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OCCH

Pro Bowl 1st Team
Jet Fanatics
I don't know what "the right price" means. I hope you're not suggesting he's unique in such an approach. This isn't a public service. Of course at the right price. Why is he castigated for this? You seem to have an axe to grind due to his holdout. That's your choice.

Again, I don't insist that you or anyone love him. I couldn't care less. I am just interested in why posters insist that he's a bad person in some way. If you read my posts, you'll see I'm consistent in asking this.

And you'll see I'm consistent in explaining my disdain.

But I'm more than happy to "agree to disagree" and look forward to rooting for the jersey right along side you come September . . .
 
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Jet Setter

Guest
Because I hate the Pats and he won a championship with them. There's no rational thought behind it other than me being a crazy Jets fan. He had every right to play for the Pats but doesn't mean I have to like it. As a fan, we obviously expect the players to feel and act the same way we do but that's never the case. Which is why we are always sulking after a big loss while they go out partying.

From a leverage perspective, I'm surprised that more free agents don't pit themselves between two divisional rivals as Revis did, twice. I can't recall that happening very often. It's smart.
 

Superman55

Franchise Tagged
Jet Fanatics
Oh my, he asked for money! How dare he! Do you even listen to yourself? My goodness. You make it seem as though he had no right since he got hurt. What world do you actually live in? What, he should curl up in the fetal position and ask to play for peanuts? Would that serve your sensibilities? Good grief. The spite and jealousy abounds. My, my, my...

hahahahaha, just to show you how bias you are, in case it wasnt obvious, he made $16 mill to do nothing, and was going to make another $8 mill to work, and your response to a guy making $24 mill in 2 years to play a game is, "should curl up in the fetal position and ask to play for peanuts?" hahahahahaha, fans.
 
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Jet Setter

Guest
hahahahaha, just to show you how bias you are, in case it wasnt obvious, he made $16 mill to do nothing, and was going to make another $8 mill to work, and your response to a guy making $24 mill in 2 years to play a game is, "should curl up in the fetal position and ask to play for peanuts?" hahahahahaha, fans.

Hahaha. I guess in your world, he should be forced to give it back, right? Hahaha. That's why players sign for guaranteed money if they have the leverage. Hahaha.

How am I biased? What does that even mean? If anyone is, I'd say you're biased by your animosity towards Revis. I'm merely pointing out the obvious jealousy you demonstrate towards him. Ahh, but this is just another way for you to distract from the point. You have trouble with the truth, don't you? Seems to be your kryptonite.
 
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ucrenegade

Guest
Of course, no one knows for certain except those guys in charge.

I'll ask the question again as you clarified that you feel dirty about him - why is that?

I'm just trying to get to the root of this animosity towards a guy who has really done nothing wrong. Can someone demonstrate that he's a bad person, one that makes you feel dirty?

I think people in general should first feel happy for someone who gets rewarded for their hard work, dedication and commitment to their trade. Instead, we tend to break such people down. That's wrong.

greed plain and simple i can see wanting to get money but when you complain you can't feed your family on millions of dollars and you need more that is a disgraceful and ugly person in my eyes............esp when you consider people working 9-5 just to try and survive or the homeless on the street corner.
 

Green73

Prospect
Jet Fanatics
As a fan its frustrating when one of your favorite players hold out.
He held out out as a rookie, then again after that and then again after that only 2 years into his contract.
But the NFL did it to themselves with the non guaranteed contracts.
Its a short career, some shorter than others... he's the best at his position, he's a pro on the field and little to no off field issues.
Why shouldn't he get paid while he can? He has produced at a top level and has made those around him better
(isn't that what this country was founded on?), the only blemish is his holding out in the middle of his contracts.

The way this contract is structured I don't see him holding out till 2018 (though I could see him starting his shenanigans in 2017).
Now, I believe in loyalty almost to a fault but if his game slips or he gets injured they'll ship his ass out anyway (so much for loyalty) it is a business.

In my opinion this deal is good for all three parties, us fans being the third.
 

jetfandreamer

Jets Groupie
Jet Fanatics
greed plain and simple i can see wanting to get money but when you complain you can't feed your family on millions of dollars and you need more that is a disgraceful and ugly person in my eyes............esp when you consider people working 9-5 just to try and survive or the homeless on the street corner.

I root for the uniform..and want to upgrade the talent base..he does that end of story for me...for a fan base that hasnt won a SB in 46 years...we want to win..but I dont think we can dictate the "quality" of people we want to win with....
 
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ucrenegade

Guest
I root for the uniform..and want to upgrade the talent base..he does that end of story for me...for a fan base that hasnt won a SB in 46 years...we want to win..but I dont think we can dictate the "quality" of people we want to win with....

which is why as a player he is fine but as a man i will not ever root for him.......I will root for the team but never for him as a man he is a despicable greedy ass.
 

jetfandreamer

Jets Groupie
Jet Fanatics
As a fan its frustrating when one of your favorite players hold out.
He held out out as a rookie, then again after that and then again after that only 2 years into his contract.
But the NFL did it to themselves with the non guaranteed contracts.
Its a short career, some shorter than others... he's the best at his position, he's a pro on the field and little to no off field issues.
Why shouldn't he get paid while he can? He has produced at a top level and has made those around him better
(isn't that what this country was founded on?), the only blemish is his holding out in the middle of his contracts.

The way this contract is structured I don't see him holding out till 2018 (though I could see him starting his shenanigans in 2017).
Now, I believe in loyalty almost to a fault but if his game slips or he gets injured they'll ship his ass out anyway (so much for loyalty) it is a business.

In my opinion this deal is good for all three parties, us fans being the third.

The key word you used is FRUSTRATING.....you cant take it personal...it is just business.....no one knows really where he came from and the situation he had growing up....hes a great player...works hard..studies hard....is not a guy in the news for legal stuff off field.....
 
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Jet Setter

Guest
greed plain and simple i can see wanting to get money but when you complain you can't feed your family on millions of dollars and you need more that is a disgraceful and ugly person in my eyes............esp when you consider people working 9-5 just to try and survive or the homeless on the street corner.

Ahh, yes. Greed. Jealousy towards the rich. I know that well. You must be a liberal, no? You've been taught that rich people are evil, that those who ask for more money are greedy. Don't they have enough already? No matter. Conservatives alike tend to gravitate towards this mantra as well. At least you are forthcoming with your feelings on the matter.

Now, you are pouring your sensibilities onto Revis. Now you are going to decide what he does with his money next, right? He should feed the homeless. He should think about the average Joe.

As far as I can tell, I haven't seen Revis state anything of the sort that you are spewing here regarding his complaining about feeding his family. I think it's unfair of you to do so.

I could easily argue that he is taking tremendous risk playing such a dangerous game but that's a boring predictable path towards comments such as "he knows what he's getting into" and such. The bottom line is he is taking full advantage of a small window of opportunity to receive as much as the market dictates he is worth and it could all end the 1st snap of the season. It's a matter of simple economics. The world is uncertain. We have seen countless millionaires lose everything in an instant. To castigate someone for trying to receive his true worth is wrong. It's fundamentally wrong. It's sheer jealousy and resentment towards the success of others. For some reason this has been taught to Americans and hammered into our culture through media portrayal and of course, movies.
 
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Jet Setter

Guest
The key word you used is FRUSTRATING.....you cant take it personal...it is just business.....no one knows really where he came from and the situation he had growing up....hes a great player...works hard..studies hard....is not a guy in the news for legal stuff off field.....

Yet not a single Jet poster on this site is happy for him. It's telling as a society.
 

hobson54

Transition Tagged
Jet Fanatics
to us fans, this is a game, a form of entertainment, a recreational activity. to the players, it is a business, their profession. now i may not have always agreed to the way revis conducted his contractual business, and i certainly am no fan of his militant uncle sean. but again, it's their business and livelihood.

i was always a revis fan as a jet and am glad he's back. he makes the team significantly better, and while he's getting paid a lot, the contract isn't an outrageous one. he's making more or less the same as the other top CBs in the league. and he's earned that distinction of being called one of, if not the, best CBs in the league.

he's been a great player on the field, is known to work hard in the classroom and work with younger players, and he's never had any (non-contract) off-field issues. he's a pros pro and still playing at a top level (all-pro CB last year for the 4th time).

i won't begrudge a player going to NE to play for a chance to win. if any of us were in that position, would you not do the same? would you turn down a big paycheck for a 1-year chance to compete for a super bowl?

so welcome back revis island. now let's go get that ring (or rings) with the jets and enter the hall of fame in green and white.
 

NickSINYC

Veteran
Jet Fanatics
Yet not a single Jet poster on this site is happy for him. It's telling as a society.

You defend him like he is a family member. He left a bad taste in a lot of peoples mouths with his hold outs. He could make 10 times what he did I would.t care it's not about jealousy it is about him signing contracts and not wanting to honor them.
 
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Jet Setter

Guest
You defend him like he is a family member. He left a bad taste in a lot of peoples mouths with his hold outs. He could make 10 times what he did I would.t care it's not about jealousy it is about him signing contracts and not wanting to honor them.

No, you bring in emotion and distraction to somehow downplay my points. I'm about the truth, okay? He's not a family member and I actually hoped the Jets took Culliver - see all my posts to verify. I wanted Culliver and more space to get more players. I should NOT have to verify my position to make a point here. Would you agree?
Based on the comments, I'd like to know how you could argue it wasn't about jealousy? Please read the posts and feel free to get back to me.
 
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ucrenegade

Guest
Ahh, yes. Greed. Jealousy towards the rich. I know that well. You must be a liberal, no? You've been taught that rich people are evil, that those who ask for more money are greedy. Don't they have enough already? No matter. Conservatives alike tend to gravitate towards this mantra as well. At least you are forthcoming with your feelings on the matter.

Now, you are pouring your sensibilities onto Revis. Now you are going to decide what he does with his money next, right? He should feed the homeless. He should think about the average Joe.

As far as I can tell, I haven't seen Revis state anything of the sort that you are spewing here regarding his complaining about feeding his family. I think it's unfair of you to do so.

I could easily argue that he is taking tremendous risk playing such a dangerous game but that's a boring predictable path towards comments such as "he knows what he's getting into" and such. The bottom line is he is taking full advantage of a small window of opportunity to receive as much as the market dictates he is worth and it could all end the 1st snap of the season. It's a matter of simple economics. The world is uncertain. We have seen countless millionaires lose everything in an instant. To castigate someone for trying to receive his true worth is wrong. It's fundamentally wrong. It's sheer jealousy and resentment towards the success of others. For some reason this has been taught to Americans and hammered into our culture through media portrayal and of course, movies.


actually i have no issue with rich people until they say that they need more after already having millions.

He did say that about his family in either the first or second contract hold-out I forget which one.

Being a millionaire or billionaire is fine but when you have 20 m and you say you want 40 that is redoncoulus and i stand by what i said he is a despicable greedy ass.
 
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Jet Setter

Guest
actually i have no issue with rich people until they say that they need more after already having millions.

He did say that about his family in either the first or second contract hold-out I forget which one.

Being a millionaire or billionaire is fine but when you have 20 m and you say you want 40 that is redoncoulus and i stand by what i said he is a despicable greedy ass.

So it's conditional based on your sensibilities. I was right the first time. Very well. Continue being resentful.
 
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ucrenegade

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So it's conditional based on your sensibilities. I was right the first time. Very well. Continue being resentful.

yes maybe watching my family bust their ass in factories for 10/hr is some of the reason but the other part is i believe in their being a certain point where you should not complain about not having money esp when many people live paychk to paychk.
 
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Jet Setter

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yes maybe watching my family bust their ass in factories for 10/hr is some of the reason but the other part is i believe in their being a certain point where you should not complain about not having money esp when many people live paychk to paychk.

And this is Revis' fault? I guess no one should be able to ask for more money in your world.
 
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ucrenegade

Guest
And this is Revis' fault? I guess no one should be able to ask for more money in your world.

no like i said i believe their comes a certain point where if you complain about money it is greed nothing else.

for example the people that own walmart and most ceo's i despise esp people on wall street that rob us blind but never get in trouble.
 
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