2015 Predictions for Ryan Fitzpatrick

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ucrenegade

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so I watched several plays of fitzpatrick last night when he was with the bills and the texans and here is my thought.

as a buffalo bill under gailey he had a swiss cheese oline he usually had about as much time or less than geno had last year to get rid of the ball. He does throw INT's because alot of the time fitzpatrick throws to where a wr shoiuld be and isn't. He will throw a lot of balls low so we need wr's with good hands who can scoop the ball. When he does rear back and let it zip the ball will be on target and the wr needs to be ready to catch a manning type pass.

He doesn't have a great arm motion throwing medium routes they come out funky and are not always spirals. He does have a very beautiful and accurate long ball though it won't be a favre long ball but he could easily cover 55-65 yards in the air and very accurate. I see kerley being used alot this year gaileys offense is actually very similar to what the pats run but instead of using the TE's gailey like to use the slot wr and get him into open space.

The other thing I really noticed is because he is smart he is very good at reading the coverage and audibling at the line. He or gailey are not afraid of going for it 2-3 times through the course of the game I saw no hesitation or let up at all with him or gaileys offense flat out 100 percent every snap from start to finish.

Fitzpatrick is most dangerous inside his own 5 yard line very rarely does he make a bad play or put his team in a bad position. The other thing I really like about fitzpatrick is he is one tough SOB.

He knows how to get down when he takes off on a run and doesn't try to force balls to wr's like i said alot of his int's are tipped passes or the ball is their but the wr is not.

Gaileys offense also needs a punishing bruiser rb similar to ivory in order to keep the defense honest, so those that think ivory doesn't fit are sorely mistaken in fact he had marshawn lynch in 2009 as his rb.

but he was most succesful in 2010 when he had a bruising rb paired with a speed back with good hands.

in texas he had a better oline but he still had issues with wr's not always being where the ball is.


so in short the reason i think he has been on many teams is because he is not a franchise QB and in the case of bengals he left because they finally got a franchise qb in dalton the bills were heavily vested in rob johnson and wanted to make him there franchise QB and honestly not sure what the hell the texans are thinking with the signing of hoyer and letting fitzy go.
 
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sg3

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Terrific post

Looking forward to Chan and Fitzpatrick leading our first effective offense in years
 

nyjvr6

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so I watched several plays of fitzpatrick last night when he was with the bills and the texans and here is my thought.

as a buffalo bill under gailey he had a swiss cheese oline he usually had about as much time or less than geno had last year to get rid of the ball. He does throw INT's because alot of the time fitzpatrick throws to where a wr shoiuld be and isn't. He will throw a lot of balls low so we need wr's with good hands who can scoop the ball. When he does rear back and let it zip the ball will be on target and the wr needs to be ready to catch a manning type pass.

He doesn't have a great arm motion throwing medium routes they come out funky and are not always spirals. He does have a very beautiful and accurate long ball though it won't be a favre long ball but he could easily cover 55-65 yards in the air and very accurate. I see kerley being used alot this year gaileys offense is actually very similar to what the pats run but instead of using the TE's gailey like to use the slot wr and get him into open space.

The other thing I really noticed is because he is smart he is very good at reading the coverage and audibling at the line. He or gailey are not afraid of going for it 2-3 times through the course of the game I saw no hesitation or let up at all with him or gaileys offense flat out 100 percent every snap from start to finish.

Fitzpatrick is most dangerous inside his own 5 yard line very rarely does he make a bad play or put his team in a bad position. The other thing I really like about fitzpatrick is he is one tough SOB.

He knows how to get down when he takes off on a run and doesn't try to force balls to wr's like i said alot of his int's are tipped passes or the ball is their but the wr is not.

Gaileys offense also needs a punishing bruiser rb similar to ivory in order to keep the defense honest, so those that think ivory doesn't fit are sorely mistaken in fact he had marshawn lynch in 2009 as his rb.

but he was most succesful in 2010 when he had a bruising rb paired with a speed back with good hands.

in texas he had a better oline but he still had issues with wr's not always being where the ball is.


so in short the reason i think he has been on many teams is because he is not a franchise QB and in the case of bengals he left because they finally got a franchise qb in dalton the bills were heavily vested in rob johnson and wanted to make him there franchise QB and honestly not sure what the hell the texans are thinking with the signing of hoyer and letting fitzy go.

How do you think his performance compared with his more recent systems. His numbers were pretty good with Houston. I understand he played out of his mind throwing 6 TD's in one of those games but he seemed to protect the ball better than he did with Buffalo. Do you think that is due to the system or just better more reliable receivers in Houston that will be where they are supposed to be? I think if the latter is the case then he could have similar success with Marshall/Decker/Kerely. And watching his pre game speech before he played the Bills last year I think it's safe to say he will have those games circled along with many of our teammates.
 
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I think three reasons he was better in houston and I could see him being close to that here.

the game he threw for 6 td's was after he was benched the previous few weeks to see what mallet had.

he came in and from then on was really good something like 10 td's to 2 int's but then he gets hurt.

the reason is 1 he was more experienced and mature than with buffalo, second like i mentioned buffalos oline despite gailey's offense was beyond bad, houstons was decent and gave him time.

third hopkins and andre johnson are prob the best 1-2 combo he has ever played with.

he had TO in buffalo but he had a case of the dropsies and was in decline.

for the point they are at in their careers at the time fitzpatrick was QB arian foster is better than marshawn was in buffalo again alot of that has to do with the oline also.

I think we will get a more polished QB who will thrive with decker and marshall.
 
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I think kerley could have his best year amaro will be good but gaileys lack of using a TE in his system much could hold him back from reaching the elite level.
 

nyjvr6

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I think we might be giving him an even better setup with Marshall/Decker so I'm pretty excited to see what he can do. If Gailey is as good at coaching to his players' strength we shouldn't be too worried about Amaro. He Excelled in the spread at Texas Tech and should get a spot in the slot on the majority of our snaps. Decker/Marshall on the outside (I know Marshall played a lot of slot last year) with Kerely and Amaro in the slot would be Fitzpatrick's best lineup. Maybe pick up a Petty or Grayson in the 3rd or so and groom them to take over for Fitz. I'm not ruling out Geno I just have little faith in him.


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I think we might be giving him an even better setup with Marshall/Decker so I'm pretty excited to see what he can do. If Gailey is as good at coaching to his players' strength we shouldn't be too worried about Amaro. He Excelled in the spread at Texas Tech and should get a spot in the slot on the majority of our snaps. Decker/Marshall on the outside (I know Marshall played a lot of slot last year) with Kerely and Amaro in the slot would be Fitzpatrick's best lineup. Maybe pick up a Petty or Grayson in the 3rd or so and groom them to take over for Fitz. I'm not ruling out Geno I just have little faith in him.


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you right but that is why i want dorsett in the second round imagine him and kerley as slot wr's then you will have lb's one on one against amaro and he is to fast for them.

then grayson or mannion in the 3rd to develop and abdulah or another speed backwith good hands in the 4th.
 

nyjvr6

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you right but that is why i want dorsett in the second round imagine him and kerley as slot wr's then you will have lb's one on one against amaro and he is to fast for them.

then grayson or mannion in the 3rd to develop and abdulah or another speed backwith good hands in the 4th.

I would be very happy with that. I know this is a little off topic but if you are going RB/WR/QB in late rounds does that mean you go OLB at 6 or trade down and possibly get some O line to give Fitz a little more time to make decisions?


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I would be very happy with that. I know this is a little off topic but if you are going RB/WR/QB in late rounds does that mean you go OLB at 6 or trade down and possibly get some O line to give Fitz a little more time to make decisions?


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my ideal scenario would be trade back to the 10-12 range pick up a extra 3rd or 4th for moving back and grabbing tre johnson with that extra pick to help with the oline then in the first grabbing dupree.
 

nyjvr6

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That would be a pretty good scenario. I would like an extra few picks to help out our Oline. If only we had those 12 picks this year.


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2015 Predictions for Ryan Fitzpatrick

My prediction for this season:

Fitz does well enough that G. Smith does not start again.

Jets finish 9/7, Fitz has 23 td's vs 11 int's

Possibly a wildcard spot, but not past that.

I'll take it...
 

usapaw

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Never sees the regular season... Just kidding (I hope). 3-1 at the break and then it is decision time.
 
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(and I beg the group's indulgence: no post-mortems on what GS may have done, there are other threads for that)
 
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My prediction for this season:

Fitz does well enough that G. Smith does not start again.

Jets finish 9/7, Fitz has 23 td's vs 11 int's

Possibly a wildcard spot, but not past that.

I'll take it...

If Fitz is 23-11 Jets will be a lot better then 9-7.

If Fitz plays the whole season, 10-6. if he's 23-11 12-4
 
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sg3

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11-5, maybe 12-4

We finally have a QB behind center for the first time since 2008
 

jets82

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11-5, maybe 12-4

We finally have a QB behind center for the first time since 2008

Lol, whatever! If we go 11-5 or 12-4 it won't be because of Fitz. It will strictly be because of the defense and running game. In this case Geno could of done the same damn thing. If were depending on Fitz for anymore then 5-6 games, I'd say 8-8 or 7-9. This could have been the same also if Geno hasn't improved but being that we don't know, WE DONT KNOW!
 

OCCH

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Lol, whatever! If we go 11-5 or 12-4 it won't be because of Fitz. It will strictly be because of the defense and running game. In this case Geno could of done the same damn thing. If were depending on Fitz for anymore then 5-6 games, I'd say 8-8 or 7-9. This could have been the same also if Geno hasn't improved but being that we don't know, WE DONT KNOW!

So you think Fitz isn't any better than last year's version of Geno?

I REALLY think you need to step off the ledge . . .
 

jets82

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So you think Fitz isn't any better than last year's version of Geno?

I REALLY think you need to step off the ledge . . .
Let me clarify and answer your question. Fitz is better then the Geno version of last year. Or atleast his stats would say so, I do agree. What I'm saying is with the weapons he has or would of had this year, I believe he would have had a better or just as good of a season as Fitz.

That's not asking alot or any kind of big accomplishment being that Fitz is mediocre at best. Being that he won't be playing well never know but let's not act like Fitz is a savor or anything. If thats what your thinking, you need to step off the ledge.

I thought I made it clear in my first post but I guess not.
 
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