Can we finally play Petty now to see what he has for the rest of the season!!!

[flgreen]

I like Petty, I liked the pick where we got him and he's shown some good in preseason. But keep in mind that he was not the prospect Gene was coming out, and it's quite possible that if Geno was spoonfed to us in a few preseason games and nothing more, we might be feeling better about him than we are about Petty at this point.

I'd rather err on the side of caution this year. And I'm definitely not going all in - I'd draft a QB next year for sure.

I also think, if they haven't made up their mind about Geno yet, he's the one that needs to get on the field. Petty isn't going anywhere.

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Seems like they have made their mind up.

Dennis Waszak Jr. ‏@DWAZ73 1h1 hour ago
There was thought that #Jets need to play Geno Smith to find out if can be team's future. Him NOT playing suggests they already have answer.

Connor Hughes ‏@Connor_J_Hughes 1h1 hour ago
TB sees Fitz/Geno everyday in practice, talks to QB coach, OC everyone on O side of the ball. Has seen game film. Unwavering with Fitz

Darryl Slater ‏@DarrylSlater 1h1 hour ago
Based on what Todd Bowles is saying, he's all-in right now with starting Fitzpatrick, and keeping Geno Smith on the sideline, barring injury


Connor Hughes ‏@Connor_J_Hughes 1h1 hour ago
The fact Bowles is continuing to stick with Fitzpatrick no questions asked/no thought to Geno, tells you everything you need to know. #NYJ

 

[isired]

Seems like they have made their mind up.

Dennis Waszak Jr. ‏@DWAZ73 1h1 hour ago
There was thought that #Jets need to play Geno Smith to find out if can be team's future. Him NOT playing suggests they already have answer.

Connor Hughes ‏@Connor_J_Hughes 1h1 hour ago
TB sees Fitz/Geno everyday in practice, talks to QB coach, OC everyone on O side of the ball. Has seen game film. Unwavering with Fitz

Darryl Slater ‏@DarrylSlater 1h1 hour ago
Based on what Todd Bowles is saying, he's all-in right now with starting Fitzpatrick, and keeping Geno Smith on the sideline, barring injury


Connor Hughes ‏@Connor_J_Hughes 1h1 hour ago
The fact Bowles is continuing to stick with Fitzpatrick no questions asked/no thought to Geno, tells you everything you need to know. #NYJ

Totally agree - if Geno doesn't start another gage this year, he's got to be gone, they already made up their mind. If he doesn't start again and they bring him back next year, I'll be concerned.

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[Atljet60]

I'm surprised no one has mentioned yet but feel we all know the answer to this reasonable question: What's a rookie QB best friend? Well it's a run game. Since we've lost ours there's no way he should be out there. However, I'm open to him playing in mop up games when the damage is minimal. Or in a case where injuries cause us to have no other choice.

 

[NYJETSDAN16]

As much as i like Bryce, i think by placing Geno in there it would help the Jets long term.

We're probably not winning another game when Geno is given the reigns, Hence we'll have a top 10 selection in April. Thus we can possibly trade up for a playmaker such as Fournette. A RB that we desperatly need.

Let's pump the breaks on Petty. I'd give him the final two games if anything, not now.

 

[ucrenegade]

Me either.

I became intrigued with him about half way through his senior season. Smith, Austin, and Bailey were tearing up the NCAA. People were saying he was going to perhaps be the first pick in the draft. The Jets needed a QB so I started watching West Virginia. Think they lost 6 of their last 8 games.

I wasn't all that impressed. Then came the Pin Stripe Bowl. Think they lost 38-14 in horrible weather. The weather wasn't half as horrible as smith's play. if you look at the stats, they don't look to horrible, Nassib's stats weren't great either, but in my mind I had no doubt that smith was going to be a horrible NFL QB. You had to watch the game to see how bad he actually was. Fist time I think I saw him do his patterned step out of the back of the end zone for a safety.

Didn't want any part of him after that. Seems like most of the league felt the same way

yep and nassib actually beat him twice in his career and SU has not been as good as the mcnabb days so I knew Geno would not be a good QB in the NFL if he couldn't beat SU.

 

[isired]

yep and nassib actually beat him twice in his career and SU has not been as good as the mcnabb days so I knew Geno would not be a good QB in the NFL if he couldn't beat SU.

I think Syracuse upset a top-10 ranked Louisville that year too, so I guess Minn should give up on Bridgewater too. [emoji14]

 

[LGM]

With all due respect to the fire breathing, torch waving, fire everybody posters.....

(edit... to the credit of the mods at JFU not nearly as bad as some other Jet message boards where multiple Fire Bowles, Fire Maccagnan and Start Geno threads have sprung up since Sunday)

the Jets at 5-5 are tied for FIFTH place in the AFC

 

[gastineau]

How many more years should Geno get to learn Basic fundamentals of playing QB? Geno still cant take the ball under Center & do a 3-5-7 step drop & plant his feet to pass. Geno cant read Defenses & audible the Correct call. Geno telegraphs his passes & like Sanchez locks onto 1 WR to throw to. Geno isnt an accurate passer because of his feet & is limited QB that can only play from shotgun which hurts the run game from showing Defense 7 yds back where the ball is going & swarm to it. I'm sick of Geno saying he is a Pro Bowl QB but not making the effort to learn the basics of his position in 3 years. I dont want Geno on roster because he hasnt or wont learn because he knows he is Pro Bowl QB when he isnt much better than a High School QB. FITZ is a better QB .

 

[BigDan]

Let's be realistic: there is no way Bowles is going to make a change like that right now. This is his first year as a HC, does anybody really think he wants to tell the world that the team is writing off the rest of the season? Just to play a game of 'what if' with the QB spot? They are 5/5, and still in it. He still has to play like they can make it to round one, and some kind of 'what the hell, lets try this' approach would be a disaster for him.

And I don't want them to make a change: Fitz is not a major part of the problem. How many more dropped passes can we take? He puts the ball where it needs to be more often than not, but these guys just can't grab the ball. And our defense is half asleep.

 

[lounap23]

Let me make this clear.... Fitz is not the problem this year...... Even with his mistakes... The things that have hurt the Jets this year has been bad 3rd dwn play calling, injuries to key players that hurt the defense and the running game. And some terrible play calling on 3rd and 4 or less in crucial situations.......

I like Fitz for 2 reasons:

1. The team looks to him as a leader. Much needed after the Sanchez and Geno experiments.

2. Most importantly as pointed out by another poster somehwere on this board... He will teach Petty the mental part of the game as well as how to prepare for every game. Petty has all the physicall tools....

Fitz's mistakes are not mental ones... His picks are due to 2 factors. Throwing to Wr that are covered and trying to have your players make plays, though he never forces it inside of his own 35... watched a lot of tape... very rarely if ever forces it in his own zone... I am ok with that.... and his arm strength does hurt him on some throws.

Petty won't have problem #2 and I hope he has problem #1... You gotta get the ball to your players as long as he is smart like Fitz in his own zone....

Let him sit the rest of the year and learn and if it takes next year too I am ok with that.,... Petty will be special... My guess is he is the starter next year.

 

[soj]

Let me make sure I clear this up so that everybody understands. I'm not saying the Jets should play Petty because he's going to save this season. I'm not saying the Jets should play Petty because Fitz has lost us this season and his play should have him benched. I'm also not saying they should play Petty just for the sake of doing it and watch him get crushed. What I am saying is if the Jets believe Petty is at least 75% ready then he can do no worse then what Fitz or Geno can do, so why not play him. I'm also saying that Petty maybe that spark that the Jets need, that new fresh blood that can rejuvenate them. I'm also saying that spark or not, the Jets are not going to make the playoffs by the way they look with any QB we have on our roster anyway. So give the kid some reps and let's see what he can do before the year ends and before we all start jumping on the bandwagon of drafting another QB.

you keep ignoring the fact that the OL is the problem... it doesn't matter if #12 is back there they are playing terrible. Putting Petty there would be a disaster.i.e., Last two young QB put into service... how did that work out?

 

[jetgreen13]

you keep ignoring the fact that the OL is the problem... it doesn't matter if #12 is back there they are playing terrible. Putting Petty there would be a disaster.i.e., Last two young QB put into service... how did that work out?

if or when the jets are out of the playoff hunt i think you have to play the kid some..

i've read here more than a few times, we need to keep drafting QB's until we find a keeper.. i agree, BTW..

but what if that "keeper" is petty??

someone here said recently, (wish i remembered so i could give credit due) if the jets draft a QB in the first round next season, that would essentially keep petty from competing for the starting job for no less than 3 to 4 years..

i absolutely understand the thought process of not playing the kid this season.. but i also believe if the jets legitimately believe petty can be "the guy" going forward, you need to see him play some before taking another QB high in the draft..

 

[SackExchange]

Let me make sure I clear this up so that everybody understands. I'm not saying the Jets should play Petty because he's going to save this season. I'm not saying the Jets should play Petty because Fitz has lost us this season and his play should have him benched. I'm also not saying they should play Petty just for the sake of doing it and watch him get crushed. What I am saying is if the Jets believe Petty is at least 75% ready then he can do no worse then what Fitz or Geno can do, so why not play him. I'm also saying that Petty maybe that spark that the Jets need, that new fresh blood that can rejuvenate them. I'm also saying that spark or not, the Jets are not going to make the playoffs by the way they look with any QB we have on our roster anyway. So give the kid some reps and let's see what he can do before the year ends and before we all start jumping on the bandwagon of drafting another QB.

I highlighted the portion of this response that really caught my eye. By saying you would go with Petty because he could do no worse than Geno or Fitz is putting the Jets first. If the Jets are out of it, they shouldn't be putting the Jets first. They should be putting Petty first.

You don't put him out there because he can't do worse than the other guys. You put him out there when, and only when, he is ready to assume the starting role and succeed in it.

 

[LGM]

Let Fitzpatrick finish the season as the starting QB

Let Petty continue to learn from him

Bring in another Flynn type vet next spring/summer

Draft another kid with potential

Let the four of them compete in TC



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[jets82]

It looks like a lot of people disagree with me here for one reason or another and they are all valid points and that's fine. Of course I have no problem with this but there's one thing I want to point out that if you have blinders on you need to realize, with the way this team is playing they're not going to make the playoffs. I'm not quite sure what has happened but everything has fallen apart since the New England game and it doesn't look like it's going to get fixed. If Petty has shown the coaches and the team that he is atleast 75% ready and he showing some kind of promise then they should play this kid. To see if he can somewhat be the answer will or be the answer for our future before they consider drafting another QB. Give the kid some reps, he's 24 years old. Its not like he's 21 and has really no experience at the QB position (college wise) and it's totally immature. He seems to be very mature, very talented and intelligent kid. I believe and this may just be my opinion, he can do no worse then Fitz or Geno so why not play him. If he's learning the way I hope you learning Fitz and the coaches as far as reading the defenses, learning the playbook, timing throws, situational playcalling and so on and so forth they need to give the kid a shot to see what he can get from him. He can't do no worse then Fitz and I'm honestly not saying Fitz is the reason why the Jets have fallen apart but he's playing his part in it. Fitz also won't be the sole reason if/when they start winning and I'm not saying Petty will be either but he can't do not worse then Fitz so why not play him?

 

[SackExchange]

It looks like a lot of people disagree with me here for one reason or another and they are all valid points and that's fine. Of course I have no problem with this but there's one thing I want to point out that if you have blinders on you need to realize, with the way this team is playing they're not going to make the playoffs. I'm not quite sure what has happened but everything has fallen apart since the New England game and it doesn't look like it's going to get fixed. If Petty has shown the coaches and the team that he is atleast 75% ready and he showing some kind of promise then they should play this kid. To see if he can somewhat be the answer will or be the answer for our future before they consider drafting another QB. Give the kid some reps, he's 24 years old. Its not like he's 21 and has really no experience at the QB position (college wise) and it's totally immature. He seems to be very mature, very talented and intelligent kid. I believe and this may just be my opinion, he can do no worse then Fitz or Geno so why not play him. If he's learning the way I hope you learning Fitz and the coaches as far as reading the defenses, learning the playbook, timing throws, situational playcalling and so on and so forth they need to give the kid a shot to see what he can get from him. He can't do no worse then Fitz and I'm honestly not saying Fitz is the reason why the Jets have fallen apart but he's playing his part in it. Fitz also won't be the sole reason if/when they start winning and I'm not saying Petty will be either but he can't do not worse then Fitz so why not play him?

The way this team is playing right now, the past five games? Agreed, they miss the playoffs. The way they played the first five games? On pace to be the higher seeded WC. The truth is somewhere in the middle, which is why your whole record counts, not just portions of it.

I don't see throwing Petty in this year helping his development, nor does it help the team win games. All it does is satisfy the curiosity of fans, and the hunger of those who want a change.

 

[jets82]

The way this team is playing right now, the past five games? Agreed, they miss the playoffs. The way they played the first five games? On pace to be the higher seeded WC. The truth is somewhere in the middle, which is why your whole record counts, not just portions of it.

I don't see throwing Petty in this year helping his development, nor does it help the team win games. All it does is satisfy the curiosity of fans, and the hunger of those who want a change.

Valid points and I can't argue that. I will admit I'm one of those people your talking about but there's a flip side to that. Its just my opinion and a hunch that Petty can handle it and wont wither and cower under pressure like Sanchez and Geno has. Even if he isnt 100% ready to go. I would hope he's atleast 75% ready or would agree to not put him out there but I don't know where he is in his development. None of us do in fact.

I honestly see the Jets winning 3-4 games max this year and I don't think 9 wins will be enough for a wild card. With that said and if this is true, play Petty now and give him 6 full games to see where he is and what he can do for us. See if we have a future with him or not. I feel we could win the same 3-4 games with Petty that we could with Fitz so why not.

Now obviously the coaches wont see it this way because they know better then we all do. Besides, their job is to win now and as much as possible. If they dont feel they can do that with Petty over Fitz or Geno then ofcourse they won't play him yet. They will wait until they're mathematically eliminated before and if they play him but that might not be until game 14. Will two games be enough to judge if he can possibly be our future? I dont think so but that's just my opinion.

 

[Pattycakes]

i don't agree with having Petty out there. Fitz is one of the only players on either side of the ball playing with any kind of fire- you leave the guy in. he's exceeded expectations this year. More importantly- the second you name Petty the starter is the second you give up on this season. If we keep playing like we have the past few games, we are not making the playoffs. However, we're not out of it either right now.

Starting Petty is waving the white flag. How will that sit with the veteran players? After we've been mathematically eliminated, we can possibly talk about Petty. For the time being I'd rather see the kid sit on the sideline and learn all he can. He's fortunate to have the opportunity to learn while sitting.

 

[Mugatu]

As much as Petty can gain from playing experience, there is an equal risk of ruining him by throwing him out there too early. It's happened too many times

Not to mention that the shelf life for learning QBs in New York is about 1.5 years if they're not performing. Why start that click ticking earlier than necessary if they're not 100% ready to assume the role.

To be honest I think there is only about a 10% chance Petty will become our long term solution, but why waste that chance in a bunch of meaningless games if we drop out of contention.

 

[isired]

How many more years should Geno get to learn Basic fundamentals of playing QB?

I think "none" and it seems the Jets agree, judging from the fact that Fitz didn't get a week off, one way or another, while dealing with the injury, and if you believe the scribes' tweets posted above

i absolutely understand the thought process of not playing the kid this season.. but i also believe .if the jets legitimately believe petty can be "the guy" going forward, you need to see him play some before taking another QB high in the draft..

I think that's the thing, how they pick will let us know how confident they are from what they've seen so far.