All Things DARELLE REVIS

[Superman55]

Show me where he didn't. What, he lied about this? He didn't lie about his interest this year, did he?

As far as I can tell, he doesn't have a pattern of lying. But he's a bad person, for some unknown reason that you are incapable of providing.

And that's what it comes down to. I know you try your best to deflect from the point of the topic (interjecting emotion or another unrelated point of discussion) whenever you get flustered or don't have a real answer but I'm here to keep you focused.

Once again, what makes Revis a dirty person? This was your original assertion for which I have yet to get a response to.

Go ahead, think about it....waiting.

Do you have a quote from revis saying, "I want to return to the jets" from last year? Or do you believe it because Mehta told you so?

 

[grogan14]

Congratulations Jets fans Revis is the best in the game in my opinion.

 

[Elias]

Congratulations Jets fans Revis is the best in the game in my opinion.

Thanks. We are excited to have him. Feel dirty a bit but once the season starts that will be behind me!

 

[OCCH]

I don't think you can interject loyalty as a reason here. You know full well he tried to return after being traded to TB. Come on. He didn't ask to be traded. That's a poor example and one that suggests he's a bad person for not taking less money for his success and hard work that earned him a particular market value that other teams would pay for. This IS a business and I would be careful labeling someone as bad because they want more money.
Is that where we are as a society? Seriously?

You seem dead set on saying everyone needs to have an open mind towards Revis -- then telling us exactly what that open mind must be.

I'm not a Revis fan -- I'm a JETS fan. When he decides to hold out for a better contract MULTIPLE times, I understand that's in his best interests. But how can you POSSIBLY disagree that it hurt the team?

At the risk of sounding sarcastic, do you even know what loyalty means? What he did was the OPPOSITE of loyalty, and as a fan I have the right to dislike him because of it. There are plenty of players out there who don't have his mindset, and personally those are the ones I have more respect for, and enjoy rooting for.

No one is saying Revis didn't have the RIGHT to act the way he continually has since he entered the league -- it's just mind-boggling that you think everyone should be OK with it . . .

 

[Superman55]

Thanks. We are excited to have him. Feel dirty a bit but once the season starts that will be behind me!

Agreed, as long as he's healthy week 1...

 

[Jet Setter]

Do you have a quote from revis saying, "I want to return to the jets" from last year? Or do you believe it because Mehta told you so?

Yeah, based off of articles that spoke of the topic:

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/f...mits-wanted-ny-jets-reunion-article-1.1880245

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-thurs...00000411998/Revis-wanted-to-play-for-the-Jets

I believe he did want to return to NY last year. Why shouldn't we believe that? He came back this year. Again, can you prove otherwise?

And once again, will you continue avoiding my original question? Why should I believe that Revis is a bad or dirty person?

 

[Superman55]

You seem dead set on saying everyone needs to have an open mind towards Revis -- then telling us exactly what that open mind must be.

I'm not a Revis fan -- I'm a JETS fan. When he decides to hold out for a better contract MULTIPLE times, I understand that's in his best interests. But how can you POSSIBLY disagree that it hurt the team?

At the risk of sounding sarcastic, do you even know what loyalty means? What he did was the OPPOSITE of loyalty, and as a fan I have the right to dislike him because of it. There are plenty of players out there who don't have his mindset, and personally those are the ones I have more respect for, and enjoy rooting for.

No one is saying Revis didn't have the RIGHT to act the way he continually has since he entered the league -- it's just mind-boggling that you think everyone should be OK with it . . .

very well said.

:hand-clapping-smile

 

[Superman55]

Yeah, based off of articles that spoke of the topic:

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/f...mits-wanted-ny-jets-reunion-article-1.1880245

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-thurs...00000411998/Revis-wanted-to-play-for-the-Jets

I believe he did want to return to NY last year. Why shouldn't we believe that? He came back this year. Again, can you prove otherwise?

And once again, will you continue avoiding my original question? Why should I believe that Revis is a bad or dirty person?

I said it makes you feel dirty, or makes me feel dirty...go back and see if I said Revis is dirty (I didn't). But there are now about 6 posters who said the same thing and 1 (you) saying the other way.

And hey, Revis may have wanted to come back last year, to your point, he was open to coming back this year so why wouldnt he be open to it last year? One answer may be the men in charge last year were the ones that got rid of him and the ones in charge this year are not the ones who got rid of him...but like you dont know for sure if he would have come back under Idzik last year, I dont know if that was a factor...

 

[grogan14]

Thanks. We are excited to have him. Feel dirty a bit but once the season starts that will be behind me!

We fans mostly want to feel like the players playing for our team share our loyalty, some do to different degrees, others go for the very last dollar they can. It's a business to them, but I've learned over the years not to take it personally.

 

[Jet Setter]

You seem dead set on saying everyone needs to have an open mind towards Revis -- then telling us exactly what that open mind must be.

You're putting words in my mouth. I never said that. I asked why people perceive him as a bad person.

I'm not a Revis fan -- I'm a JETS fan. When he decides to hold out for a better contract MULTIPLE times, I understand that's in his best interests. But how can you POSSIBLY disagree that it hurt the team?

What are you talking about? He was traded. He didn't ask for one.

At the risk of sounding sarcastic, do you even know what loyalty means? What he did was the OPPOSITE of loyalty, and as a fan I have the right to dislike him because of it. There are plenty of players out there who don't have his mindset, and personally those are the ones I have more respect for, and enjoy rooting for.

Yes, do you? Does it mean he MUST take less money than he agrees to? Explain. BTW, he's back, isn't he? BTW, he called last year, didn't he?

No one is saying Revis didn't have the RIGHT to act the way he continually has since he entered the league -- it's just mind-boggling that you think everyone should be OK with it . . .

See the responses in bold print after each paragraph. I told no one how to think or act. I asked questions of a particular poster.

 

[Jet Setter]

I said it makes you feel dirty, or makes me feel dirty...go back and see if I said Revis is dirty (I didn't). But there are now about 6 posters who said the same thing and 1 (you) saying the other way.

And hey, Revis may have wanted to come back last year, to your point, he was open to coming back this year so why wouldnt he be open to it last year? One answer may be the men in charge last year were the ones that got rid of him and the ones in charge this year are not the ones who got rid of him...but like you dont know for sure if he would have come back under Idzik last year, I dont know if that was a factor...

Of course, no one knows for certain except those guys in charge.

I'll ask the question again as you clarified that you feel dirty about him - why is that?

I'm just trying to get to the root of this animosity towards a guy who has really done nothing wrong. Can someone demonstrate that he's a bad person, one that makes you feel dirty?

I think people in general should first feel happy for someone who gets rewarded for their hard work, dedication and commitment to their trade. Instead, we tend to break such people down. That's wrong.

 

[Jet Setter]

Thanks. We are excited to have him. Feel dirty a bit but once the season starts that will be behind me!

Why?

 

[OCCH]

See the responses in bold print after each paragraph. I told no one how to think or act. I asked questions of a particular poster.

If your questions were specific to Superman, then I apologize for interjecting. But since I share his point of view I saw no harm in doing so.

Apparently you don't remember Revis holding out as a rookie, then also holding out when the front-loaded part of the contract HE AGREED TO expired. If you think we wanted to trade Revis, I'm at a total loss of what to say. Right or wrong, we refused to give in to his demands and instead got the best price we could for him -- it could be argued his two-year hiatus resulted in Sheldon Richardson, so I'd say that's a decent ROI.

To be honest, I don't see why you're caught up on the idea that "he wanted to come back last year". EVERYONE knows that sentence ended with "for the right price", which is the ONLY reason he's here now. There's no way he's back in NY because he missed us. He's getting top dollar, and he'll play for it until he feels he deserves more, then the drama will ensue all over again. Hopefully he's satisfied with those first three years, and after that he can just walk away again as a lesser player than he is now.

Again, he's entitled to every last cent, and you're free to side with him. But the ONLY reason I'll root for him is because of the uniform he's wearing -- IMO he's done nothing to earn any respect/love beyond that . . .

 

[OCCH]

Of course, no one knows for certain except those guys in charge.

I'll ask the question again as you clarified that you feel dirty about him - why is that?

I'm just trying to get to the root of this animosity towards a guy who has really done nothing wrong. Can someone demonstrate that he's a bad person, one that makes you feel dirty?

I think people in general should first feel happy for someone who gets rewarded for their hard work, dedication and commitment to their trade. Instead, we tend to break such people down. That's wrong.

Asked and answered.

You may not agree with the answer, but please stop acting like you haven't been given one . . .

 

[Elias]

Why?

Because I hate the Pats and he won a championship with them. There's no rational thought behind it other than me being a crazy Jets fan. He had every right to play for the Pats but doesn't mean I have to like it. As a fan, we obviously expect the players to feel and act the same way we do but that's never the case. Which is why we are always sulking after a big loss while they go out partying.

 

[Superman55]

If your questions were specific to Superman, then I apologize for interjecting. But since I share his point of view I saw no harm in doing so.

Apparently you don't remember Revis holding out as a rookie, then also holding out when the front-loaded part of the contract HE AGREED TO expired. If you think we wanted to trade Revis, I'm at a total loss of what to say. Right or wrong, we refused to give in to his demands and instead got the best price we could for him -- it could be argued his two-year hiatus resulted in Sheldon Richardson, so I'd say that's a decent ROI.

To be honest, I don't see why you're caught up on the idea that "he wanted to come back last year". EVERYONE knows that sentence ended with "for the right price", which is the ONLY reason he's here now. There's no way he's back in NY because he missed us. He's getting top dollar, and he'll play for it until he feels he deserves more, then the drama will ensue all over again. Hopefully he's satisfied with those first three years, and after that he can just walk away again as a lesser player than he is now.

Again, he's entitled to every last cent, and you're free to side with him. But the ONLY reason I'll root for him is because of the uniform he's wearing -- IMO he's done nothing to earn any respect/love beyond that . . .

You forgot to mention his final hold out, that resulted in a trade, was after he just got paid $16 mill to not play the previous year after season ending injury and held the team hostage asking for more money when his value was at an all time low due to his knee surgery...super dirt bag move. he already got paid $16 mill to not play and then demanded more money knowing the jets couldn't trade him for his value...

 

[NCgreen12]

If we get Cromartie we will have completely revamped our CB position even with Milliner and McDougle on the roster. Difference between Idzik and Mac - Idzik was OK with bringing in players and hoping they bucked their trends of being unavailable because of injury. Mac has gone in a different direction albeit he's got last years model of what not to emulate. This should be a strong message to Milliner that he better come into camp in shape and that his role is probably a dime back which is one step from being inactive on Sundays.

 

[Jet Setter]

If your questions were specific to Superman, then I apologize for interjecting. But since I share his point of view I saw no harm in doing so.

Apparently you don't remember Revis holding out as a rookie, then also holding out when the front-loaded part of the contract HE AGREED TO expired. If you think we wanted to trade Revis, I'm at a total loss of what to say. Right or wrong, we refused to give in to his demands and instead got the best price we could for him -- it could be argued his two-year hiatus resulted in Sheldon Richardson, so I'd say that's a decent ROI.

To be honest, I don't see why you're caught up on the idea that "he wanted to come back last year". EVERYONE knows that sentence ended with "for the right price", which is the ONLY reason he's here now. There's no way he's back in NY because he missed us. He's getting top dollar, and he'll play for it until he feels he deserves more, then the drama will ensue all over again. Hopefully he's satisfied with those first three years, and after that he can just walk away again as a lesser player than he is now.

Again, he's entitled to every last cent, and you're free to side with him. But the ONLY reason I'll root for him is because of the uniform he's wearing -- IMO he's done nothing to earn any respect/love beyond that . . .

I don't know what "the right price" means. I hope you're not suggesting he's unique in such an approach. This isn't a public service. Of course at the right price. Why is he castigated for this? You seem to have an axe to grind due to his holdout. That's your choice.

Again, I don't insist that you or anyone love him. I couldn't care less. I am just interested in why posters insist that he's a bad person in some way. If you read my posts, you'll see I'm consistent in asking this.

 

[OCCH]

Because I hate the Pats and he won a championship with them. There's no rational thought behind it other than me being a crazy Jets fan. He had every right to play for the Pats but doesn't mean I have to like it. As a fan, we obviously expect the players to feel and act the same way we do but that's never the case. Which is why we are always sulking after a big loss while they go out partying.

Well said.

My disdain for the guy goes back to before we even traded him, but that SB was a VERY bitter pill to swallow.

And great job acknowledging that there's no rational thought behind the sentiment -- it's amazing what this game can do to a person!!!

 

[Jet Setter]

You forgot to mention his final hold out, that resulted in a trade, was after he just got paid $16 mill to not play the previous year after season ending injury and held the team hostage asking for more money when his value was at an all time low due to his knee surgery...super dirt bag move. he already got paid $16 mill to not play and then demanded more money knowing the jets couldn't trade him for his value...

Oh my, he asked for money! How dare he! Do you even listen to yourself? My goodness. You make it seem as though he had no right since he got hurt. What world do you actually live in? What, he should curl up in the fetal position and ask to play for peanuts? Would that serve your sensibilities? Good grief. The spite and jealousy abounds. My, my, my...