Geno Smith Out 6-10 Weeks

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“Who was in the locker room?” Scott said. “Who watched it happen? Who watched it escalate? … The fact that they allowed it to escalate … (Maybe they were like) ‘Man, he needed to get smacked. He’s talking all this stuff.’ That’s telling you the level of respect that a lot of players and teammates have (for Smith)


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Football51

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not really. it was a sucker punch according to Bowles with Smith sitting on a stool with his back turned. Bowles said players rushed right over and stopped it. think Bart is just morphing into a talking head just like the ones he used to hate.
 

Johnny Unite Us

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not really. it was a sucker punch according to Bowles with Smith sitting on a stool with his back turned. Bowles said players rushed right over and stopped it. think Bart is just morphing into a talking head just like the ones he used to hate.

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HYATT™

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Remember that vick commercial where he throws the football out of the stadium? For Thomas he does that on a 5 yard out. He's the least accurate QB in the NFL since drunkenmiller. Falls right in line with your Josh freeman love fest. Oh HYATT and his QBs.
You'd rather develop someone like a Tyrod Taylor, (who may also be available but has 1/10th the tools of someone like Thomas)?
Finding a decent prospect QB isn't like going down to the Five & Dime and putting one on lay-away or using your AMEX card.

They are scarce enough as is, when you find someone with ability but is not yet a starter, you have to at least TRY to develop him.
The better raw material you start with the better your chances of success are.

Name me another AVAILABLE backup QB you see as worth more investment than Thomas - if you think HYATT™ is so far off-base here.
It's easy to sit in the cheap seats and jeer at everyone else's suggestions while offering none of your own.

 

HYATT™

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I live 10 minutes from va tech and if you think petty is still a year or two away then thomas is prob 4 years at the very least
Thomas has already had 1 year of development.
Personally HYATT™ thinks Petty is a LOT more than a year or two away, so the case may be a coin flip and not as wide a gulf as you suggest.
The odds of finding a franchise QB in Rd 1 are bad enough, they're a lot worse for guys drafted later or signed as UDFAs.
This is what we deal with - there are no perfectly cut unpolished gems laying around waiting for a quick dose of lapidary polish.

Aaron Rodgers SUXED for 2 years languishing behind Favre in GB.
It wasn't until halfway through his 3rd (2007) season, (and 2 solid years of coaching by what may be the best QB coach in the league, in Tom Clements), that his arm strength and awareness started to resemble anything like what we see today.

 

HYATT™

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Okay, the JaMarcus Russell thing was facetious, but all kidding aside, I think we should just go with Petty, and I say that knowing he's not ready, but IMO it still makes more sense than Fitzpatrick and shooting for mediocrity.

It will expedite his learning curve, get some of the growing pains out of the way, and by seasons end we'll know if he has a future or not, or at least have a much better idea. Who cares if we lose. We're gonna lose anyway. We're not making the playoffs, and certainly not winning a championship with Ryan Fitzpatrick. Even if Petty goes 2-14, that will only put us in a better position to nab a franchise QB in the draft.

Or maybe by some miracle Petty out-performs expectations and by seasons end he's playing a high level. Not impossible.
Two werds.
Alex
Smith

Two more.
David
Carr

Post script: Akili Smith, Joey Harrington, yada yada yada....
My point being, tossing a young QB to the NFL wolves and asking them to live up to expectations is more often than not a perfect recipe for destroying their confidence and any future they might have had.
 

Mugatu

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One side note about IK and his history...

I know people keep saying that he punched a cop. I looked into this and apparently what happened was that he punched an off duty cop who was working security at a nightclub. Which to be fair is way different in my book than punching a uniformed cop.
 
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Kristian Dyer: Jets, Todd Bowles still cleaning up Rex Ryan's mess

They are still left with Rex's mess, Tuesday's news about 'Jaw-mageddon' just the latest gut punch to their former head coach's legacy.

It might take longer than the New York Jets thought to clean up the burning trash can that former head coach Rex Ryan left behind. This was a team that for six years carried Ryan's unabashed personality and swagger, something that reshaped a franchise seemingly forever stuck in the doldrums. But it also was a temperament, a personality that let the inmates run the asylum.

Now a new head coach in Todd Bowles is in town, preaching accountability and trying to sweep out the trash.

There's no denying that with a veteran team he inherited in 2009 that Ryan was the right man for the job. He let the players go about and do their jobs and it worked with two magical runs in the playoffs bringing the team to a game within the Super Bowl. But his style didn't adjust to a younger team, a team that needed strong leadership atop the organization.

And the news of the past few weeks, including Sheldon Richardson's arrest (as well as a league suspension for violating the substance abuse policy) and then Tuesday's news about IK Enempkpali's punch that broke quarterback Geno Smith's jaw is just another indictment on the old regime. This one isn't a blight on Bowles or a first-year general manager in Mike Maccagnan.

It just underscores exactly why the time was right to see 'Rex' go.

No one wanted him to really go, in fact, Ryan was handed some bad rosters his final two years with the team and didn't do a bad job of keeping these Jets competitive. But in terms of character and integrity he showed some serious misjudgments when it came to his own locker room.

A player on the Jets told Metro last week that Bowles uses the word “Accountability more than any other his vocabulary.” Players are fined for being late to meetings, not doing the right thing. In other words, the kind of petty things such as last year when Smith was late to a team meeting in San Diego.

Don't pin this one on the new regime, not yet. Neither Enempkpali or Smith or Richardson for that matter were brought in by Bowles or Maccagnan – all three were draft picks of the old order. No NFL locker room is perfect, not when athletes get paid millions to play a violent sport and are fawned over, treated like royalty and given preferential treatment that breeds an air of entitlement. But it is fast becoming clear that how 'Rex' ran things only made this a petri dish for a spoiled attitude to take root.

It is just more evidence that Jets owner Woody Johnson was right, that the old way of doings things was wrong and that the Jets needed more accountability in that locker room.

They got that in Bowles who apparently has plenty of work to do to get this thing right.

http://www.metro.us/new-york/kristi...ng-up-rex-ryan-s-mess/zsJohk---EzKo3leEYa8tU/

From Kristian Dyer's mouth to Elias's and gods ears:sleeping:
 
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for someone who questioned others in another thread for continually bringing Ryan up, you sure do a good job of it yourself. you're not baiting others to respond to this are you?

An incident of this nature just shows how little control a HC is capable of having over an entire locker room. Meanwhile, if this had happened last season, and don't you even attempt to deny it, you'd be screaming from the rooftops how Rex Ryan is an A$$hole and he allowed this to happen, he should be fired, and the Jets need to replace him with a HC that demands accountability. A HC that will hold players accountable.

Well, this just proves that even though you got your wish and Rex is gone - Todd Bowles could NOT do any better.

Just so you know, I don't blame Todd Bowles for this situation occurring. That's impossible standard to keep up when you have 90 players on your roster and they are not in your employ 24/7. But Rex sure as heel would have been blamed by YOU for this.
 
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you'd rather develop someone like a tyrod taylor, (who may also be available but has 1/10th the tools of someone like thomas)?
Finding a decent prospect qb isn't like going down to the five & dime and putting one on lay-away or using your amex card.

They are scarce enough as is, when you find someone with ability but is not yet a starter, you have to at least try to develop him.
The better raw material you start with the better your chances of success are.

Name me another available backup qb you see as worth more investment than thomas - if you think hyatt™ is so far off-base here.
It's easy to sit in the cheap seats and jeer at everyone else's suggestions while offering none of your own.


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Old#15

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An incident of this nature just shows how little control a HC is capable of having over an entire locker room. Meanwhile, if this had happened last season, and don't you even attempt to deny it, you'd be screaming from the rooftops how Rex Ryan is an A$$hole and he allowed this to happen, he should be fired, and the Jets need to replace him with a HC that demands accountability. A HC that will hold players accountable.

Well, this just proves that even though you got your wish and Rex is gone - Todd Bowles could NOT do any better.

Just so you know, I don't blame Todd Bowles for this situation occurring. That's impossible standard to keep up when you have 90 players on your roster and they are not in your employ 24/7. But Rex sure as heel would have been blamed by YOU for this.
Fair point.
 
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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...smith-deserved-it/?ocid=Yahoo&partner=ya5nbcs

Smith “was up in [Enemkpali’s] face and pointed/touched his face,” an eyewitness said.

That followed Ryan Clark’s defense of Enemkpali on ESPN Radio earlier Wednesday morning, as he explained the situation surrounding Smith stiffing the linebacker out of $600 worth of travel expenses.

“These guys were in each other’s face,” Clark said, via the New York Post. “Geno put his finger in his face and told the guy, ‘Well, you’re not going to do anything about it.’ . . .
 

Elias

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Mehta is back at it with his unnamed sources. He posted a story where an "unnamed" source said that "Geno deserved it."
 
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It's not just Mehta, all reports are saying that. Who is coming to Geno's defense?
 
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