Guess Who Ranks #1 in Troy Aikman's Power Rankings?

Elias

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He's smoking.......


We are in the top ten but not number 1. Our offense is too weak.
 

Bigmoe

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I new I always liked him
No , not that way
Not that there's anything wrong with that
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jetgreen13

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He's smoking.......


We are in the top ten but not number 1. Our offense is too weak.
ivory, marshall & decker are nothing to sneeze at E..

i believe if that trio can stay on the field they will all put up "pro bowl" type numbers..

hell IMO, ivory & marshall might continue to put up "all pro" type numbers!!
 

jets82

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Safe to say we are all rational Jets fans and with that said, we all know this is bogus. Yes, we are a top ten team but #1 , HELL NO!!! Week 7 will prove just how formidable we are. We (SHOULD) be able to beat the Redskins but then its the Pats. Real test there people. Yes we can beat them but we all know the Pats have a hell of a lot to prove and angry at everyone. They are on that 2011 mission (was it)? 16-0 and crushing everyone in their path. We beat the Skins and then the Pats and the #1 ranking is warranted, until then GIVE ME A BREAK!!!.
 

jetgreen13

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Safe to say we are all rational Jets fans and with that said, we all know this is bogus. Yes, we are a top ten team but #1 , HELL NO!!! Week 7 will prove just how formidable we are. We (SHOULD) be able to beat the Redskins but then its the Pats. Real test there people. Yes we can beat them but we all know the Pats have a hell of a lot to prove and angry at everyone. They are on that 2011 mission (was it)? 16-0 and crushing everyone in their path. We beat the Skins and then the Pats and the #1 ranking is warranted, until then GIVE ME A BREAK!!!.
teams don't make or miss the playoffs based on "power rankings.." obviously..

& i agree with you & [MENTION=2]Elias[/MENTION] about the jets being a top 10 team at this point..
 

Elias

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ivory, marshall & decker are nothing to sneeze at E..

i believe if that trio can stay on the field they will all put up "pro bowl" type numbers..

hell IMO, ivory & marshall might continue to put up "all pro" type numbers!!

I agree with you that our offense is solid. Unfortunately it is being held back at QB with Fitz there. I don't think Geno would be the answer either. If we had a top 10 QB we would be outstanding. I always find it that over the long haul the team with the best QB usually wins out even if the rest of the team is flawed.
 
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Lakerfan80

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Maybe the league should separate the teams with a top 10 QB and let them play among themselves since they are the only teams with a chance...and half of the top 10 guys, whoever they are, haven't won anything.
 

Elias

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Maybe the league should separate the teams with a top 10 QB and let them play among themselves since they are the only teams with a chance...and half of the top 10 guys, whoever they are, haven't won anything.

Any given Sunday but I'll always take the team with the better QB then a team that has a weakness there. A good QB can carry a team to victory much easier than a good rb, good defense can.
 

OCCH

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Any given Sunday but I'll always take the team with the better QB then a team that has a weakness there. A good QB can carry a team to victory much easier than a good rb, good defense can.

SB history would argue that defense is the most efficient route to a championship.

Hypothetically, if the Jets did have the "best" defense capable of shutting down a high-powered offense, which opposing defense scares you? NE? GB? Which team out there has an offense AND defense to fear?

I think Troy's on to something here . . .:smiley-cool11:
 
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Lakerfan80

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Any given Sunday but I'll always take the team with the better QB then a team that has a weakness there. A good QB can carry a team to victory much easier than a good rb, good defense can.

Miami was suppose to have the better QB with Tannenhil, remember when Dolphins were picked to challenge the Pats because they have the 2nd best QB..doesn't look like Stafford can carry his team with the run game and defense struggling. Jay Cutler is one of those rocket arm QB's that can't carry his team.

Right now in this league of 32 teams in wich 12 make the playoffs, I don't see more than a couple of QB's who can carry their team without everything else in place. That gives us a chance.
 

Elias

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SB history would argue that defense is the most efficient route to a championship . . .

Not in this day and age though, unfortunately. In past SB/playoff history the team with the better defense had the slight edge but with the rule changes it has gotten easier to play offense and harder to play defense which gives the edge to the offense.


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Lakerfan80

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Denver's defense just like the Jets defense has helped overcome their QB's lack of arm and turnover issues. Maybe it's the year of the defense.
 

Elias

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Miami was suppose to have the better QB with Tannenhil, remember when Dolphins were picked to challenge the Pats because they have the 2nd best QB..doesn't look like Stafford can carry his team with the run game and defense struggling. Jay Cutler is one of those rocket arm QB's that can't carry his team.

Right now in this league of 32 teams in wich 12 make the playoffs, I don't see more than a couple of QB's who can carry their team without everything else in place. That gives us a chance.

None of those guys are good QBs. Tannenhill is way overrated. Ask any Jets fan or AFC east fan that has seen him play and They could have told you that it's easy to beat him. Cutler is awful. Stafford I always thought was good but the oline is messing up his play. The awfulness of the Lions is attributed to their oline troubles.

When I meant top QB, I was thinking this list.

Brady
Rodgers
Brees
Manning
Wilson
Big Ben
Andrew Luck
Matt Ryan
Eli Manning
Joe Flacco

Teams with those guys will always have the chance to win.

Having said that, I think we have a great chance of making some damage in the regular season and beyond this year. If Fitz plays good enough to sustain drives and put up some points then we are golden. Jets just can't get themselves in a shoot out of jets will lose. Unfortunately with our weakness at QB, everything has to go right or we'll get screwed. We can't afford to have horrible starts like they did against Philly.


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Lakerfan80

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8 of those 10 guys have won all the SB in the last 15-20 years. I wouldn't include Bree's on the list anymore, still a very good QB, but won't lead a team without the defense and offensive weapons. You're fooling yourself if you think Payton Manning is 4-0 if he has Luck's team, playing without that great defense and talents like Thomas and Sanders. I like Matt Ryan, who's had a top 5 receiver from his 1st game played and he has his interception numbers down this season. E. Manning is great when he has a #1 guy like Burress, or Cruz and now Beckham.

The game against Philly our QB was missing 2 of his top 3 targets and the depth didn't step up. Only one or two guys on your list could overcome that.
 
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flgreen

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I hate when the Jets start getting National recognition. Historically that's when the hammer falls.

With that said, I can't see the Jets being the #1 team in the NFL, but people, mostly Jets fans, are acting like Fitz is a bad QB. He's not.

Seems to me I saw him throw a ball 60 yards in the air, and drop it in with in a foot of being a perfect throw on the first play of the game. Followed up with another very long throw, that had a fair chance of being another long gainer if Smith wasn't knocked to the ground.

Yeah their are QB's out there that can throw it 70 yards in the air, but often miss the receiver by 5 yards. Teams are going to pay dearly if they attempt to put 8-9 men in the box the way they did last year against the Jets run game.

Also some of those QB's that can throw the ball 70 yards in the air, hold it for 5+ seconds, often resulting in damaging sacks. Fitz is often getting the ball out around 2 seconds. Jets have only surrendered 2 sacks.. With Fitz the ball is often out before the WR makes his cut.

Fitz might just be the right guy at the right time for this team. We'll see
 
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Mainejet

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He's smoking.......


We are in the top ten but not number 1. Our offense is too weak.

And therefore, we're NOT strong enough to even belong to the top ten. We have almost NO depth on offense, our QB sucks, and our ST is suspect. We are NOT a top ten team and that's just the way it is.

What's nice about this season, is that we are really not that far off competing for a SB. But although there are not many players we need, we may NEVER find them.

This is team is about 3 or 4 players away. But the biggest player that's need is a FRANCHISE QB. Who knows if we'll ever find that? We haven't had one for what now? Not since Kenny O'Brien?

That often takes teams 20 years or more to find that guy. We have hope for Bryce Petty, but who knows what he'll ever become.

An objective ranking of this team is somewhere in the high teens. I would put them at about 19 and I think that is fair.

It shows a MASSIVE amount of improvement since last season, but still a few players away.
 

OCCH

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Not in this day and age though, unfortunately. In past SB/playoff history the team with the better defense had the slight edge but with the rule changes it has gotten easier to play offense and harder to play defense which gives the edge to the offense.


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How do you explain the Giants (who were FAR from "elite") knocking off the Pats TWICE? Or Seattle manhandling the mighty Manning? Or the Pats overcoming "the greatest show on turf"? In fact, is there ONE example of a top offense defeating a top defense? I guess you could say last year, but that was an OFFENSIVE brain fart that cost the game more than any defensive inferiority.

If I had to choose between an elite defense/mediocre QB or mediocre defense/elite QB, I'm choosing the first option EVERY TIME (maybe throw in a strong OL just to make sure:D) and I think NFL history agrees with that assessment . . .
 
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flgreen

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And therefore, we're NOT strong enough to even belong to the top ten. We have almost NO depth on offense, our QB sucks, and our ST is suspect. We are NOT a top ten team and that's just the way it is.

What's nice about this season, is that we are really not that far off competing for a SB. But although there are not many players we need, we may NEVER find them.

This is team is about 3 or 4 players away. But the biggest player that's need is a FRANCHISE QB. Who knows if we'll ever find that? We haven't had one for what now? Not since Kenny O'Brien?

That often takes teams 20 years or more to find that guy. We have hope for Bryce Petty, but who knows what he'll ever become.

An objective ranking of this team is somewhere in the high teens. I would put them at about 19 and I think that is fair.

It shows a MASSIVE amount of improvement since last season, but still a few players away.

Not sure I agree that the Jets have no depth.

Not going to discuss it here(been discussed a 1,000 times) But we disagree that Ftz sucks. Don't think he's a "carry the team on his back" kind of QB, but I think he nicely fits the model for a "ground and pound team" which is what the Jets are.

OL-Jets just pulled a guy off the bench in Winters, who handled an elite NT is Suh rather well. Don't know what will happen going forward, but it looked good Sunday.

They are also carrying a guy on the roster named Qvale, who, as Ham has pointed out, the Jets have gone to great lengths to protect him from waivers. He's getting some snaps as a blocking TE. Have to assume they are very high on him. They drafted Jarvis Harrison, who some people put a 2nd round grade on. Guys a monster. Reason he was still there was the rap on him is he doesn't love football. Wants to play basketball. Lets see what the CS can do with him. He surely has the natural tools.

WR- Marshall and Decker are as good a tandem as you could ask for. Kerley isn't getting any reps, but he is certainly a reliable slot guy, with good hands. The reason he isn't getting any reps is because the CS seems to think they have more talented depth. Smith, a very talented kid who was drafted early in the 2nd round . Owusu, tall kid, big speed, if he can stay on the field can be a major contributor. Enuwu-Another big guy. I haven't been to impressed, but somebody on the CS seems to be in love with him.

RB- Again Ivory and Powell compliment one another very well. Stacy is a stop gap until Ridley returns to practice week 6, and to games week 8. If Ridley can return to what he was with the Pats, they are going have a powerful smashmouth running game. Don't see any reason why he can't, he's only 27 I think

TE's- So far the weakest unit on the team

That looks like pretty good depth to me. Back up's on any team are back ups for a reason. They all have some question marks which keeps them on the bench. That's true on ALL teams not just the Jets.

All in all looks like a pretty good group to me
 
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