Glennon

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Not a Francesa fan, but he suggested today the best obtainable QB out there would be Mike Glennon. I completely agree and wonder if our new staff would consider such a move. I would imagine he could be had for the right price, and I would probably think the best time to pull off such a deal would be draft night. Thoughts?
 

Elias

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I prefer keeping Geno to Glennon. Glennon doesn't impress me. Someone that does intrigue me as a stop gap is Fitzpatrick. I wonder if hes available.
 

Jets31

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If he is at the right price I would consider it for sure. He has flashed at time and has a fair amount of experience.

No thank you on Fitzpatrick. We know what he is now and he has no place to go but down.
 

Elias

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If he is at the right price I would consider it for sure. He has flashed at time and has a fair amount of experience.

No thank you on Fitzpatrick. We know what he is now and he has no place to go but down.

He was playing well in Houston before he got hurt. He also had his best years with Chan Gailey as his coach in buffalo. In twelve games before he got hurt, here are his stats:

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I'd bring him in to compete with Geno and have him hold the fort until the next young qb is at the helm.
 

jetgreen13

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If he is at the right price I would consider it for sure. He has flashed at time and has a fair amount of experience.

No thank you on Fitzpatrick. We know what he is now and he has no place to go but down.
a 4th?? 5th?? conditional??
 

Jets31

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He was playing well in Houston before he got hurt. He also had his best years with Chan Gailey as his coach in buffalo. In twelve games before he got hurt, here are his stats:

G GS Comp Att Pct Yds Avg TD Int Sck SckY Rate Att Yds Avg TD FUM Lost

2014 Houston Texans 12 12 197 312 63.1 2,483 8.0 17 8 21 83 95.3 50 184 3.7 2 5 1

I'd bring him in to compete with Geno and have him hold the fort until the next young qb is at the helm.

If we draft a QB fairly high then I'm all for it but if not then I feel we are better off picking up a guy like Glennon who still has potential upside.

Glennon is big and has a pretty good arm. I don't believe he is a turnover machine either like Geno.
 
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ucrenegade

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I am still on the Matt Moore train but Fitzpatrick is fine also. I just think Moore will be cheaper and can be a decent two year rental.
 
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CodieneWanKenobi

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No Matt Moore. I'm praying to the Football Gods he doesn't come to The Jets. I would be highly upset. He's not the guy. Glennon would be a lot more benefitial but I dont believe in him either. Fitzpatrick MAYBE. I'm shocked Matt Moore even came up.
 

Jets31

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No Matt Moore. I'm praying to the Football Gods he doesn't come to The Jets. I would be highly upset. He's not the guy. Glennon would be a lot more benefitial but I dont believe in him either. Fitzpatrick MAYBE. I'm shocked Matt Moore even came up.

What's wrong with Matt Moore? I think its someone we should at least look into.
 
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CodieneWanKenobi

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What's wrong with Matt Moore? I think its someone we should at least look into.
I just don't think he's the guy that can compete with Geno the way we need to. I can acknowledge his talent but if Geno is gonna be here next year he needs to be pushed and scared for his job.
 

njimport

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This is not a long term solution. I always liked Moore as well. Bring Moore in and have him compete with Geno. I have a feeling with this new spread offense that Geno played in WV he will perform better. We can't talk about Fitzpatrick because he his still under contract correct? Until they release him it's foolish to entertain that thought. Although at what cost will Fitzpatrick demand once he is released? Matt will come cheaper and worth a flyer on him. I don't want to start trading our mid level picks to other teams for their QB when they might end up as our backup.
 

Jets31

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I just don't think he's the guy that can compete with Geno the way we need to. I can acknowledge his talent but if Geno is gonna be here next year he needs to be pushed and scared for his job.

Honestly the only thing that will truly push Geno is a top level rookie behind him.

Bringing in a vet only will push Geno but to me he is still the man to beat in that situation. We need both a rookie and Vet.

For me Geno is our Vet at this point. Bring in a rookie to sit and learn and give Simms a real chance to compete.

Give these guys some weapons and we can have some success until the rookie is ready.

We must keep drafting QBs until one sticks.
 

OCCH

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Honestly the only thing that will truly push Geno is a top level rookie behind him.

Bringing in a vet only will push Geno but to me he is still the man to beat in that situation. We need both a rookie and Vet.

For me Geno is our Vet at this point. Bring in a rookie to sit and learn and give Simms a real chance to compete.

Give these guys some weapons and we can have some success until the rookie is ready.

We must keep drafting QBs until one sticks.

The way Geno played last year, I don't see how he's "the man to beat" in ANY situation. In fact, a "top level rookie" might be the only one he can beat out, simply based on experience in the league.

If our OC can get something out of the kid, great. But I don't see how he's not "Plan B" in ANY scenario going forward . . .
 

Jets31

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The way Geno played last year, I don't see how he's "the man to beat" in ANY situation. In fact, a "top level rookie" might be the only one he can beat out, simply based on experience in the league.

If our OC can get something out of the kid, great. But I don't see how he's not "Plan B" in ANY scenario going forward . . .

Because as of now he is all we have and even if it is small he still has a chance to be a good QB. A guy who is in the league 8-10 years has no upside. They are what they are and have no place to go but down. As Parcells famously said "if you arent getting better, you are getting worse"

Believe it or not Geno improved a fair amount from year one to year two. This shouldnt be over looked. He improved even more after his benching. I'm saying there is still a chance here.

Do you honestly want a rookie QB starting week one? After what we have seen?
 

OCCH

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Because as of now he is all we have and even if it is small he still has a chance to be a good QB. A guy who is in the league 8-10 years has no upside. They are what they are and have no place to go but down. As Parcells famously said "if you arent getting better, you are getting worse"

Believe it or not Geno improved a fair amount from year one to year two. This shouldnt be over looked. He improved even more after his benching. I'm saying there is still a chance here.

Do you honestly want a rookie QB starting week one? After what we have seen?

I understand what you're saying -- I just can't get myself to agree.

I don't see how Geno was anything more than HORRENDOUS last year. The thought that he's magically going to get better is no different than me winning the lottery -- possible, but not worth betting on. If we can bring a serviceable QB in, I'm all for it. He may not be able to carry the team, but as long as he doesn't single-handedly lose games for us it will be an improvement.

Barring an AMAZING off-season, I just don't see how Geno has the upper hand in ANY competition (except against a lost rookie, and even then the rookie would have to prove to be lost before Geno got the nod). I'll give Geno the chance to prove himself, but his benefit of the doubt went out the window (for me) a long time ago . . .
 

Bronx

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Glennon is still a young, developing player. That's the big difference between him and the others mentioned. I don't trust FitzPatrick or Moore in our division. Rex and Belichick have owned both of them. Who is to say Glennon can't be a quality player in this league? I think it's worth a gamble
 

Savage69

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I prefer keeping Geno to Glennon. Glennon doesn't impress me. Someone that does intrigue me as a stop gap is Fitzpatrick. I wonder if hes available.

Hmm Lets see Glennon 29 tds 15 picks in 18 games and Geno 25 tds and 34 picks in 29 games.. And you prefer Geno why?? Because he's already a Jet?? :wtf:
 

Jets31

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Hmm Lets see Glennon 29 tds 15 picks in 18 games and Geno 25 tds and 34 picks in 29 games.. And you prefer Geno why?? Because he's already a Jet?? :wtf:

Exactly. Maybe he isn't great but at least he protects the ball.
 

Elias

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Hmm Lets see Glennon 29 tds 15 picks in 18 games and Geno 25 tds and 34 picks in 29 games.. And you prefer Geno why?? Because he's already a Jet?? :wtf:

Don't forget that since Glennon has come to this league he's played for nothing but crap teams that are always in garbage time. A lot of his tds have come when his team is already down.

Last year Geno was rushed into a starting role when he shouldn't have been. He should have been redshirted but due to injuries he was unable to sit. Coming out of college he never played under center. In addition, up until the addition of harvin, he has had shit a shit supporting class.

If nothing is out there, he deserves another chance to show improvement. Gailey will tailor a system around his skill set.
 
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