draft (Big Len, Smith, Petty, etc), the Jets are a 10 or more win team in 2015 which probably takes them out of the running for one of the 3 potential young franchise QBs (Cook, Jones and Goff) in 2016 anyhow
That may be true, but if buying and keeping the Ferrari costs you your house, was it worth it?
what QBs do you think are better than wilson? i can see if you don't think he's top 5 or so, but calling him barely among the top half seems crazy, unless you are just looking at fantasy football numbers
in 3 years, he has completed 63.3% of his passes, has 72 TDs, 26 Ints, a 98.6 career passer rating, and to that, you add over 1,800 rushing yards and 11 rushing TDs. to say nothing of his 2 SB appearances.
name the 16 or so QBs you think rank above him in the top half of the league.
If chan and Mac see him as the next Tom Brady, yes.
Agreed, seattle isnt letting the next Tom Brady out of the building.
Also, how can you not afford the maintenance costs when everyone that already has a ferrari has the same salary cap to maintain it and everyone who wins a super bowl has a ferrari...
Wilson - check
Rodgers - check
Brees - check
Brady - check
Big Ben - check
older Manning - check
eli manning - check
Flacco - check
if you dont have a ferrari, you're wasting your season and time...like the 2015 season will be. truth is, whether jets fans admit it or not...we just want to be competitive next year and show growth; but all realistic jets fans know, we dont have a ferrari, so Luck, Big Ben, Brady, Manning come play-off time will likely put this defense to bed before we ever get a SB run in our wet dreams...
you have to get the ferrari to even sit at the table. Right now, we're a second rate organization...like the rams and browns...with a great D and a few nice pieces, but no one expects much from us despite the stacked roster outside of QB.
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You underestimate our QBs. We only have one really awful one, the one you don't want to trade to Seattle with Wilk and first round picks for Wilson???
understand 55 but have you read the specs on the new zo6 vette? Its not a Italian stallion but for a 1/3 of the price you get equivalent performance... get my drift. Not saying we have a zo6 on our team just making a observation...
If they see Russell Wilson as the next Tom Brady, I'd be a bit concerned. I'll put my faith in their eyes more than mine, but that seems like a stretch for anyone to think Wilson is Brady.
Seeing as I have actually stood next to him at West Towne Mall, both of us in sneakers - and I'm 5'-9" & my kids are 5'-10" & 5'-11" respectively - I can assure you Wilson is at least 5 foot 10 & a half inches, if not quite the full 5'-11" he's listed as.
Wilson has 2 things going for him.
A.) He's probably one of the smartest football I.Q. players in this league.
B.) He's a better than average scrambler in the backfield, though not as dangerous a threat past the LoS as Andy Dalton was for the Horny Frogs in their Rose Bowl meeting - with Russell Wilson having the better run blocking OL of the 2 teams.
In any event, the source for this conjecture is the same source as all the rest of the BS that gets posted this time of the year - some dickwad stoner daydreaming about hypothetical football "what if....."s on his momma's basement couch and calling it in to some overpaid, overhyped AM sports radio jerkwad who is willing to promote the shight out of ANY idea, so long as it grabs clicks and ratings.
He's already better than brady at this point in his career than Brady was at 26. By far better...from a pssing standpoint and by a deep ball standpoint than Brady ever was.
I dont understand how you dont see this...did you watch Brady when they won the first 3 super bowls with Bruschi, Harrison, and Corey Dillon...Troy Brown and Givens at WR?
...you do know Brady never had a QBR over 92 until he was in his 30s...right? He was mid 80s with only 2 years in the 90s until he was in his 30s. Do people think Brady was always a dynamic passer?
you do know Wilson's QBR was over 100 both his first seasons in the NFL and 96 last year...you understand Brady only has 3 career 100 QBR seasons...Wilson already has 2...
You perplex me sometimes, SE. You must not watch Wilson much. The guy almost has 3:1 TD to INT rations each of his first 3 seasons in the NFL...again, something Brady never came close to until he was in his 30s...
I am reading a lot of silly Russell Wilson hate on this thread...