2 new cases opened on Winston for Battery and Sexual Assault

Superman55

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The woman from the first assault case and a new woman have filed separate cases against Winston for sexual assault and battery. Tampa was reportedly aware of the upcoming cases.

Some people think he will mature in the NFL...I think these type of thing will continue in the NFL because he's a scumbag...but we will see. Wonder if Tampa passes because they don't want these clouds continuously over their franchise...I really don't either.
 
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This just means it looks more and more bucs might just take mariotta. You have to know they know the real story about what he has been doing in there own backyard.
 

nycdan

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The bad thing (from a draft perspective) is if Winston falls and things are so bad that the Jets won't want him. Then one more top player will be gone before our pick. Could be the difference in getting Cooper or not for example.
 
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ucrenegade

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If those claims are legitimate and you know teams private investigators will find out he could fall out of the first round. With him and Gregory falling it might mean Dupree now finds himself picked in top 10. Who I have liked in the first place out of all the pass rushers.
 

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I'll be the 1st to say filing a suit doesn't make someone guilty and one might find some reason to suspect that the suits are financially motivated, but even if the suits have no merit, the PR mess that Tampa will inherit in the short term is huge.

Now if the suits go to trial or even if Winston settles, that is a long term nightmare for Tampa
 

Green Jets & Ham

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Doesn't surprise me.

I told you guys that if it was true that Tampa was souring on Winston, their PI's found something that scared them.

Now we know what they knew.
 

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I agree with all points made by Sarge...but after what Johnny Football did in the NFL last year, teams need to at least pause, because Johnny didn't have any of these problems over his head when he went pro. Winston may be better on the field...but his off the field issues are a million times worse than Manziel...who had issues with too many party selfies. Winston is building up case after case at this point...and is only 22...
 

Superman55

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Doesn't surprise me.

I told you guys that if it was true that Tampa was souring on Winston, their PI's found something that scared them.

Now we know what they knew.

other than getting caught stealing, screaming obscenities at the school at students, pretending to smoke weed in front of national cameras during a bowl game they got their ass kicked, and allegedly raping and beating multiple women...there's no concerns with this guy...
 
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ucrenegade

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I think more NFL teams because of the way this transpired can no longer look the other way as much like landry did with his cowboys and madden and the raiders.

Now we have hernadez,AP,and rice not to mention past afflictions like lewis and carruth.
 

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other than getting caught stealing, screaming obscenities at the school at students, pretending to smoke weed in front of national cameras during a bowl game they got their ass kicked, and allegedly raping and beating multiple women...there's no concerns with this guy...
The sad part is, if Winston slides to the Jets, then my TOP 5 (Williams, Cooper, White, Fowler and Mariota) all probably go off the board ahead of us, and our prize for beating Miami is a kid who is compiling rap sheet like Al Capone.

One of those elite five (on my board) was always predicated on Tampa taking Winston off the board.
 

Superman55

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I think more NFL teams because of the way this transpired can no longer look the other way as much like landry did with his cowboys and madden and the raiders.

Now we have hernadez,AP,and rice not to mention past afflictions like lewis and carruth.

Hoping bucs take him so bad. Let Lovie and team work through rebuilding the man. I seriously think Lovie working with Dungy to help Winston mature would be the best scenario for him. Tampa isn't exactly NYC, you know?
 

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There are more than 5 good players in this draft. ;)
Definitely there are more than five good players, and unless this is the worst draft class ever, there will probably be more than five elite players at the next level. But going into the draft there are only four elite prospects in my view (Williams, Fowler, Cooper, White), not counting either QB, guys who you draft and anticipate an impact player and difference maker, after that you have to hope the guy you draft becomes what you expect from the elite four.

That said, if Mariota slid to us and we took him, I would have been excited about his future, but if Mariota and the other four go off the board with the first five picks, and Winston is our consolation prize for beating Miami, its gonna feel like a typical Same Old Jets moment, win a meaningless game for a coach we were firing anyway, and it plants us right in the spot to get screwed.
 

nycdan

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I think Beasley or Ray are reasonable fallbacks in that scenario, Ham. Maybe not elite, but not really that far behind Fowler.
 

Elias

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Not sure about this new allegation but to me the lady from the first assault case is trying to get a bang for her buck. This is perfect timing for her, she's hoping that Winston wants to rid of this story and settles quickly. Going into the draft with an assault trial hanging over his head would be very bad for him so settling may be in his best interest despite him being innocent.

Not saying he's innocent or guilty, just viewing it from a diff perspective.
 

Superman55

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Not sure about this new allegation but to me the lady from the first assault case is trying to get a bang for her buck. This is perfect timing for her, she's hoping that Winston wants to rid of this story and settles quickly. Going into the draft with an assault trial hanging over his head would be very bad for him so settling may be in his best interest despite him being innocent.

Not saying he's innocent or guilty, just viewing it from a diff perspective.

I think you could be right...but with his arrogance, actions and behaviors...its hard to believe these types of allegations, true or not, will ever stop following him.

Again, he has a ton of maturity issues, the type that remind me of the issues Vince Young had, where he just smelled himself too much. Im not talking football playing talent at all. I do think the kid needs a role model and mentor if he has any chance of being in the league beyond his rookie deal. I would say the same thing about Maziel, but Winston has way more talent. He just needs help the way Big Ben did.

I also think his arrogance, more than his ankle, is the reason for the 18 INTs last year. Lack of preparation and a feeling on invincibility led to his 18 INts, IMO, because even banged up, your head threw those picks, not your ankle. He made too many bad decisions...blaming bad decisions on an ankle is stupid....he had tht same bad ankle when he made the right decisions and they came from behind to win.

The kid needs a reality check and someone assigned to him 24/7 like Dez Bryant has with Dallas.
 
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Not sure about this new allegation but to me the lady from the first assault case is trying to get a bang for her buck. This is perfect timing for her, she's hoping that Winston wants to rid of this story and settles quickly. Going into the draft with an assault trial hanging over his head would be very bad for him so settling may be in his best interest despite him being innocent.

Not saying he's innocent or guilty, just viewing it from a diff perspective.
Agree 100%

IMO these new "allegations" are almost guaranteed to be the work of some sleazy lawyers attempt to wangle a piece of his rookie signing bonus to get their sleazy golddiggers to go away
 

Old#15

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Now it makes sense what Winston's attorney/agent said last week. It's all spin and damage control from here to cushion whatever bad news is out there.
 

jets82

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I tell you man, Winston is one talent I would be willing to toss Geno aside in a second because I feel he is a day one starter and franchise QB from draft day. With all this mess that keeps coming up and especially if there is any truth to it, it makes me pause big time on wanting him on our team. Winston can end up being the next Warren Sapp, Randy Moss, Dan Marino and Aaron Rodgers that the teams that do pass on him that need him will regret it forever pretty much. Or he could turn out to be the next Lawrence Phillips or Arron Hernandez. Tuff man, real tuff!
 
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