Geno Smith Out 6-10 Weeks

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heading into this season...were you worried about how Geno would perform in Marty's system...or was the hope for improvement tied to what he would do with Gailey?

I dont give a damn about his first two years...I wanted to see what he would do in a spread system with Gailey...so far it looked good.

Just like Troy Aikman, Drew Brees, and terry Bradshaw, all busts after 2 years heading into year 3...had to focus on the future, not the past.

Im not comparing Gneo to Fitz...I was excited to see Geno (and Amaro) in their natural system...the spread.

But to your point, it may not have helped. I mean, he didn't look better in practice or anything. truth is, Gailey's spread hasnt helped Petty a lick, so who's to say it would help geno? Geno must have still looked terrible in practice...just like Petty, right? And Fitzpatrick who knows the spread system like the back of his hand was far out performing Geno in practice, right? because he's so much better it showed...that happened, right?

I was going to hold off on posting this, and then I saw the tone in your comments here.

You do know it's OK to alter your position on someone when faced with new evidence. In fact, many see it as a sign of intellectual maturity.

Yet you lock on to an idea, and never deviate in the least from it. I'm not sure, but I think you are trying to preserve the illusion of you always being right. The problem is, nobody else shares that illusion. You're doing it solely for your own ego.

Geno has not even been close to the guy you said he would be, dating back to the old scout board. Yet rather than say that, you double down on him. Every time a report comes out about him looking good in practice (as it has for three seasons, just like it had before then about Sanchez), you latch onto it. Yet you ignore any negatives, whether in games, in practice, or off the field.

The loyalty you have is admirable. But is it loyalty to Geno, or loyalty to your own opinion?
 

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I was going to hold off on posting this, and then I saw the tone in your comments here.

You do know it's OK to alter your position on someone when faced with new evidence. In fact, many see it as a sign of intellectual maturity.

Yet you lock on to an idea, and never deviate in the least from it. I'm not sure, but I think you are trying to preserve the illusion of you always being right. The problem is, nobody else shares that illusion. You're doing it solely for your own ego.

Geno has not even been close to the guy you said he would be, dating back to the old scout board. Yet rather than say that, you double down on him. Every time a report comes out about him looking good in practice (as it has for three seasons, just like it had before then about Sanchez), you latch onto it. Yet you ignore any negatives, whether in games, in practice, or off the field.

The loyalty you have is admirable. But is it loyalty to Geno, or loyalty to your own opinion?

Are there not posts on this site that I said if Geno falls flat in the preseason Fitz should start week 1? Are you claiming I havent posted that?
 

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You'd risk going to jail and would be okay getting arrested over $600? "You understand why someone would do that."...and the fact you admit you'd punch someone in the face too over $600 and ruin your professional and personal life over $600 says more of you as a person than your take on the toipic...concerning...
Yeah whatever, think what you want but when your a 6th round pick and not making any real money and you got someone blantently avoiding you or disrespecting you that you see everyday, you going to feel a certain kind of way about it. It then becomes a point of F#ck the money dude, your blantently disrespecting me and now that's the issue. Your going to pay me my money or your going to get dealt with. Besides, I'm not 6'1" and 265 lbs, so I doubt I would of broke Geno's jaw and went to jail. Although, yeah I would have gotten cut an that ain't good I will admit.
 

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Also, my posts about how Geno looks after each practice is to piss off SG3...I really dont care about how he does in practice...im more needling the guy who said he'd be cut by now.
 

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It doesnt matter if I was there...if two people in front of you at a traffic light are arguing, and one of them gets out of the car and punches the other one in the face...i dont care what the people in the car say, I know which one is wrong. Common sense should prevail in this debate...

...but i should know better than to hear much common sense around here.

No, you don't know. You are selectively citing some facts. What is the back story?

Did the guy who got punched actually do the punching to the other guy earlier at a bar? Or what if the guy who got punched just tried to lure the child of the puncher into his car?

The guy who punched the other is obviously guilty for throwing the punch. But you cannot determine the guilt or innocence of the other without knowing all the details.
 

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It doesnt matter if I was there...if two people in front of you at a traffic light are arguing, and one of them gets out of the car and punches the other one in the face...i dont care what the people in the car say, I know which one is wrong. Common sense should prevail in this debate...

...but i should know better than to hear much common sense around here.


but in your traffic light incident, you are saying you know the facts of what happened. you witnessed 2 guys arguing, 1 getting out of his car and punching the other.

in the geno-IK incident, you do not know the facts of what happened. all you know is that IK punched geno. you don't know what led up to this, what was said between the two, how geno may (or may not) have provoked the situation, etc...

you've never met geno. you've never met IK. you know absolutely nothing about either of them.

revis and bowles know the 2 men. they've spent time with them. they know a lot more about what happened than you did.

why do you think revis and bowles are saying what they are saying about both of them being at fault? do you think they have an anti-geno bias? do you think bowles thinks it's a good idea to trash his young QB and hold him partially responsible for getting his jaw busted? what would be their motivation in their words?

so again, i find it comical that you, who has never met either participant and knows nothing about either of them than what you read on the internet and watch on tv knows more about the altercation than their coach and teammates. an altercation you did not witness and know nothing about what provoked it or the history between the two men, who again, you've never met.
 
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Geno is a lesser QB than Fritz...his age and stronger arm means absolutely nothing, and Geno's camp performance even less. Ik's mistake was closing his fist.
 

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Are there not posts on this site that I said if Geno falls flat in the preseason Fitz should start week 1? Are you claiming I havent posted that?

I really do not know either way. I don't document every post you make, as heartbreaking as that may be to you.

If you say you said that, I have no reason not to believe you.
 

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Yeah whatever, think what you want but when your a 6th round pick and not making any real money and you got someone blantently avoiding you or disrespecting you that you see everyday, you going to feel a certain kind of way about it. It then becomes a point of F#ck the money dude, your blantently disrespecting me and now that's the issue. Your going to pay me my money or your going to get dealt with. Besides, I'm not 6'1" and 265 lbs, so I doubt I would of broke Geno's jaw and went to jail. Although, yeah I would have gotten cut an that ain't good I will admit.

Just to demonstrate how out of touch fans are...this poor soul that needed his $600 was going to make $529,670 this year.
 

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No, you don't know. You are selectively citing some facts. What is the back story?

Did the guy who got punched actually do the punching to the other guy earlier at a bar? Or what if the guy who got punched just tried to lure the child of the puncher into his car?

The guy who punched the other is obviously guilty for throwing the punch. But you cannot determine the guilt or innocence of the other without knowing all the details.

We wont agree on physical violence then. Unless some harm had occurred to self, friends, or family...I dont condone violence. Im surprised so many people on this board think running around punching people in the face is cool if one can find rationale for it. Everyone was raised different, and maybe getting punched in the face was a regular part of your upbringing. Not mine so much.
 

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We wont agree on physical violence then. Unless some harm had occurred to self, friends, or family...I dont condone violence. Im surprised so many people on this board think running around punching people in the face is cool if one can find rationale for it. Everyone was raised different, and maybe getting punched in the face was a regular part of your upbringing. Not mine so much.

Actually, I have never been on the giving or receiving end of a punch. But you should know that, since you seem to know everything about my upbringing.

And if you are not willing to go to any length to protect your child from an abductor, I'm glad I wasn't your son.
 

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Over/under on time this is mentioned during Thursday's game...30 would be my guess...and I'd take the over (I think it will be closer to 50)
 

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Actually, I have never been on the giving or receiving end of a punch. But you should know that, since you seem to know everything about my upbringing.

And if you are not willing to go to any length to protect your child from an abductor, I'm glad I wasn't your son.

reading comprehension issues again, SE?

"Unless some harm had occurred to self, friends, or family...I dont condone violence."
 
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I think we already did, I'm just suggesting we sign and start JaMarcus Russell and make it official.

That is completely ridiculous and you couldn't like Todd Boles much? What you're suggesting would surely cost Bowles his job.
 

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Just to demonstrate how out of touch fans are...this poor soul that needed his $600 was going to make $529,670 this year.
Just so you know, Geno is going to make a million plus this year with a locked in job this year and announced the starter. IK was fighting to keep his job so there is a difference. Once again, this isn't even about the money anymore its about the principles of disrespect. You and I both know you owe me money.

We agree that you will pay me once we get to camp and were there for two weeks straight and you dont pay up. Then I ask you about it and you then get an attitude and point your finger in my face. Yeah, I can defiunderstand why the dude was pissed off and snapped. Doesn't make it right and he shouldn't of done it but I can understand.
 
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I actually agree with Leberfeld.

" Dan Leberfeld @jetswhispers

Todd Bowles and Mike Maccagnan have nothing to do with Jets history. They just got here. They need to ignore the historians and forge ahead."



I agree, Bowles has no blame in this incident. But as far as the "forge ahead" goes, Bowles needs to get this situation under control immediately.

I expected there would be an outrage on the part of the other players. Quotes supporting Smith like "IK better not show up on another team, or he'll pay for this" At best the reaction was luke warm. Reminds me of the incident in Miami with crazy Richie. Most of the team mates seemed to support Incognito, or as in the Jets case were luke warm to it. Which indicates to me, Smith wasn't very well liked in the locker room.

Then you have a new comer, Brandon Marshall, who has had locker room problems everywhere he has been, refusing to take reps from any QB except Smith.

This incident could very well cause a major split in the locker room.

Bowells needs to take charge of this situation, and firmly stomp out any brush fires in the locker room before another incident takes place. Not as easy as it sounds.

To this point, Bowles has seemed like a very professional HC, who looked like he was doing a good job. The leak in the locker room about what the incident was about was concerning. Bowles announced the cause would be kept "in house." It was leaked about a half hour later.

This is Bowles first true test, and it's a big one. He can't let this locker room become divided into two camps.
 
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