What trade value might/does Geno Smith have?

maxmet

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Perhaps a conditional 6th or 7th if someone wants to assure that they can get him.

Either that or a bag of deflated footballs.
 

Jets31

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If he is traded it will be a conditional pick for sure. Probably 6-7th that can turn into 5th. He is a young, cheap QB so he has value for sure.

My hole is we resign Fitz for 2 years and petty becomes #2. Then we draft another QB in rounds 3-5 again to groom. Have to keep trying to develop guys.
 

maxmet

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could even be less than that - like a 6th or 7th that we get ONLY if he makes the roster of the other team - a deal where we get nothing if they dont keep him
 
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BigDan

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There are only two football management people out there who would be stupid enough to give the Jets anything after seeing tape of his two years plus one game of Ryan Leaf level QB play

And it's not certain that either Tanny or the Buffalo circus clown will survive after the messes they have made of their franchises this season
 

jetgreen13

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There are only two football management people out there who would be stupid enough to give the Jets anything after seeing tape of his two years plus one game of Ryan Leaf level QB play

And it's not certain that either Tanny or the Buffalo circus clown will survive after the messes they have made of their franchises this season
i don't know where smith will be next season, i just can't see it being with the jets..

IMO, his jets career (under bowles) was over as soon as coach bowles found out about how & why smith got rocked..

granted, i only give bowles a pass for apparently not being aware what was festering in his locker room (for weeks) is that this is his rookie season..

plus, fitzpatrick is clearly a willing mentor but not surprisingly (to me anyway) it's always about trying to make petty a better QB, without any mention of smith.. ever.. ask yourselves why that is??

LOLz rhetorical question..
 
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flgreen

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i don't know where smith will be next season, i just can't see it being with the jets..

IMO, his jets career (under bowles) was over as soon as coach bowles found out about how & why smith got rocked..

granted, i only give bowles a pass for apparently not being aware what was festering in his locker room (for weeks) is that this is his rookie season..

plus, fitzpatrick is clearly a willing mentor but not surprisingly (to me anyway) it's always about trying to make petty a better QB, without any mention of smith.. ever.. ask yourselves why that is??

LOLz rhetorical question..


Yep Fitz and Petty are pretty tight. I posted this pic yesterday, but think it fits here also.

Those are Fitz's kids hanging out with Petty. That speaks volumes about what Fitz's and Petty's relationship is like.

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jetgreen13

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flgreen

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that's a pretty cool picture..

optimistic fitzpatrick truly believes his young buddy can become a legit NFL starter..

keep the two of them together as long as possible..


Agree. Yes, optimistic.

I can promise you this. Petty has all the physical tools you could ask for in a QB. Excellent arm talent. Has a superb "quirk release". Very strong. Decent mobility.

The reason he was still available in the 4th was he had a tail off season as a senior, after a tremendous Junior year. He probably should have come out then. Probably would have been a 1st rounder.

What i didn't know was he broke two small bones in his back first game of the season. Played in a lot of pain all season. Most folks didn't know that. Myself included. he still put up very good #'s.

He has the physical ability to make it in the NFL on talent alone. At least play in the NFL

He couldn't be in a better situation. He and Fitz are clearly more then team mates. Fitz invited Petty to his home after Petty was drafted. Petty accepted. So instead of boffing co-eds he decided to go to Arizona and, as he described it, "catching frogs with Fitz and his kids, and learning more about being a QB then I had in my whole life".

A guy can't teach another player how to throw a rocket. Either you can, or you can't. Petty can. Fitz can teach Petty how to be an NFL QB though.

I know I'm being a total homer, and being way optimistic, but I really think Petty is in a situation that he has an Opportunity to be an excellent QB. I think Fitz has a good chance to be a catalyst in that. That has a lot of value to me.

LOL So much for my Fitz/Petty rant. :) Stay tuned, more to come
 
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jetgreen13

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Agree. Yes, optimistic.

A guy can't teach another player how to throw a rocket. Either you can, or you can't. Petty can. Fitz can teach Petty how to be an NFL QB though.

I know I'm being a total homer, and being way optimistic, but I really think Petty is in a situation that he has an Opportunity to be an excellent QB. I think Fitz has a good chance to be a catalyst in that. That has a lot of value to me.
i haven't felt this optimistic about our QB situation since before pennington's right shoulder got ruined..

IMO, that's not being a "homer.." that's believing/acknowledging our front office knows how to evaluate talent, maturity & leadership at the QB position..

oh & fitzpatrick & rookie head coach bowlse legitimately seem to enjoy their "QB head coach" relationship.. throw in gailey to the mix & you have what we've seen so far..

all this with petty being groomed (properly) in the wings..

refreshing, yes??
 
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flgreen

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i haven't felt this optimistic about our QB situation since before pennington's right shoulder got ruined..

IMO, that's not being a "homer.." that's believing/acknowledging our front office knows how to evaluate talent, maturity & leadership at the QB position..

oh & fitzpatrick & rookie head coach bowlse legitimately seem to enjoy their "QB head coach" relationship.. throw in gailey to the mix & you have what we've seen so far..

all this with petty being groomed (properly) in the wings..

refreshing, yes?
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Yes.

Bowles did a very uncharacteristic thing today. He said he wanted Fitz back nex year. Then acknowledged he hadn't spoken to Macc about it. "But we will". Fitz said he'd love to be back. He's moved his family here.

I'd put money on it that Fitz is back next year. And probably the year after.

I'm good with that.
 

jetgreen13

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Yes.

Bowles did a very uncharacteristic thing today. He said he wanted Fitz back nex year. Then acknowledged he hadn't spoken to Macc about it. "But we will". Fitz said he'd love to be back. He's moved his family here.

I'd put money on it that Fitz is back next year. And probably the year after.

I'm good with that.
LOLz i'm sure from a bargaining standpoint, mac would have preferred rookie coach bowles keeping those thoughts in house but it ain't the end of the world..

fitzpatrick has earned at least a two year deal.. even if both sides know it probably will need to be reworked year two..
 
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flgreen

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LOLz i'm sure from a bargaining standpoint, mac would have preferred rookie coach bowles keeping those thoughts in house but it ain't the end of the world..

fitzpatrick has earned at least a two year deal.. even if both sides know it probably will need to be reworked year two..


If I had to put a number to Fitz's new deal, think it will read like a big deal, but won't be. My guess.

5 years, 30 million. 12 million guaranteed, and to be paid out over the first 2 years. The final 3 years will be at the Jets discretion.

Sounds like a lot, but in all honesty its a 2 year 12 million contract. Chump change today for a starting QB contract. Hell the Jets paid Vick 5 million.
 

jetgreen13

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If I had to put a number to Fitz's new deal, think it will read like a big deal, but won't be. My guess.

5 years, 30 million. 12 million guaranteed, and to be paid out over the first 2 years. The final 3 years will be at the Jets discretion.

Sounds like a lot, but in all honesty its a 2 year 12 million contract. Chump change today for a starting QB contract. Hell the Jets paid Vick 5 million.
& a deal like that (length wise at least) could have fitzpatrick retire as a jet, possibly as petty's backup??

BTW, i would bet fitzpatrick's wheels wouldn't fall off inside of a front loaded 5 year deal..

i really do believe fitzpatrick gets offered at least a 2 year deal.. deservedly so..
 
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