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Mike Evans - WR - Buccaneers
Mike Evans has been lining up exclusively as the Bucs' No. 1 X receiver in offseason workouts.
With Vincent Jackson getting up there in age and taking on a more Brandon Marshallian role in the slot and as the Z receiver, Evans has taken on perimeter, high-pointing, deep-ball duties at X after manning the Z spot as a rookie. Coming off a 12-score year one, the sky is the limit for Evans with a quarterback upgrade in Jameis Winston. Even with the rookie under center, Evans has WR1 upside.
Davante Adams - WR - Packers
Speaking at minicamp on Tuesday, coach Mike McCarthy declared second-year WR Davante Adams the "MVP" of Packers OTAs.
The 53rd pick in last year's draft, Adams has a firm grip on third receiver duties in an Aaron Rodgers offense, and has gobbled up first-team spring reps with Jordy Nelson (hip) sidelined. "He’s been tremendous throughout the OTAs," McCarthy said of Adams. "And he’s got more in front of him, too, so I think that’s what’s exciting. I think Davante has done a great job in the strength and conditioning. He’s been really, really good in practice throughout this deal. Davante, if you wanted me to pick an MVP or an all-star, he would definitely be atop the list."
Mike Evans has been lining up exclusively as the Bucs' No. 1 X receiver in offseason workouts.
With Vincent Jackson getting up there in age and taking on a more Brandon Marshallian role in the slot and as the Z receiver, Evans has taken on perimeter, high-pointing, deep-ball duties at X after manning the Z spot as a rookie. Coming off a 12-score year one, the sky is the limit for Evans with a quarterback upgrade in Jameis Winston. Even with the rookie under center, Evans has WR1 upside.
Davante Adams - WR - Packers
Speaking at minicamp on Tuesday, coach Mike McCarthy declared second-year WR Davante Adams the "MVP" of Packers OTAs.
The 53rd pick in last year's draft, Adams has a firm grip on third receiver duties in an Aaron Rodgers offense, and has gobbled up first-team spring reps with Jordy Nelson (hip) sidelined. "He’s been tremendous throughout the OTAs," McCarthy said of Adams. "And he’s got more in front of him, too, so I think that’s what’s exciting. I think Davante has done a great job in the strength and conditioning. He’s been really, really good in practice throughout this deal. Davante, if you wanted me to pick an MVP or an all-star, he would definitely be atop the list."
Allen Robinson - WR - Jaguars
Coach Gus Bradley wants Allen Robinson to play angrier and with more aggression.
The Jaguars want to see that "my ball" attitude out of Robinson, who has been a spring star for the Jaguars after returning from last season's broken foot. "We want to be able to throw it up to him and know he's going to come down with the ball," Bradley said. Robinson stands 6'3/210 and has a 42-inch vertical. He should be peppered with targets as the X receiver. Bradley wants Robinson to get to the point where Blake Bortles can throw him the ball even if he's covered.
Jake Matthews - T - Falcons
Falcons second-year LT Jake Matthews is excited about OC Kyle Shanahan's zone-blocking scheme.
"I think it something that's well-suited for me," Matthews said. "I feel like I have that lateral quickness and I can be a big help in this offense." Matthews fits the new scheme to a T. He's highly athletic and moves well for his size. Matthews had a terrible rookie season, but injuries were partially to blame. He sprained his ankle early in the year before suffering a Lisfranc injury late in the season.
Coach Gus Bradley wants Allen Robinson to play angrier and with more aggression.
The Jaguars want to see that "my ball" attitude out of Robinson, who has been a spring star for the Jaguars after returning from last season's broken foot. "We want to be able to throw it up to him and know he's going to come down with the ball," Bradley said. Robinson stands 6'3/210 and has a 42-inch vertical. He should be peppered with targets as the X receiver. Bradley wants Robinson to get to the point where Blake Bortles can throw him the ball even if he's covered.
Jake Matthews - T - Falcons
Falcons second-year LT Jake Matthews is excited about OC Kyle Shanahan's zone-blocking scheme.
"I think it something that's well-suited for me," Matthews said. "I feel like I have that lateral quickness and I can be a big help in this offense." Matthews fits the new scheme to a T. He's highly athletic and moves well for his size. Matthews had a terrible rookie season, but injuries were partially to blame. He sprained his ankle early in the year before suffering a Lisfranc injury late in the season.
Kelvin Brnjamin WR Panthers has ballooned to over 250lbs in Carolina causing concerns within the organization.
Watch out. Could be another Dwayne Bowe for the Cheifs.
Watch out. Could be another Dwayne Bowe for the Cheifs.
Johnny Manziel - QB - Browns
OC John DeFilippo reiterated Josh McCown will enter training camp as the starter.
Nothing has changed. If the Browns had to play a game right now, they feel McCown would give them a far better chance to win than Johnny Manziel. It's going to take a lot of on-field progress during camp for Johnny Football to seize the job -- quitting drinking and dumping the "money sign" won't be enough.
Related: Josh McCown
Johnny Manziel - QB - Browns
Johnny Manziel said he has retired the money sign.
Manziel is trying to sell everyone on his improved maturity. Dumping the trademark sign he flashed at every opportunity over the last few years is an easy step. "Last year is last year, it was what it was and it was not very good," Manziel said. "So for me, I’m trying to close that chapter and just build on what I've done so far this year and just move forward, and try to close that chapter in my life." Johnny Football will enter camp firmly behind Josh McCown.
Kelvin Benjamin - WR - Panthers
The Charlotte Observer reports Kelvin Benjamin reported to Panthers spring workouts "8-9 pounds overweight."
In the meantime, Benjamin has suffered injuries to both hamstrings, costing him almost all of OTAs. Benjamin practiced on Tuesday, but won't take part in Thursday's session due to a right hamstring strain. Benjamin played last season at 245 pounds, so he must've been in the mid-250s when OTAs started. Benjamin has some history of weight fluctuation; he was reportedly 20 pounds overweight when he originally showed up at Florida State, forcing the Seminoles to redshirt him as a freshman. On Wednesday, coach Ron Rivera suggested Benjamin's hamstring woes may have resulted from his poor conditioning.
OC John DeFilippo reiterated Josh McCown will enter training camp as the starter.
Nothing has changed. If the Browns had to play a game right now, they feel McCown would give them a far better chance to win than Johnny Manziel. It's going to take a lot of on-field progress during camp for Johnny Football to seize the job -- quitting drinking and dumping the "money sign" won't be enough.
Related: Josh McCown
Johnny Manziel - QB - Browns
Johnny Manziel said he has retired the money sign.
Manziel is trying to sell everyone on his improved maturity. Dumping the trademark sign he flashed at every opportunity over the last few years is an easy step. "Last year is last year, it was what it was and it was not very good," Manziel said. "So for me, I’m trying to close that chapter and just build on what I've done so far this year and just move forward, and try to close that chapter in my life." Johnny Football will enter camp firmly behind Josh McCown.
Kelvin Benjamin - WR - Panthers
The Charlotte Observer reports Kelvin Benjamin reported to Panthers spring workouts "8-9 pounds overweight."
In the meantime, Benjamin has suffered injuries to both hamstrings, costing him almost all of OTAs. Benjamin practiced on Tuesday, but won't take part in Thursday's session due to a right hamstring strain. Benjamin played last season at 245 pounds, so he must've been in the mid-250s when OTAs started. Benjamin has some history of weight fluctuation; he was reportedly 20 pounds overweight when he originally showed up at Florida State, forcing the Seminoles to redshirt him as a freshman. On Wednesday, coach Ron Rivera suggested Benjamin's hamstring woes may have resulted from his poor conditioning.
Allen Robinson - WR - Jaguars
Allen Robinson and Allen Hurns will work out at Larry Fitzgerald's receivers camp this summer.
They won't be the only ones, as Fitzgerald annually hosts a number of receivers and quarterbacks from around the league. At the camp, receivers work on route running, agility, speed, and receiver-specific drills. It doesn't automatically translate to success, but it doesn't hurt learning from one of the game's best in Fitzgerald. Robinson's ADP has climbed a full round over the past month.
Allen Robinson - WR - Jaguars
According to the Associated Press, second-year WR Allen Robinson has been "unbelievable" at Jaguars OTAs.
Robinson -- who doesn't turn 22 until August -- has reportedly looked like a "star" at OTAs and minicamp, "showing big-play ability all over the field and most noticeably in and around the end zone." Blake Bortles described 6-foot-3, 210-pound Robinson as "fun to throw to." Bortles' passing inefficiency remains a concern, but Robinson is a sneaky bet to finish top ten in the NFL in targets this season. He's the clear-cut No. 1 pass option in Jacksonville.
Mike Evans - WR - Buccaneers
Mike Evans trained with Randy Moss this offseason.
Moss invited Evans to North Carolina, where the two worked out for a week in March. "We were just talking about the league," said Evans. "It was pretty much just his knowledge of the game and some stories of what he’s been through." Picking the brain of one of the best wide receivers ever isn't a bad way to spend offseason time. Evans should be primed for a huge season with No. 1 pick Jameis Winston under center.
Jordan Matthews - WR - Eagles
Jordan Matthews is expected to continue to focus on playing the slot as a second-year receiver.
Matthews mixed in on the outside in red-zone formations during OTAs and minicamp, but he's been the primary slot man in three-wide sets. There seems to be an obsession amongst some inside the fantasy community about Matthews "playing outside more," but Chip Kelly sees him as a mismatch creator in the slot, where Matthews showed the ability to win regularly as a rookie. It's not a negative. Matthews may be a superior talent, but his utilization is similar to an earlier-career Marques Colston. Matthews remains the favorite to lead the Eagles in every receiving category this year, offering legitimate WR1 fantasy upside.
Kelvin Benjamin - WR - Panthers
Panthers GM Dave Gettleman described reports of Kelvin Benjamin reporting to offseason workouts 8-9 pounds overweight as, "much ado about nothing."
"Right now he's only five pounds off his playing weight," Gettleman said. "That's it." A bigger deal would've been Benjamin reporting to training camp in late July ten pounds overweight. Doing it in June allows Benjamin plenty of time to get his conditioning in check. Gettleman is right: It's not a big deal.
Josh Huff - WR - Eagles
Josh Huff has struggled to consistently catch the ball during spring practices.
"It's mental plays here and there, especially when I get tired, or I fall behind on a play, or I don't get back in time and I don't see the play," Huff said of his miscues. In OTAs and minicamp where receivers are supposed to shine, Huff has been up-and-down. After being talked up before the draft, it sounds like Huff has settled back in as the No. 4 receiver. Seyi Ajirotutu is also pushing him for snaps.
Johnny Manziel - QB - Browns
Johnny Manziel has struggled with "throwing accuracy" at spring practices.
ESPN Cleveland's Tony Grossi says Manziel has impressed the coaching staff with "improvement in little things, such as getting the plays called and off on time," but his ball placement remains a major issue. Grossi believes Connor Show or even Thad Lewis could eventually challenge Manziel to be the Browns' No. 2 quarterback behind locked-in (imagine that) starter Josh McCown.
C.J. Mosley - LB - Ravens
Ravens ILB C.J. Mosley (wrist) expects to be full-go for training camp.
Mosley missed the entire offseason program after undergoing wrist surgery. The DROY runner-up to Aaron Donald should be fine for his every-down workload.
Jeremy Butler - WR - Ravens
Joe Flacco said second-year WR Jeremy Butler was "incredible" at this week's minicamp.
Ravens receivers coach Bobby Engram shared the same sentiment, describing Butler's play as "unbelievable." Butler spent his rookie season sidelined by a shoulder injury. At 6'2/224, 24-year-old Butler has size to create mismatches in the slot. He's still a major long shot for any fantasy relevance.
Allen Robinson and Allen Hurns will work out at Larry Fitzgerald's receivers camp this summer.
They won't be the only ones, as Fitzgerald annually hosts a number of receivers and quarterbacks from around the league. At the camp, receivers work on route running, agility, speed, and receiver-specific drills. It doesn't automatically translate to success, but it doesn't hurt learning from one of the game's best in Fitzgerald. Robinson's ADP has climbed a full round over the past month.
Allen Robinson - WR - Jaguars
According to the Associated Press, second-year WR Allen Robinson has been "unbelievable" at Jaguars OTAs.
Robinson -- who doesn't turn 22 until August -- has reportedly looked like a "star" at OTAs and minicamp, "showing big-play ability all over the field and most noticeably in and around the end zone." Blake Bortles described 6-foot-3, 210-pound Robinson as "fun to throw to." Bortles' passing inefficiency remains a concern, but Robinson is a sneaky bet to finish top ten in the NFL in targets this season. He's the clear-cut No. 1 pass option in Jacksonville.
Mike Evans - WR - Buccaneers
Mike Evans trained with Randy Moss this offseason.
Moss invited Evans to North Carolina, where the two worked out for a week in March. "We were just talking about the league," said Evans. "It was pretty much just his knowledge of the game and some stories of what he’s been through." Picking the brain of one of the best wide receivers ever isn't a bad way to spend offseason time. Evans should be primed for a huge season with No. 1 pick Jameis Winston under center.
Jordan Matthews - WR - Eagles
Jordan Matthews is expected to continue to focus on playing the slot as a second-year receiver.
Matthews mixed in on the outside in red-zone formations during OTAs and minicamp, but he's been the primary slot man in three-wide sets. There seems to be an obsession amongst some inside the fantasy community about Matthews "playing outside more," but Chip Kelly sees him as a mismatch creator in the slot, where Matthews showed the ability to win regularly as a rookie. It's not a negative. Matthews may be a superior talent, but his utilization is similar to an earlier-career Marques Colston. Matthews remains the favorite to lead the Eagles in every receiving category this year, offering legitimate WR1 fantasy upside.
Kelvin Benjamin - WR - Panthers
Panthers GM Dave Gettleman described reports of Kelvin Benjamin reporting to offseason workouts 8-9 pounds overweight as, "much ado about nothing."
"Right now he's only five pounds off his playing weight," Gettleman said. "That's it." A bigger deal would've been Benjamin reporting to training camp in late July ten pounds overweight. Doing it in June allows Benjamin plenty of time to get his conditioning in check. Gettleman is right: It's not a big deal.
Josh Huff - WR - Eagles
Josh Huff has struggled to consistently catch the ball during spring practices.
"It's mental plays here and there, especially when I get tired, or I fall behind on a play, or I don't get back in time and I don't see the play," Huff said of his miscues. In OTAs and minicamp where receivers are supposed to shine, Huff has been up-and-down. After being talked up before the draft, it sounds like Huff has settled back in as the No. 4 receiver. Seyi Ajirotutu is also pushing him for snaps.
Johnny Manziel - QB - Browns
Johnny Manziel has struggled with "throwing accuracy" at spring practices.
ESPN Cleveland's Tony Grossi says Manziel has impressed the coaching staff with "improvement in little things, such as getting the plays called and off on time," but his ball placement remains a major issue. Grossi believes Connor Show or even Thad Lewis could eventually challenge Manziel to be the Browns' No. 2 quarterback behind locked-in (imagine that) starter Josh McCown.
C.J. Mosley - LB - Ravens
Ravens ILB C.J. Mosley (wrist) expects to be full-go for training camp.
Mosley missed the entire offseason program after undergoing wrist surgery. The DROY runner-up to Aaron Donald should be fine for his every-down workload.
Jeremy Butler - WR - Ravens
Joe Flacco said second-year WR Jeremy Butler was "incredible" at this week's minicamp.
Ravens receivers coach Bobby Engram shared the same sentiment, describing Butler's play as "unbelievable." Butler spent his rookie season sidelined by a shoulder injury. At 6'2/224, 24-year-old Butler has size to create mismatches in the slot. He's still a major long shot for any fantasy relevance.
Ultimately, Benjamin should be a hybrid WR/TE type of receiver who can use his natural height & bulk to threaten the middle of the field and the short edge of the defense, dragging half the dime defense around with him inside, outside, and over the top, thereby opening up large areas of the field for other receivers in single coverages.
In the end it doesn't matter what he's listed as, so much as what he can provide to challenge secondary-heavy coverage packages & ideally should be playing at around 230# to 235# and no more.
This may be the plan in CAR, with Hill stepping up, if he can, to take on the deep threat duties & provide dual threats in the red zone for Newton.
In the end it doesn't matter what he's listed as, so much as what he can provide to challenge secondary-heavy coverage packages & ideally should be playing at around 230# to 235# and no more.
This may be the plan in CAR, with Hill stepping up, if he can, to take on the deep threat duties & provide dual threats in the red zone for Newton.
HYATT™;40681 said:
Wouldn't you say funchess brings a similar skill set? Olsen has a similar responsibility. They desperately need a guy on the outside to keep the middle free, imo.
Martavis Bryant - WR - Steelers
ESPN’s Jeremy Fowler expects Martavis Bryant to be the Steelers’s primary red-zone option.
Bryant converted four of his eight red-zone targets into touchdowns last year. He projects for higher volume in the red zone as the starting Z receiver opposite Antonio Brown. Bryant is fully expected to relegate Markus Wheaton to the slot.
ESPN’s Jeremy Fowler expects Martavis Bryant to be the Steelers’s primary red-zone option.
Bryant converted four of his eight red-zone targets into touchdowns last year. He projects for higher volume in the red zone as the starting Z receiver opposite Antonio Brown. Bryant is fully expected to relegate Markus Wheaton to the slot.
David Carr explains why younger brother Derek is a better QB
Posted by Michael David Smith on June 25, 2015, 1:23 PM EDT
Houston Texans vs Tennessee Titans - December 11, 2005
As the first overall pick in the 2002 NFL draft, David Carr was a disappointment. As the second-round pick of the Raiders in the 2014 NFL draft, Derek Carr showed a lot of promise.
David says his younger brother is going to be a better quarterback because Derek has the mental makeup needed, whereas David never got comfortable while trying to be the face of the expansion Houston Texans.
“He understands the game more than I did, so his confidence level is just off the charts,” David said on 95.7 The Game. “[His] leadership ability is kind of where I was never at early on in my career. He’s able to go out and get guys that are seven, eight years older than him to actually buy in to what he’s doing, and believe that he can play, and believe that he can go out and lead the team.”
David Carr’s rookie season was brutal, as he was sacked 76 times, fumbled 21 times and threw 15 interceptions. He thinks his little brother always looks more comfortable than he ever was.
“He just has a natural ability to throw the ball, just effortlessly, and it’s not really difficult for him,” David said. “It literally is effortless for him to throw the football.”
The Raiders hope Derek keeps looking as comfortable as he did as a rookie. And they hope they can build a better team around him than Houston ever built around David.
Posted by Michael David Smith on June 25, 2015, 1:23 PM EDT
Houston Texans vs Tennessee Titans - December 11, 2005
As the first overall pick in the 2002 NFL draft, David Carr was a disappointment. As the second-round pick of the Raiders in the 2014 NFL draft, Derek Carr showed a lot of promise.
David says his younger brother is going to be a better quarterback because Derek has the mental makeup needed, whereas David never got comfortable while trying to be the face of the expansion Houston Texans.
“He understands the game more than I did, so his confidence level is just off the charts,” David said on 95.7 The Game. “[His] leadership ability is kind of where I was never at early on in my career. He’s able to go out and get guys that are seven, eight years older than him to actually buy in to what he’s doing, and believe that he can play, and believe that he can go out and lead the team.”
David Carr’s rookie season was brutal, as he was sacked 76 times, fumbled 21 times and threw 15 interceptions. He thinks his little brother always looks more comfortable than he ever was.
“He just has a natural ability to throw the ball, just effortlessly, and it’s not really difficult for him,” David said. “It literally is effortless for him to throw the football.”
The Raiders hope Derek keeps looking as comfortable as he did as a rookie. And they hope they can build a better team around him than Houston ever built around David.
See what it's like to catch pass from Raiders' Carr
Raiders quarterback Derek Carr has some heat on his fastball. That’s been pretty standard throughout his career and clearly evident during a rookie season where the 2014 second-round pick started all 16 games.
Carr said after his June 9 press conference that his passes have a bit more juice following mandated rest to rehab a right finger injury.
Exactly how fast does a Derek Carr pass come at you. The second-year pro offered a unique perspective Tuesday on his Instagram page. He posted a few videos throwing right at the camera. A receiver caught one from 12 yards out, right at the point of impact. Another hit the lens.
[RELATED: David Carr: Derek's 'confidence level is off the charts']
These posts have created considerable buzz, and former NFL quarterback, current ESPN analyst Mark Brunell is doing one for his network.
Here are the original posts:
http://www.csnbayarea.com/raiders/see-what-its-catch-pass-raiders-carr
Raiders quarterback Derek Carr has some heat on his fastball. That’s been pretty standard throughout his career and clearly evident during a rookie season where the 2014 second-round pick started all 16 games.
Carr said after his June 9 press conference that his passes have a bit more juice following mandated rest to rehab a right finger injury.
Exactly how fast does a Derek Carr pass come at you. The second-year pro offered a unique perspective Tuesday on his Instagram page. He posted a few videos throwing right at the camera. A receiver caught one from 12 yards out, right at the point of impact. Another hit the lens.
[RELATED: David Carr: Derek's 'confidence level is off the charts']
These posts have created considerable buzz, and former NFL quarterback, current ESPN analyst Mark Brunell is doing one for his network.
Here are the original posts:
http://www.csnbayarea.com/raiders/see-what-its-catch-pass-raiders-carr
Should St. Louis Rams Let Gurley into Training Camp?
If there is one thing you can take away from the St. Louis Rams’ 10th overall pick through the baby steps of OTA’s, it’s that he is bound determined to get on the field as quickly as possible. Running back Todd Gurley has been rehabbing for over seven months now, and he worked hard on sideline drills and walkthroughs during OTA’s. Gurley mentioned to the media that he is hoping to get on the field by training camp, and the only concern should be, should St. Louis let him?
ACL’s are a tricky matter. You don’t want to rush them, but at the same time, you cannot simply baby them forever. There is a clear reason why the Rams drafted him, and putting him on the bench won’t win any games, especially against the tougher part of the Rams schedule.
It is impossible to know exactly when they should let Gurley play, but the Rams should make sure to use training camp wisely to let Gurley get his feet wet. If Fisher wants to just throw Gurley in, that’s fine, but do it during the regular season. The last thing I want to see is Todd Gurley re-tearing his ACL in the preseason after his eleventh rush, or even as another horror story from training camp. Bring Gurley in, continue to bring him along slowly, and he will be ready for week one.
Gurley has put in the mental reps. He is studying hard, and even now that OTA’s are finished, Gurley says he still will be learning the playbook and studying harder and harder to be ready for the season. With the effort he is putting in, it won’t be too difficult for him to just start week one and learn on the go.
Gurley might be ready by training camp, but St Louis shouldn’t release the gate until week one at the minimum.
If there is one thing you can take away from the St. Louis Rams’ 10th overall pick through the baby steps of OTA’s, it’s that he is bound determined to get on the field as quickly as possible. Running back Todd Gurley has been rehabbing for over seven months now, and he worked hard on sideline drills and walkthroughs during OTA’s. Gurley mentioned to the media that he is hoping to get on the field by training camp, and the only concern should be, should St. Louis let him?
ACL’s are a tricky matter. You don’t want to rush them, but at the same time, you cannot simply baby them forever. There is a clear reason why the Rams drafted him, and putting him on the bench won’t win any games, especially against the tougher part of the Rams schedule.
It is impossible to know exactly when they should let Gurley play, but the Rams should make sure to use training camp wisely to let Gurley get his feet wet. If Fisher wants to just throw Gurley in, that’s fine, but do it during the regular season. The last thing I want to see is Todd Gurley re-tearing his ACL in the preseason after his eleventh rush, or even as another horror story from training camp. Bring Gurley in, continue to bring him along slowly, and he will be ready for week one.
Gurley has put in the mental reps. He is studying hard, and even now that OTA’s are finished, Gurley says he still will be learning the playbook and studying harder and harder to be ready for the season. With the effort he is putting in, it won’t be too difficult for him to just start week one and learn on the go.
Gurley might be ready by training camp, but St Louis shouldn’t release the gate until week one at the minimum.
Funchess doesn't have nearly enough speed to take the top off a defense, nor does Olsen.
Benjamin doesn't either, but what Benjamin DOES have over the other 2, is phenomenal body control and incredible agility in awkward positions.
While both Funchess and Olsen are nominally faster than Kelvin, Benjamin appears to be unaffected by wearing equipment and plays as if he were in spandex, not clunky chain mail armor.
Hill's 4.3 speed is usually reserved for sub-6' WRs and to find it in one as massive as he is, is EXTREMELY rare.
Hill got a bad rap in NJ.
He was open a lot more often than people noticed, especially in the corner of the end zone a lot, where he was simply IGNORED by first Snatchez and then Smith.
HYATT™ doesn't pretend to understand the dynamics of what was transpiring between Hill and the NJ QBs, but it must have been ugly with both of them to refuse to look his way when he's such a big target and got open as often as he did.
HYATT™ picks up on that sorta stuff because he watches what's happening AWAY from the ball, a lot.
HYATT™;41098 said:
But even that is bias, because you dont know if Hill is running wide open while running the right or wrong route...but I agree, without knowing the dynamics between the QB and the WR, there is no way of knowing the true issues.
It only takes calling a play and looking that direction so many times and seeing the special kid run a go when he's supposed to run a 5 yard out before you stop wasting your time watching said special kid when you need to execute plays in under 3 seconds. Why spend any of those seconds when you never know if Hill is going where he is supposed to be.
Hill has been benched for his play...which I doubt he was benched, even when healthy, because he was running wide open.
Watching whats happening away from the ball and truly knowing what is happening away from the ball is two separate things...because there is no way of knowing what's going on without knowing the play call.
Cody Latimer - WR - Broncos
Cody Latimer believes he lost snaps to Andre Caldwell last season because he didn't know what he was doing on the field.
Latimer has vowed to not let that happen this year, immersing himself in Gary Kubiak's playbook and attending Peyton Manning's workouts at Duke. During OTAs and minicamp, Latimer ran with the first-stringers in place of unsigned franchise player Demaryius Thomas. As long as Latimer stays on course at training camp, he'll enter the season as the No. 3 wideout.
Cody Latimer believes he lost snaps to Andre Caldwell last season because he didn't know what he was doing on the field.
Latimer has vowed to not let that happen this year, immersing himself in Gary Kubiak's playbook and attending Peyton Manning's workouts at Duke. During OTAs and minicamp, Latimer ran with the first-stringers in place of unsigned franchise player Demaryius Thomas. As long as Latimer stays on course at training camp, he'll enter the season as the No. 3 wideout.
not that i want to bring back last year's draft and the jets failure to get a WR, but from a fantasy football perspective, i expect a number of these 2nd year WRs to have breakout years. evans and benjamin (and obvious beckham) had pretty big years last year and could have even better years this year. and now guys like adams, lattimer and bryant seemed poised to become solid contributors and guys i will be looking to add to my roster in the mid-to-late rounds.
HYATT™;41098 said:
I watch what's going on away from the ball, too. And I watched Hill getting owned by CB's covering him like a blanket half the time as he feebly waved his hand up in the air. "I'm open! I'm open!"
And believe me, I used to call for patience with this guy. The patience fizzled out. Looks like Tarzan, plays like Jane, as the old saying goes.
Definitely struggled vs press man coverage getting off the line. He was a very frustrating player to watch...even when the play went away from him. Seeing him sit there still at the line long after the pass had been thrown. I agree with this point...never played like he was 6'3.
Yeah, what a waists of a draft last year that we had. Fifteen plus WRs (give or take a few either way) that were true contributors last year and will be even better this year and we didn't manage to draft not one if them. NOT ONE! Thankfully we have some true threats this year and very legit guys worth drafting in FF like Marshall, Decker, D. Smith and Amaro. Only thing now is do we have a QB that can get them the ball to put up some worthy FF numbers. Hopefully so!